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Started by Chrisj CMA, Thu 19, Nov 2020, 13:05:52

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Chrisj CMA

BOOM!  It's coming

The emperor has no clothes

It's coming ? Another Four Seasons event ?


Hacked Valk

Is his head going to explode from being over filled with lies and conspiracy theories?
The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

carolinarider09

#4
Sidney Powell Releases the Voter Fraud Kraken On Media to Their Faces

https://rumble.com/vb9c99-sidney-powell-releases-the-voter-fraud-kraken-on-media-to-their-faces.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

Look specifically at minute 2:00.

My apologies... I had the wrong link posted here.  I fixed I and re-posted below. 

As an aside, I am getting this information through Parler and all the links there are to Rumble.  I have yet to see a Rumble video blocked but I have only been using it a week or so.


Hacked Valk

Quote from: meathead on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 13:19:53
It's coming ? Another Four Seasons event ?

Trump must have made that reservation personally.
The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

Chrisj CMA

Wait for the pudding. Wait for the pudding, it's still simmering

Hacked Valk

Quote from: carolinarider09 on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 13:24:16
Sidney Powell Releases the Voter Fraud Kraken On Media to Their Faces

Sidney Powell Releases the Voter Fraud Kraken On Media to Their Faces

Look specifically at minute 2:00.
link doesn't work for me
The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

carolinarider09

Sidney Powell explains that the software manual itself, which you can download from the internet to check,  explains how votes can manipulated.  

The machines allow you to set up how votes are counted.  For instance, the machine can be setup such that a vote for Candidate "A" counts as .75 of a vote and a vote for Candidate "B" count as 1.25 of a vote.  

This algorithm was probably run though out the country where ever these voting machines were used.




carolinarider09

I have not verified the information below but it is compatible with the information presented during today's news conference. 



2020-11-15 update: since 2009, Dominion Voting Systems operated from 215 Spadina Ave., Toronto, ON, M5T 2C7,Canada – an office space of the radical Tides Foundation. This building houses (or housed until a few months ago) a Toronto office of Tides Canada and a Tides' incubation space for leftist groups.

Dominion Voting Systems Corp. is the Canadian company behind the ballot switching software.

Dominion was founded in 2003, with a mission to provide electronic voting systems friendly for progressives. Because of such partisanship, it languished with almost no customers for the next 5-6 years, until the Obama administration came to power. In 2010, the Obama administration confiscated electronic voting systems assets (software, intellectual property, manufacturing tools, customer base, etc.) from two established American companies, and gave them to Dominion. At the same time, Dominion got some employees and assets from a foreign EVS company, tied to Hugo Chavez.



https://defyccc.com/shocking-history-of-dominion-voting/


John Schmidt

Quote from: carolinarider09 on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 13:51:26
I have not verified the information below but it is compatible with the information presented during today's news conference. 



2020-11-15 update: since 2009, Dominion Voting Systems operated from 215 Spadina Ave., Toronto, ON, M5T 2C7,Canada – an office space of the radical Tides Foundation. This building houses (or housed until a few months ago) a Toronto office of Tides Canada and a Tides' incubation space for leftist groups.

Dominion Voting Systems Corp. is the Canadian company behind the ballot switching software.

Dominion was founded in 2003, with a mission to provide electronic voting systems friendly for progressives. Because of such partisanship, it languished with almost no customers for the next 5-6 years, until the Obama administration came to power. In 2010, the Obama administration confiscated electronic voting systems assets (software, intellectual property, manufacturing tools, customer base, etc.) from two established American companies, and gave them to Dominion. At the same time, Dominion got some employees and assets from a foreign EVS company, tied to Hugo Chavez.



https://defyccc.com/shocking-history-of-dominion-voting/


I'd be interested in knowing under what pretense did obama confiscate such assets. It wouldn't be the only time he did something at the corporate level that was outside his jurisdiction as POTUS.

scooperhsd

No this is EXACTLY what I said they need to be looking at . I think they have found the smoking gun....

scooperhsd

And if it is - let's do a recount with the parameters set FAIRLY this time. And if the results are different - those state elections are invalid.

This is of course if this is the ONLY cheat the D's did (which I'm pretty sure it isn't) - witness the early AM dumping of ballots....

Oss

The democratic rats and the foreign spymasters and greedy corporate stooges took the cheese

Look for many mice seeking immunity from prosecution while (if) they still can

Also expect the democrat machine to start killing them off just like anyone who had a beef with the clintons

The Republicans want all of them alive so all the evidence can come in

There are those who do not yet believe, there are also those who believe  the world is flat

So be it
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Hacked Valk

The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

Chrisj CMA

Ya ya ya. Keep it up guys. But it's not a joke. People will be going to prison and Donald Trump will be inaugurated for a second term on January 20, 2021.

carolinarider09

Updated the link to Sidney Powell's press conference.  Don't know what I did the first time.  

Here is the link again.

https://rumble.com/vb9c99-sidney-powell-releases-the-voter-fraud-kraken-on-media-to-their-faces.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

Look especially at the 2 minute mark

Dominion is tied to Soros, Clinton Foundation among others.  

carolinarider09

The entire Press Conference can be seen here via OAN.  There are so many examples of the attack on our voting system.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiB6hPBb2Og

If you watch the entire press conference you should be afraid for our republic.  

Some of the people asking questions at the end speak volumes of how biased the press is.



Robert

Quote from: Hacked Valk on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 16:12:49


Its a lot better than someone who spent 47 years in government and things only changed for the worse. Then he promises he will get things done and you vote for him  :2funny:


"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

His hair juice running down his face took some of the thunder away . Wish that had not happened.  It will make it the topic of many . ( Its already happening ) .


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

carolinarider09

Trump campaign lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis gave a blockbuster press conference on Thursday in which they ran down the legal case for the president's repeated claim that he won the 2020 presidential election. Giuliani insisted that the evidence the campaign has collected suggests that "more than double" the margin of votes required to flip the election in six swing states are provably illegal, meaning Trump will have won them when only legal votes are counted. Ellis insisted that the legal challenges are not aimed at reversing the preliminary election results, however, but at restoring election integrity.

n the states that we have indicated in red, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona, we more than double the number of votes needed to overturn the election in terms of provable, illegal ballots," Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, said.

Giuliani insisted that the amount of evidence Team Trump has compiled suggests that Democrats cooked up a voter fraud scheme across the country.

"I think the logical conclusion is this is a common plan, a common scheme, that comes right directly from the Democrat Party and it comes from the candidate. Clearly, that's the reason why Hillary Clinton said, 'Don't concede even if you're losing.' That's the reason, we had a Freudian slip by the candidate and he said he had the best 'voter fraud' team in the country. That's the reason why he probably didn't have to go out and campaign. He had to have known what they were going to do. This had to be planned in advance," the former mayor said.


https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/11/19/team-trump-evidence-shows-more-than-double-the-vote-margin-in-swing-states-is-from-illegal-ballots-n1160908

Hacked Valk

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 16:21:55
Ya ya ya. Keep it up guys. But it's not a joke. People will be going to prison and Donald Trump will be inaugurated for a second term on January 20, 2021.
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The problem with humanity is: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and God-like technology.

f6gal

FEC chairman regarding Sidney Powell:  "forthright and honest in every case she's ever taken on ... if she says there is rampant voter fraud in #Election2020, I believe her."

https://www.citizensjournal.us/fec-chairman-if-sidney-powell-says-there-was-rampant-voter-fraud-i-believe-her/


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

98valk

https://www.conservativenewsdaily.net/breaking-news/9-key-points-from-trump-campaign-press-conference-on-challenges-to-election-results/

1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were "null and void," especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.

2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to "cure" defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.

3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.

4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.

5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being "produced" quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.

6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.

7. There were allegedly "overvotes," with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.

8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic's owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)

9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.
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carolinarider09


Oss

It could be that Trump would have had over 400 electoral votes but for the rampant fraud

Almost 100 more than I thought he had gotten

Yes a real trial is not 48 minutes, the length of a tv episode

The main thing is that when this is over, all elections will be subject to the proper scrutiny and safeguards

That so many are not concerned shows either that those people are not patriots or they just dont give a damn about the safety of their votes or both

If you are a Biden supporter how can you NOT be concerned?  How can you NOT want to see all the evidence  Why would you prejudge the issues? They are too important.

If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
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The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Oss on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:07:08
It could be that Trump would have had over 400 electoral votes but for the rampant fraud

Almost 100 more than I thought he had gotten

Yes a real trial is not 48 minutes, the length of a tv episode

The main thing is that when this is over, all elections will be subject to the proper scrutiny and safeguards

That so many are not concerned shows either that those people are not patriots or they just dont give a damn about the safety of their votes or both

If you are a Biden supporter how can you NOT be concerned?  How can you NOT want to see all the evidence  Why would you prejudge the issues? They are too important.


My NY lawyer friend, I have seen everything they have brought forth. They have all been thrown out or they withdrew them before they were ruled on. I don't know your court record. But I would assume if your record was 0-24, your business would decline. Over 2 weeks now we've been hearing Trump and his people cry foul. Only to lose every stinking time. It's really becoming like the "boy who cried wolf". Patriots uphold the Constitution not the man.

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: meathead on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:26:59
Quote from: Oss on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:07:08
It could be that Trump would have had over 400 electoral votes but for the rampant fraud

Almost 100 more than I thought he had gotten

Yes a real trial is not 48 minutes, the length of a tv episode

The main thing is that when this is over, all elections will be subject to the proper scrutiny and safeguards

That so many are not concerned shows either that those people are not patriots or they just dont give a damn about the safety of their votes or both

If you are a Biden supporter how can you NOT be concerned?  How can you NOT want to see all the evidence  Why would you prejudge the issues? They are too important.


