Gone like a fart in the wind

[shadowsoftime]

   LOL, knew it would be history  LOL

[Robert]

 

[Chrisj CMA]

I knew something was up. I got a weird screen that said I no longer could access that thread. Lol. What thread?

[Bret SD]

Reminds me of when I was a kid, there was a mailbox full of wasps on a semi abandoned house, so I took a badminton racket and pounded on the mailbox, as the Wasps flew out I nailed'em with the racket until one of them stung me..
Then I had to Boogie out of there, stupid kid tricks  

[Alien]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again. 

Alien

[The emperor has no clothes]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again.

Alien

(and again) 

[Wizzard]

Everytime I read that thread over this last 2 days all I could think about is Tbird laying in the hospital waiting to either get a heart or die. Was hard for me to take the thread serious in light of the event.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Everytime I read that thread over this last 2 days all I could think about is Tbird laying in the hospital waiting to either get a heart or die. Was hard for me to take the thread serious in light of the event.

I think they are talking about a thread from this morning. But, I completely understand your thoughts. It's been a very sad event. 

[Bret SD]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again. 

Alien

Why not talk about democrat policy? And how it will be good for U.S.?

Folks on the left are largely Borg, spewing talking points with no meat.. you're a smart and articulate guy, so why not shelve the Trump hate and lay out your vision for the future?
I'd seriously like to know, convince people with that.. if you can. Otherwise you're venting Trump hate here is just that, venting and emotion.. so please, show how Biden will make America great. I'll listen to that, otherwise you're going to burn yourself out here for no good reason, and nobody's gonna take you seriously again.

[G-Man]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again. 

Alien

Why not talk about democrat policy? And how it will be good for U.S.?

Folks on the left are largely Borg, spewing talking points with no meat.. you're a smart and articulate guy, so why not shelve the Trump hate and lay out your vision for the future?
I'd seriously like to know, convince people with that.. if you can. Otherwise you're venting Trump hate here is just that, venting and emotion.. so please, show how Biden will make America great. I'll listen to that, otherwise you're going to burn yourself out here for no good reason, and nobody's gonna take you seriously again.

He's hated the President of the United States since the 1980's.  That's around 4 decades of hate to overcome. 

I must admit, I knew nothing about almost ALL presidential candidates about a year before any of their elections.  I never had a chance to hate any of them.  Disagree with, of course, but never hated them.  Since then I have grown to dispise several of them, but not enough to post "I Hate _____ " over and over and over again.  And one of them is a practically convicted pedophile and his wife a corrupt politician and another ruined race relations for a couple generations, you know, being the post-racial president he intended to be.

[Willow]

I won't get into a debate over why a thread (or post) was locked or removed.

I will give a short explanation this once.  The original post of the thread appeared to be posted with the intent of stirring crap.  The thread rather quickly developed into pissing contests and exchanged personal attacks.  I could have taken a bunch of time going through and removing the attacks and quotes or I could have simply locked the thread.  I chose to remove the thread as I couldn't see any good purpose remaining.  

[Wizzard]

I won't get into a debate over why a thread (or post) was locked or removed.

I will give a short explanation this once.  The original post of the thread appeared to be posted with the intent of stirring crap.  The thread rather quickly developed into pissing contests and exchanged personal attacks.  I could have taken a bunch of time going through and removing the attacks and quotes or I could have simply locked the thread.  I chose to remove the thread as I couldn't see any good purpose remaining.  

[f6john]

I won't get into a debate over why a thread (or post) was locked or removed.

I will give a short explanation this once.  The original post of the thread appeared to be posted with the intent of stirring crap.  The thread rather quickly developed into pissing contests and exchanged personal attacks.  I could have taken a bunch of time going through and removing the attacks and quotes or I could have simply locked the thread.  I chose to remove the thread as I couldn't see any good purpose remaining.  

Bravo! Not that I needed an explanation.

[cookiedough]

I thought the heading was he sold all his guns he got or sold his Valk....

[..]

   LOL, knew it would be history  LOL

As one fades away another gets released. That too will fade away,

[Serk]

I really hate it when I'm riding and I fart, thinking it'll be a fart in the wind, but it gets trapped, and I hafta wiggle back and forth to try to work it out until it finally works its' way out, then I gotta worry oh no, was that a fart plus?!?!?!

Yeah.... I voted for Bill Clinton too...

Kinda felt the same way in hindsight...

[The emperor has no clothes]

I really hate it when I'm riding and I fart, thinking it'll be a fart in the wind, but it gets trapped, and I hafta wiggle back and forth to try to work it out until it finally works its' way out, then I gotta worry oh no, was that a fart plus?!?!?!

Yeah.... I voted for Bill Clinton too...

Kinda felt the same way in hindsight...

TMI

[..]

Another was released and disappeared almost instantly   

[The emperor has no clothes]

The ignore function works pretty good.

[Serk]

The ignore function works pretty good.

Works pretty well, not good.....

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/good-well/#:~:text=The%20rule%20of%20thumb%20is,be%20used%20as%20an%20adjective.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The ignore function works pretty good.

Works pretty well, not good.....

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/good-well/#:~:text=The%20rule%20of%20thumb%20is,be%20used%20as%20an%20adjective.

I stand corrected

[Serk]

The ignore function works pretty good.

Works pretty well, not good.....

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/good-well/#:~:text=The%20rule%20of%20thumb%20is,be%20used%20as%20an%20adjective.

I stand corrected

Mr. Yankovic could have helped you avoid this......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

[The emperor has no clothes]

The ignore function works pretty good.

Works pretty well, not good.....

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/good-well/#:~:text=The%20rule%20of%20thumb%20is,be%20used%20as%20an%20adjective.

I stand corrected

Mr. Yankovic could have helped you avoid this......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

English, grammar, etc. is not my forte. I bow to you. 

[DirtyDan]

  Serk

Always liked weird Al

Dan

[Serk]

Serk

Always liked weird Al

Dan

Good taste sir!

The day before Kali turned 9 (You met her in Taos) she went to her first concert.... Weird Al! She's been to 3 Weird Al concerts total now (And 3 Slayer concerts as well, but that's a whole other thing.....)

[Rams]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again. 

Alien

Why not talk about democrat policy? And how it will be good for U.S.?

Folks on the left are largely Borg, spewing talking points with no meat.. you're a smart and articulate guy, so why not shelve the Trump hate and lay out your vision for the future?
I'd seriously like to know, convince people with that.. if you can. Otherwise you're venting Trump hate here is just that, venting and emotion.. so please, show how Biden will make America great. I'll listen to that, otherwise you're going to burn yourself out here for no good reason, and nobody's gonna take you seriously again.

I'm still looking for a response to this request.   I agree, show me a greater America through the Democrat Party Platform, show me how Candidate Biden and Senator Harris along with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer are going to make America a greater nation. 

Give us enough good reasons to change our right leaning minds. 

Rams 

[Alien]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again.  

Alien

Why not talk about democrat policy? And how it will be good for U.S.?

Folks on the left are largely Borg, spewing talking points with no meat.. you're a smart and articulate guy, so why not shelve the Trump hate and lay out your vision for the future?
I'd seriously like to know, convince people with that.. if you can. Otherwise you're venting Trump hate here is just that, venting and emotion.. so please, show how Biden will make America great. I'll listen to that, otherwise you're going to burn yourself out here for no good reason, and nobody's gonna take you seriously again.

I'm still looking for a response to this request.   I agree, show me a greater America through the Democrat Party Platform, show me how Candidate Biden and Senator Harris along with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer are going to make America a greater nation.  

Give us enough good reasons to change our right leaning minds.  

Rams  

Ok, I'll take a crack at answering your question.  First, please understand that I do not agree with the Democrats on every issue, nor do I disagree with the Republicans on every issue.  I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until the second year of President Trump's term, when I felt that the Republican party was no longer aligned with my views.  Neither are the democrats, but they're closer.

