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icm for Interstate

Started by Shakie NC, Thu 11, Feb 2021, 14:50:47

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Shakie NC

my 98 tourer icm is still good but I am of the under standing that the interstate has more timing that the tourer if that is true I would like to know where is best place to pick one up. TIA.
Shakie NC

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: Shakie NC on Thu 11, Feb 2021, 14:50:47
my 98 tourer icm is still good but I am of the under standing that the interstate has more timing that the tourer if that is true I would like to know where is best place to pick one up. TIA.

What do you mean by "more timing". The IS ECM is programmed for slightly more advance. This brings the power band down so there's more grunt at take off but less at passing speed. I had two standards one with an IS ECM. I preferred the standard standard.

98valk

I/S ICM has more initial advance up to 4200 rpms, then both ICMs have the same advance curves.

So I/S ICM provides more part throttle advance up to 4200 rpms providing better mpg.

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Ken aka Oil Burner

I found mine on Ebay from Pinwall Cycles. If you look for a used one, look at the printing on the case.  The Standard/Tourer ICM has MZO on it. The Interstate one has MBY on the case. This is an IS one on Ebay right now (no affiliation with the seller):  https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Honda-Valkyrie-1500-GL1500CF-Interstate-ECU-COMPUTER-CONTROLLER-UNIT-BLACK/324468701801?hash=item4b8bd77a69:g:1E4AAOSw5WdgFFZx

gordonv

If you added an IS ICM to a different bike, didn't you also have to add a temp sensor too?

There also was the carb needles too being different.
1999 Black with custom paint IS


Shakie NC

don't know what the difference is , that's way I am asking, just heard the IS ICM had added more power , If not I'm good with what the bike came with. Not wanting to do the timing advance mod. thanks for the advice to all of you , it helps in the thinking what all I want to do in tuning up my bike.   BIG THANKS.
Shakie NC

Jack B

I had a I.S. ICM on my 98 Tourer and it was noticeable but not like wow.
I would probably buy another one if I would get another 1500 Valkyire.
Let's RIDE

98valk

Quote from: gordonv on Thu 11, Feb 2021, 22:27:08
If you added an IS ICM to a different bike, didn't you also have to add a temp sensor too?

There also was the carb needles too being different.

added temp sensor is not needed.   

I/S springs not required although they will provide better mpg in the lower rpms and sooner power in the mid to upper RPMS.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

-mike-

#8
Do US-models Standard/Tourer have a throttle position sensor on carb bank?

European models do. This sensor has to be disconnected if a Interstate CDI is used.
The IS ICM does not need the input and gets hot if you keep it connected.

See European Standard schematics (red circle):


Sensor in place:


for benefits of an IS ICM in a Standard see post #2.
Shimmed Standard OEM needles or Interstate needles will improve effect of IS springs as written in post#7.
A Dyno Jet kit #1 if you can get one has the whole pack in one.

-mike-

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: -mike- on Fri 12, Feb 2021, 08:50:22
Do US-models Standard/Tourer have a throttle position sensor on carb bank?

European models do. This sensor has to be disconnected if a Interstate CDI is used.
The IS ICM does not need the input and gets hot if you keep it connected.

See European Standard schematics (red circle):


Sensor in place:


for benefits of an IS ICM in a Standard see post #2.
Shimmed Standard OEM needles or Interstate needles will improve effect of IS springs as written in post#7.
A Dyno Jet kit #1 if you can get one has the whole pack in one.

-mike-

I don't believe US bikes have this throttle position sensor

h13man

Or http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/ect-mod.htm Much cheaper to do and if you don't like it you're only out a few bucks and IS ICM are $$$ if you can get one.

Jersey

Quote from: h13man on Sun 14, Feb 2021, 10:56:20
Or http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/ect-mod.htm Much cheaper to do and if you don't like it you're only out a few bucks and IS ICM are $$$ if you can get one.

Here's the plug-n-play version.  https://jerseymcproducts.bigcartel.com/product/honda-valkyrie-ignition-advance-addon

However, this only imposes the ICM's internal settings via a dial... it doesn't change the internal differences between the I/S version and the one for the Stan/Tour
Jersey