My NY lawyer friend, I have seen everything they have brought forth. They have all been thrown out or they withdrew them before they were ruled on. I don't know your court record. But I would assume if your record was 0-24, your business would decline. Over 2 weeks now we've been hearing Trump and his people cry foul. Only to lose every stinking time. It's really becoming like the "boy who cried wolf". Patriots uphold the Constitution not the man.

Typical repeating the CNN party lines. Time will tell.

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:39:01
Quote from: meathead on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:26:59
Quote from: Oss on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:07:08
It could be that Trump would have had over 400 electoral votes but for the rampant fraud

Almost 100 more than I thought he had gotten

Yes a real trial is not 48 minutes, the length of a tv episode

The main thing is that when this is over, all elections will be subject to the proper scrutiny and safeguards

That so many are not concerned shows either that those people are not patriots or they just dont give a damn about the safety of their votes or both

If you are a Biden supporter how can you NOT be concerned?  How can you NOT want to see all the evidence  Why would you prejudge the issues? They are too important.


My NY lawyer friend, I have seen everything they have brought forth. They have all been thrown out or they withdrew them before they were ruled on. I don't know your court record. But I would assume if your record was 0-24, your business would decline. Over 2 weeks now we've been hearing Trump and his people cry foul. Only to lose every stinking time. It's really becoming like the "boy who cried wolf". Patriots uphold the Constitution not the man.

Typical repeating the CNN party lines. Time will tell.
I haven't watched CNN more than 30 minutes in the last 2 weeks total. So to be honest, I have no idea what their "party line" is. You have been saying time will tell for over 2 weeks now. Still nothing. Your Rudy press conference that you put so much hope in, was like all the rest. Nothing. If he had something, he'd bring it to court. Not the parking lot of a landscaper, or the conference room of the Campaign. The hair dye running down both sides of his face was a nice touch though.  :)

98valk

Quote from: meathead on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:50:58
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:39:01
Quote from: meathead on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:26:59
Quote from: Oss on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 20:07:08
It could be that Trump would have had over 400 electoral votes but for the rampant fraud

Almost 100 more than I thought he had gotten

Yes a real trial is not 48 minutes, the length of a tv episode

The main thing is that when this is over, all elections will be subject to the proper scrutiny and safeguards

That so many are not concerned shows either that those people are not patriots or they just dont give a damn about the safety of their votes or both

If you are a Biden supporter how can you NOT be concerned?  How can you NOT want to see all the evidence  Why would you prejudge the issues? They are too important.


My NY lawyer friend, I have seen everything they have brought forth. They have all been thrown out or they withdrew them before they were ruled on. I don't know your court record. But I would assume if your record was 0-24, your business would decline. Over 2 weeks now we've been hearing Trump and his people cry foul. Only to lose every stinking time. It's really becoming like the "boy who cried wolf". Patriots uphold the Constitution not the man.

Typical repeating the CNN party lines. Time will tell.
I haven't watched CNN more than 30 minutes in the last 2 weeks total. So to be honest, I have no idea what their "party line" is. You have been saying time will tell for over 2 weeks now. Still nothing. Your Rudy press conference that you put so much hope in, was like all the rest. Nothing. If he had something, he'd bring it to court. Not the parking lot of a landscaper, or the conference room of the Campaign. The hair dye running down both sides of his face was a nice touch though.  :)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mark-levin-slams-silent-media-on-reliability-of-dominion-after-previously-reporting-on-voting-concerns
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old2soon

        Evan-Oss-had called me earlier on his way home from the office. This issue Was part of our discussion. With one or two exceptions I pulled almost a straight R ticket. I had mentioned on Our Forum I Had to present a Current Voter Card and a Current Valid I D-drivers license in my case-and they gave me a ballot and went over the instructions to fill out My ballot. I filled out my ballot with the pen my polling place provided. I walked up to a machine after filling out my ballot and what the directions on the machine stated matched what the Nice Lady told me. When I inserted my ballot light went from green to red and after a bit of moise light went back to green. I have No earthly idea if my ballot was tabulated correctly or My actual VOTE went some where or to some one else.  :-X And Should My Vote have Gone to other than to Current POTUS Trump how on earth would I know? The post I read here from a communist dictator nailed it. Do NOT matter who You voted for-It Only Matters WHO counts the votes. Little food fer thought there.  :roll: RIDE SAFE.
         