While I feel that the economy is important, I don't feel that it is the MOST important of the issues facing Americans.  Rather, I think that the wellbeing of the people is the primary issue.

I believe that Biden will tone down the divisive rhetoric that is fueling the rage in our country right now, before it's too late.  I think his victory would give everyone a chance to take a step back and reset.  I believe that this is important as I see us reaching a boiling point that we might not ever be able to come back from.

Biden will raise our taxes to pay for social programs that will help those less fortunate.  While that may be somewhat unpleasant in the short term, taking care of our own will have long term benefits.  I believe that Biden will create more opportunities for the disadvantaged among us to rise to a position where they are no longer dependent on social programs and that those people, upon achieving success, will give back by helping someone else.

Finally, I believe that Biden will be more "Presidential" and less like an angry union rep.  Regardless of how you feel personally, please realize that the temperment of our leader is very important to a lot of people, including me.  We care about how we look to the world and we want to be represented by someone that also cares.

Look, boiled down to the essence, it's this:  Republicans believe that the answer to all problems is a booming economy.  Democrats believe that taking care of people will solve all problems.  They are both right...and both wrong.  Somewhere in the middle, lies the truth.  I care about people more than money, so I will support Biden.

[Valkorado]

I guess that's what happens when you don't toe the line.  Lesson learned.  I'll be a good boy now.

Trump 2020.  Make America Great Again.  

Alien

Why not talk about democrat policy? And how it will be good for U.S.?

Folks on the left are largely Borg, spewing talking points with no meat.. you're a smart and articulate guy, so why not shelve the Trump hate and lay out your vision for the future?
I'd seriously like to know, convince people with that.. if you can. Otherwise you're venting Trump hate here is just that, venting and emotion.. so please, show how Biden will make America great. I'll listen to that, otherwise you're going to burn yourself out here for no good reason, and nobody's gonna take you seriously again.

I'm still looking for a response to this request.   I agree, show me a greater America through the Democrat Party Platform, show me how Candidate Biden and Senator Harris along with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer are going to make America a greater nation.  

Give us enough good reasons to change our right leaning minds.  

Rams  

Ok, I'll take a crack at answering your question.  First, please understand that I do not agree with the Democrats on every issue, nor do I disagree with the Republicans on every issue.  I was a registered Republican from my 18th birthday until the second year of President Trump's term, when I felt that the Republican party was no longer aligned with my views.  Neither are the democrats, but they're closer.

While I feel that the economy is important, I don't feel that it is the MOST important of the issues facing Americans.  Rather, I think that the wellbeing of the people is the primary issue.

I believe that Biden will tone down the divisive rhetoric that is fueling the rage in our country right now, before it's too late.  I think his victory would give everyone a chance to take a step back and reset.  I believe that this is important as I see us reaching a boiling point that we might not ever be able to come back from.

Biden will raise our taxes to pay for social programs that will help those less fortunate.  While that may be somewhat unpleasant in the short term, taking care of our own will have long term benefits.  I believe that Biden will create more opportunities for the disadvantaged among us to rise to a position where they are no longer dependent on social programs and that those people, upon achieving success, will give back by helping someone else.

Finally, I believe that Biden will be more "Presidential" and less like an angry union rep.  Regardless of how you feel personally, please realize that the temperment of our leader is very important to a lot of people, including me.  We care about how we look to the world and we want to be represented by someone that also cares.

Look, boiled down to the essence, it's this:  Republicans believe that the answer to all problems is a booming economy.  Democrats believe that taking care of people will solve all problems.  They are both right...and both wrong.  Somewhere in the middle, lies the truth.  I care about people more than money, so I will support Biden.

If I remember, Round 1 of the current "rage" match started because of the George Floyd shooting.  Yeah, there were others, Brianna Taylor, etc.  But these riots came about because of perceived police brutality, not because of the President's actions or rhetoric.  I'd say that no matter who was in the office.

