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Harley shocks

Started by raker, Wed 25, Aug 2021, 18:59:38

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raker

Will shocks off a Harley Davidson fit on a Valkyrie? Mine are shot and there seems to be a lot more HD shocks on Craigslist than Valkyrie

da prez

If they do , the bike will leak oil.  :2funny: :2funny: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :crazy2: :crazy2:

                                 da prez

Tfrank59

Not to mention a significant horsepower drop LOL
-Tom

Keep the rubber side down.  USMC '78-'84
'98 Valkyrie, '02 VTX 1800, '96 Royal Star, '06 Drifter, '09 Bonneville, '10 KTM 530, '04 XR 650, '76 Bultaco, '81 CR 450, '78 GS 750...

Jess from VA

Probably not.  The issue is the top and bottom mount points (and bushings).  Not the length. 

CoreyP

Why would you replace bad shocks with used shocks? I would buy something new.

Jess from VA

As I recall, the Progressive Suspension 412s are a decent Valk replacement shock, and can be had under $300.  Nothing fancy, but new.

https://www.progressivesuspension.com/product/1408/412-series-shocks


98valk

Quote from: raker on Wed 25, Aug 2021, 18:59:38
Will shocks off a Harley Davidson fit on a Valkyrie? Mine are shot and there seems to be a lot more HD shocks on Craigslist than Valkyrie

are they leaking? if not u can replace the springs.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

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John Adams 10/11/1798

h13man

Used Progressive #412's on the 1100 Spirit. Very harsh and started to leak in 3 mos. and they weren't the HD version either.

Bagger John - #3785

I see a lot of 13" Harley touring air shocks listed on the auction site from time to time. Some of these are low-mileage takeoffs.

What are the bushing/mount differences between our shocks and those? FWIW, Progressive sells a bushing and collar kit which may be cannibalized for enough stuff to get the H-Ds to work.

Been giving some thought to trying a pair on my I/S, as I've already run the air lines from a fairing-mounted compressor.

98valk

#9
Quote from: Bagger John - #3785 on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 08:11:36
I see a lot of 13" Harley touring air shocks listed on the auction site from time to time. Some of these are low-mileage takeoffs.

What are the bushing/mount differences between our shocks and those? FWIW, Progressive sells a bushing and collar kit which may be cannibalized for enough stuff to get the H-Ds to work.

Been giving some thought to trying a pair on my I/S, as I've already run the air lines from a fairing-mounted compressor.

GL1100 shock fit. just have to change the metal sleeve in the one eyelet to fit the valkyrie.  
the '83 has heavy springs and I feel is the only one to use unless the springs are changed for the '81-'82 models.  

the same progressive 416 air shock is used for the GL1100, Valkyrie and GL1500. the only difference is the eyelet sleeves which can be changed out.

the early 416 was chrome, I was able to get a set that was installed on a GL1100. I don't know when progressive went to the polished aluminum body 416, but I think it was sometime in the late '80s when the GL1500 came out.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Bagger John - #3785

Quote from: 98valk on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 09:20:16
Quote from: Bagger John - #3785 on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 08:11:36
I see a lot of 13" Harley touring air shocks listed on the auction site from time to time. Some of these are low-mileage takeoffs.

What are the bushing/mount differences between our shocks and those? FWIW, Progressive sells a bushing and collar kit which may be cannibalized for enough stuff to get the H-Ds to work.

Been giving some thought to trying a pair on my I/S, as I've already run the air lines from a fairing-mounted compressor.

GL1100 shock fit. just have to change the metal sleeve in the one eyelet to fit the valkyrie.  
the '83 has heavy springs and I feel is the only one to use unless the springs are changed for the '81-'82 models.  

the same progressive 416 air shock is used for the GL1100, Valkyrie and GL1500. the only difference is the eyelet sleeves which can be changed out.

the early 416 was chrome, I was able to get a set that was installed on a GL1100. I don't know when progressive went to the polished aluminum body 416, but I think it was sometime in the late '80s when the GL1500 came out.
I want to put a black set on this particular bike, since everything else is black, The '83 OEMs may be cheap enough used that I can experiment a bit.

Tfrank59

Quote from: Jess from VA on Wed 25, Aug 2021, 21:33:06
As I recall, the Progressive Suspension 412s are a decent Valk replacement shock, and can be had under $300.  Nothing fancy, but new.

https://www.progressivesuspension.com/product/1408/412-series-shocks



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-Tom

Keep the rubber side down.  USMC '78-'84
'98 Valkyrie, '02 VTX 1800, '96 Royal Star, '06 Drifter, '09 Bonneville, '10 KTM 530, '04 XR 650, '76 Bultaco, '81 CR 450, '78 GS 750...

Chrisj CMA

#12
These are Interstate shocks painted black with carbon fiber like vinyl. I've grown to like them a lot




Jess from VA

Given their age, you're lucky their still doing the job.

They look great.   

98valk

they look great Chris.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Bagger John - #3785

Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 22:21:26
Given their age, you're lucky their still doing the job.

They look great.   
That's the gotcha.

My Tourer wears the shocks from my second I/S (~30k miles accrued) and they're still working. For how long will be anyone's guess. I'll eventually have to replace them.

The I/S was converted to air suspension and its Progressive 416s are decent performers, though I'm always tinkering.

srelegante

Following.

My 2000 I/S has 39k miles-how long do these shocks last?

I just did the front and was going to adjust the preload in the rear (new owner).

Wondering about the most feasible replacements and even if they are necessary.

SE

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: srelegante on Mon 30, Aug 2021, 17:34:22
Following.

My 2000 I/S has 39k miles-how long do these shocks last?

I just did the front and was going to adjust the preload in the rear (new owner).

Wondering about the most feasible replacements and even if they are necessary.

SE
You should be good for at least double, triple that. But if you decide to buy something else, I would buy those from you.

98valk

Quote from: srelegante on Mon 30, Aug 2021, 17:34:22
Following.

My 2000 I/S has 39k miles-how long do these shocks last?

I just did the front and was going to adjust the preload in the rear (new owner).

Wondering about the most feasible replacements and even if they are necessary.

SE

a long time.  the upper bushings wear out, less so if replaced with poly bushings. Redeye sells them, best price out there and he spec'd out a very good poly material.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

97BLKVALK

Quote from: 98valk on Mon 30, Aug 2021, 18:10:53
Quote from: srelegante on Mon 30, Aug 2021, 17:34:22
Following.

My 2000 I/S has 39k miles-how long do these shocks last?

I just did the front and was going to adjust the preload in the rear (new owner).

Wondering about the most feasible replacements and even if they are necessary.

SE


https://redeye.ecrater.com/p/18385698/rear-shock-bushing-kit-ver-2

a long time.  the upper bushings wear out, less so if replaced with poly bushings. Redeye sells them, best price out there and he spec'd out a very good poly material.
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