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check.  1964  1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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Warlock

I am a big Trump supporter. Being said as a loyal voter I'm tired of all the labor pains, I just want to see the baby.
David

I don't want to hear the labor pains, I just want to see the baby

f6gal

Quote from: old2soon on Thu 19, Nov 2020, 21:11:43
       Evan-Oss-had called me earlier on his way home from the office. This issue Was part of our discussion. With one or two exceptions I pulled almost a straight R ticket. I had mentioned on Our Forum I Had to present a Current Voter Card and a Current Valid I D-drivers license in my case-and they gave me a ballot and went over the instructions to fill out My ballot. I filled out my ballot with the pen my polling place provided. I walked up to a machine after filling out my ballot and what the directions on the machine stated matched what the Nice Lady told me. When I inserted my ballot light went from green to red and after a bit of moise light went back to green. I have No earthly idea if my ballot was tabulated correctly or My actual VOTE went some where or to some one else.  :-X And Should My Vote have Gone to other than to Current POTUS Trump how on earth would I know? The post I read here from a communist dictator nailed it. Do NOT matter who You voted for-It Only Matters WHO counts the votes. Little food fer thought there.  :roll: RIDE SAFE.

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."

― Joseph Stalin

Posted way back on Sept 18. 
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,113149.msg1142249.html#msg1142249


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

Robert

#35
It seems that those few who oppose the president and this election say that there is no election fraud.


HUGE! Attorney Sidney Powell CONFIRMS Alleged Dominion Servers in Germany Were Confiscated — VIDEO

Last week Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Salcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosted  elections data improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force and their servers were seized in Frankfurt.

https://youtu.be/jLRa9oCnPdg


She knows the machines were taken but she doesn't know who got them good or bad guys or why our votes were in Germany.

George Bush Senior Has a Few Words For US.

https://youtu.be/Rc7i0wCFf8g

When we are successful and we will be along with a credible United Nations.

This speech that Obama gave is a huge flashback to what is trying to be established today. Rather than Donald Trumps heroic nationalism speech given in front of the UN we have a Barack Obama speaking of a world order. This is the contrast, this is the goals of those who would steal an election. Some see it, some don't what would be the real purpose in either side to steal an election? 

Obama  23 Sep 09

https://youtu.be/xe7Gf1H0hmg

We get so caught up in today's events and forget how they relate to a bigger picture and what we are really fighting for.


When Jesus roamed the earth many did not see Him for who He was and is. If you had, God in the flesh there where you could touch Him what would you ask Him? Most did not see the magnitude of what was happening, who he was but looked at the daily hustle and bustle.

Believe Him or not Jew, gentile He was on the earth what will you choose to see today?

Is this an isolated event of an election or is this the precipice of a major change for the world?

Are there people who would stop at any cost and steal what should be a civilized event?

What would that purpose be if they would do this thing?

   
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Alien

If the Trump administration can prove something conclusively in a court of law, then ok.  But until then, it's just noise.

I do have a question though:

If it was known to the GOP that Dominion was a problem, why did they not challenge it's use prior to the election?

In my opinion, the Trump team needs to focus on whatever single issue is the "big fish" in all of this and stop muddying the waters with easily dismissable nuisance lawsuits that just make them look like they're desperate and grasping at anything and everything.

I don't discount the possibility of fraud, even widespread fraud, but it needs to be proven in a court of law NOT in the media or on Twitter.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Robert

Quote from: Alien on Fri 20, Nov 2020, 08:16:58
If the Trump administration can prove something conclusively in a court of law, then ok.  But until then, it's just noise.

I do have a question though:

If it was known to the GOP that Dominion was a problem, why did they not challenge it's use prior to the election?

In my opinion, the Trump team needs to focus on whatever single issue is the "big fish" in all of this and stop muddying the waters with easily dismissable nuisance lawsuits that just make them look like they're desperate and grasping at anything and everything.

I don't discount the possibility of fraud, even widespread fraud, but it needs to be proven in a court of law NOT in the media or on Twitter.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Believe it or not we agree but NOT the GOP but Trump already did something to make the election and prosecution of those that would subvert the election

He made an executive order with some very strong teeth and the country because of seeing the elections and the perversion of them had kept the country in a state of emergency as far at elections are concerned. How much could a partisan president do over a do nothing congress and the corruption that is present.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

signart

After all is said and done, remember this: Rudy has got what is on Hunter's laptop. Biden's run will at least cost the rest of his son's life in prison.

Alien

I don't know.  I find myself in a very different state of mind than I was before the election.  While I remain opposed to Trump, I also remain an American.  As much as I would like to see him go away, I can't stomach getting rid of him by subverting or perverting the right of the people to choose their leader.

The People have spoken.  I will stand behind whatever choice they made.  We just need proof.  Incontravertable proof.  This is a crisis that has to be conclusively solved or it will hang over either potential administration.

I hopoe Biden won but, if it is proven, in a court of law, that Trump won then I would fully support the will of the people being carried out, much as I may disagree with it.

Ride Safe,

Alien