If you believe good ol' Joe is going to calm the waters of racial division with happy talk and welfare (or should I say "social programs"?) I've got some ocean front property here in Colorado...

[Chrisj CMA]

I don't have a problem with smart social programs. However, if we were being smart with social programs now we wouldn't have to raise taxes to do some real good. We're not doing it smartly now, and the left plans to go farther down the not smart road. Insanity is continuing what you are doing and expecting different results

[Alien]

I don't disagree.  It's the lesser of two evils at this point.  I wish that there was a viable third party candidate that could competently represent the center.

[shadowsoftime]

Without a good economy where is the money gonna come from for social assist.
Great economy all else follows.

[Rams]

A strong economy is what drives this nation and allows people to be employed.   With every dollar we spend on handouts, more money is printed and the bucks in your and my pocket are worth less.
Taking care of our economy is taking care of this nation's people.

I guess I see the "Social Entitlement" problem differently.
IMHO, we waste a whole lot of money on people milking the system.   I have people in my own distant family who have been milking the system for generations.   As long as there is free money to be had, I assure you, they and those like them will go for it.   Working for a living is an alien concept to them.  No pun intended.

Now, if we take some of the "Social Entitlement" money and put it into limited Job/Skill training that will put people back to work with less incentive to milk the system, then I might be more supportive.

Unless Biden gives away the "world" and sacrifices the police and their authority to enforce the law, the current situation will not go away.   On this, I whole heartedly agree with the President.

But, I'm still listening/reading, I'm trying to be open minded but your reasons are not moving my opinion up to this point.

Rams

[shadowsoftime]

A strong economy is what drives this nation and allows people to be employed.   With every dollar we spend on handouts, more money is printed and the bucks in your and my pocket are worth less.
Taking care of our economy is taking care of this nation's people.

I guess I see the "Social Entitlement" problem differently.
IMHO, we waste a whole lot of money on people milking the system.   I have people in my own distant family who have been milking the system for generations.   As long as there is free money to be had, I assure you, they and those like them will go for it.   Working for a living is an alien concept to them.  No pun intended.

Now, if we take some of the "Social Entitlement" money and put it into limited Job/Skill training that will put people back to work with less incentive to milk the system, then I might be more supportive.

Unless Biden gives away the "world" and sacrifices the police and their authority to enforce the law, the current situation will not go away.   On this, I whole heartedly agree with the President.

But, I'm still listening/reading, I'm trying to be open minded but your reasons are not moving my opinion up to this point.

Rams

Exactly

[scooperhsd]

I don't disagree.  It's the lesser of two evils at this point.  I wish that there was a viable third party candidate that could competently represent the center.

Amen.

[ridingron]

It's too bad you can't vote "against" a candidate. Take all the "against" votes, subtract them from the "for" votes and then see who won. The current system of voting against a candidate by voting for the other one leads to a contorted view of the actual support for the winner.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's too bad you can't vote "against" a candidate. Take all the "against" votes, subtract them from the "for" votes and then see who won. The current system of voting against a candidate by voting for the other one leads to a contorted view of the actual support for the winner.

(I must have learned an old fashioned form of math)

[Skinhead]

The way I see it, the Dems want to give a bare minimum to people in exchange for their votes, and keep them dependant on government or the system.

The Republicans want to give people the opportunity to improve their situation.  As long as the hand-outs are there, there is little incentive for those in the system to make any effort too improve their lot in life. 

Alien, I'd like a couple pounds of whatever it is you are smoking.

[DirtyDan]

For whatever it's worth , I got a nice payout from social security

Dan

[Bret SD]

I don't disagree.  It's the lesser of two evils at this point.  I wish that there was a viable third party candidate that could competently represent the center.

At this point, a vote for a Democrat is literally a vote for tyranny.. if you listen to their words and come to another conclusion, then you've been assimilated by the Borg left.

OTOH, a vote for Trump is a vote for freedom, whether you love him or hate him, he will do what's best for our country.

BTW, I loathed the policies of Obama, but hating him personally was something I would not give energy to.