Who Are We Really Saving

[Alberta Patriot]

Sage Wisdom from one of our own in these very disturbing times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzxmmNDKO4

[Jersey mike]

That was a very good, well spoken video. It's not easy having elderly loved ones to care for and worry about especially since there are many out there who have become somewhat elderly themselves.

This virus appears to attack the weakest the hardest, mostly the middle aged to elderly and especially those with underlying conditions. From reading just this forum over the years this seems to be a majority of the people here.

Myself, I'm 55, smoke and surely have some respiratory issues from it, but I haven't been to a doctor in years from being sick with a cold or flu.

My wife is a couple years younger and has high blood pressure issues and is on medication.

We have 3 children ages 23-19, a son and 2 daughters. My 22 year old daughter has an immune issue and occasional asthma and my 19 year old daughter also has occasional asthma and has had pneumonia at least 5 times both girls seem to get sick at the drop of a hat.

I have a 40 y/o niece with an autoimmune issue.

My brother is 64. My dad is well into his 80's and my father-in-law is well into his 70's.

So I have skin in this game. I'm invested emotionally as well as physically. I don't want to see anything happen to anyone in my family. Living life is more than running and hiding in hopes to fight again another day. This virus cannot be the determining factor on how life is lived, this is not a horror movie with people dying in the streets and decomposing in their homes. Taking precautions is one thing and those precautions are individually based, not one size fits all.

[carolinarider09]

That was a very good, well spoken video. It's not easy having elderly loved ones to care for and worry about especially since there are many out there who have become somewhat elderly themselves.

This virus appears to attack the weakest the hardest, mostly the middle aged to elderly and especially those with underlying conditions. From reading just this forum over the years this seems to be a majority of the people here.

Myself, I'm 55, smoke and surely have some respiratory issues from it, but I haven't been to a doctor in years from being sick with a cold or flu.

My wife is a couple years younger and has high blood pressure issues and is on medication.

We have 3 children ages 23-19, a son and 2 daughters. My 22 year old daughter has an immune issue and occasional asthma and my 19 year old daughter also has occasional asthma and has had pneumonia at least 5 times both girls seem to get sick at the drop of a hat.

I have a 40 y/o niece with an autoimmune issue.

My brother is 64. My dad is well into his 80's and my father-in-law is well into his 70's.

So I have skin in this game. I'm invested emotionally as well as physically. I don't want to see anything happen to anyone in my family. Living life is more than running and hiding in hopes to fight again another day. This virus cannot be the determining factor on how life is lived, this is not a horror movie with people dying in the streets and decomposing in their homes. Taking precautions is one thing and those precautions are individually based, not one size fits all.

Well said!

[shortleg]

  I have gotten alot of stuff for saying maybe we should have done it like Sweden did it.
What they did was protect the vulnerable as in the elderly and they didnot close down the
the country at all
   They called it the Heard something or other and I just saw where they lost a total
of 300 people. Now I would not like to be one of the 300 but that is a low number.
  The big mistakes we made appear to be managing the elderly totally wrong.
New York just said that 60 percent of their new deaths were people that stayed at home.
   Go figure   

[Valkorado]

3,040 deaths in Sweden as of today.

Unfortunately if we'd done it like Sweden did it, we'd have still lost more than 3,040 people.  

But ya they're doing well.  Us, not so much.

[Robert]

Yes a very good video and reaffirms my stated position which is a comfort for me. With a new Covid virus looming in the wild, one that was a mutation from this current one, I wonder what will the response be now. No vaccine will stop this one more than likely, since the vaccine developed for the original Covid 19 is not really even out there.

My real hope is like the lady in Texas that owns a hair salon and arrested for opening her buisness more would follow this behaviour. We are ultimatly responsible for our health and well being and no goverment can or ever has been able to assure eveyone of their saftey.

Goverment should provide a base ground rules for safety and give those who need to live the best chance possible to survive.

Like vitamins for the body, should be the laws and goverment for people. When you get into medicine there are always side affects, just like to much control in goverment. Vitamins give the body everything it needs to survive and allows it as much possible good nutrition as possible so the body itself can pick and choose its own nutrients. Once sick the body can no longer heal itself and drugs are needed, so it is with our society today.

But maybe its actually the goverment that is making us sick, wrong nutrients can kill the body so it is with goverment.

In NY the worst in terms of the break out and some say now the origin of the US breakout of the virus have praised a law and even applauded and celibrated this law that endorses the killing of babies, but has said we need to quarentine to save lives. This is evidence  of the insanity in goverment especially after the one life speech was given to justify the lock down, it shows the depravity of those in goverment.

[98valk]

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,295,058

Recovered:
217,292


1,077766 never got sick needing hospital care.

[Willow]

3,040 deaths in Sweden as of today.

Unfortunately if we'd done it like Sweden did it, we'd have still lost more than 3,040 people.  

But ya they're doing well.  Us, not so much.

Yes, the report is a little over 3,000 deaths in Sweden.  We would have more than that as our population is much larger than Sweden's population.

What's notable is that there are six European countries reporting a higher number of deaths per million than Sweden.  These nations did hard lock downs.  The USA shows a lower deaths per million than Sweden but the question remains as to whether our measures have avoided deaths or only delayed them.

A look at the numbers tells us that Sweden is not worse off than its neighbors and time will tell us whether Sweden's approach was as good as other's regarding COVID-19 deaths.  We already know it was less damaging to the culture and economy.

[Patrick]

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,295,058

Recovered:
217,292


1,077766 never got sick needing hospital care.

???????

More got sick than not ????    I don't think so.

[Valkorado]

3,040 deaths in Sweden as of today.

Unfortunately if we'd done it like Sweden did it, we'd have still lost more than 3,040 people.  

But ya they're doing well.  Us, not so much.

Yes, the report is a little over 3,000 deaths in Sweden.  We would have more than that as our population is much larger than Sweden's population.

What's notable is that there are six European countries reporting a higher number of deaths per million than Sweden.  These nations did hard lock downs.  The USA shows a lower deaths per million than Sweden but the question remains as to whether our measures have avoided deaths or only delayed them.

A look at the numbers tells us that Sweden is not worse off than its neighbors and time will tell us whether Sweden's approach was as good as other's regarding COVID-19 deaths.  We already know it was less damaging to the culture and economy.

Ya, I knew the nation's populations.  And I wasn't speaking of lockdown specifically. I was making an observation about the 300 deaths figure.  

It's a new virus.  It's caused issues everywhere it's visited.  The United States is certainly no exception.

And, again, I don't favor mandated lockdown.  I do think the initial stay at home orders served their purpose.  

Does that mean I'll only post C-19 articles that are sunshine and lollipops?  Probably not.