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Battery issue

Started by Valhella, Mon 02, Nov 2020, 14:06:36

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Valhella

Greetings! My '99 Interstate has a starting issue. I keep it on a trickle charger — so it typically will start right up. I might ride once a month or so. The last few rides it started right up. But after a half hour or so on the ride it will have trouble starting after a pit stop. It will turn over fine— with battery power— but take a while to fire back up. I at first suspected the Cigarette lighter connection on my battery (I had just installed it to charge my cellphone). And the starter started acting up intermittently not kicking in. So I stripped that lighter and some other not used wires on my battery— cleaned the terminals and recharged the battery. I took it out for a 1/2 hour ride and when returned it again had trouble restarting. The battery drained significantly— as it took a few hours on the charger to solid green again.
Question: will a battery that can turn over the motor  nicely potentially not have enough spark to start the   Bike up? An aside question— can a bad battery ground affect horsepower/performance? Once I cleaned up the ground issue— the bike seemed to gain some acceleration... really noticeable.

Mooskee

Check to see if your alternator is working. Sounds kinda like you are running on battery.
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Gideon

Quote from: Mooskee on Mon 02, Nov 2020, 14:14:00
Check to see if your alternator is working. Sounds kinda like you are running on battery.

Do as Mooskee suggests. Check the alternator!
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PSUbag

It's also possible that your battery is shot, but as was already mentioned, check the alternator.

Madmike

Quote from: Pluggy on Mon 02, Nov 2020, 16:34:45
Quote from: Valhella on Mon 02, Nov 2020, 14:06:36

Question: will a battery that can turn over the motor  nicely potentially not have enough spark to start the   Bike up? An aside question— can a bad battery ground affect horsepower/performance? Once I cleaned up the ground issue— the bike seemed to gain some acceleration... really noticeable.

I happen to have my 2003 Valkyrie apart.  Battery is 6 months old and recently charged by riding this weekend.  Using a multimeter, battery voltage readings are:  Parked turned off = 12.68V  Cranking = 9.19V  Running = 14.26V.  Check yours for similar results.  It is possible for a Honda to crank but not have the voltage required by the ignition system.  Cranking while reading about 8V is an indicator.  I had that on a different bike.  The battery failed altogether soon after that.

Lots of times it seems the Valk will fire just as you release the "start" button, I speculate that the surge of power as cranking stops may be enough to give a hotter spark.  when voltage is much below 12 v it doesn't seem to fire.  I,m sure that someone may have some actual numbers for this.

The 14.26 is your alternator output voltage.

The battery's ability to hold a charge will depreciate over time.

Valhella

I tested the battery and alternator— battery about 13.5 volts. Starting up the bike it reads about 14.2.

sandy

Val; You mentioned a "trickle charger". There's a big difference between that and a smart charger. The trickle never shuts off and will cook a battery in time. You might have a weak battery. Have a shop put a load test on it to see if it has power under a load.

RonW

Quote from: Valhella on Mon 02, Nov 2020, 19:09:50
I tested the battery and alternator—
  • battery about 13.5 volts.
  • Starting up the bike it reads about 14.2.

Also, the voltage reading at the very moment you press in the start button (as stated). Voltage shouldn't drop below 9.5v.
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