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Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?

Started by allanbegg, Thu 26, Aug 2021, 08:12:12

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allanbegg

All,

My bike ('99 I/S with 172K miles) suddenly developed a strange noise.

The noise is very easy to reproduce. It happens at the no-load point between engine acceleration and deceleration. It sounds like a "chatter" in the driveline. When the engine is pulling, everything sounds fine. When there is engine braking, everything sounds fine. However, at the transition between pull and brake, there is a terrible chattering noise.

I replaced the rear wheel dampeners, along with driveshaft, pinion cup, o-rings, etc during a rear service, but they all have about 50K miles on them.

We pulled everything apart last night and the only wear (or slack) that I can find is with the wheel dampeners. They are all loose in the pockets, with a couple moving about an 1/8 inch and a couple moving about 3/16 inch. There is a fair amount of rubber dust in the pockets. I'll replace the dampeners, but am not certain that this is the cause of the chatter.

Should I keep looking for another issue, or do these dampeners cause a racket when they wear out?

Thanks, Allan
VRCC # 36795

RonW

#1
Just wedge (shim) them tight and if the sound goes away.
2000 Valkyrie Tourer

Chrisj CMA

While it's apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?

Bagger John - #3785

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 08:27:25
While it's apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?
+1

allanbegg

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 08:27:25
While it's apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?

Pinion Cup only has 50k miles on it and still looks as new as the day I installed it.
All splines on the driveshaft (also 50K miles) look great, with no signs of wear.

Opened up the differential and ring/pinion gears look beautiful.

I'll pull the u-joint later today, to get a better inspection of it.

Thanks for the input, so far.

Allan
VRCC # 36795

allanbegg

Update:

U-Joint for the win (er, fail). It is completely trashed.
I'm surprised that the bike was still rolling under it's own power.

Should be a relatively easy and inexpensive fix.

Thanks for the suggestions and help.

Allan

VRCC # 36795

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Quote from: allanbegg on Thu 26, Aug 2021, 12:05:21
Update:

U-Joint for the win (er, fail). It is completely trashed.
I'm surprised that the bike was still rolling under it's own power.

Should be a relatively easy and inexpensive fix.

Thanks for the suggestions and help.

Allan



:o

Avanti

That might hold a record, at least in my book it does.

pancho

Wow,,,   hard to believe the only noticeable symptom was the noise. You're going to think you got a new bike when it's back together.
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

gordonv

You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.
1999 Black with custom paint IS


Valker

Quote from: gordonv on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 21:14:21
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:
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Quote from: Valker on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 21:26:07
Quote from: gordonv on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 21:14:21
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:
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Grandpot

Quote from: Valker on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 21:26:07
Quote from: gordonv on Fri 27, Aug 2021, 21:14:21
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:

You were supposed to pour the beer on the boot for lube.
:crazy2: Experience is recognizing the same mistake every time you make it.:crazy2: