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Started by f6gal, Sat 08, Oct 2022, 14:32:00

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f6gal

I have an LG Gram 15Z960.  I just replaced the battery; the first time I charged it, it fully charged.  The second charge and all subsequent charges, it will only charge to 64%.  Any ideas?


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

Chrisj CMA

Run it to absolute zero and then see if it charges to 100%

f6gal

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 16:52:48
Run it to absolute zero and then see if it charges to 100%

Nope... 64%.


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

f6john

Quote from: f6gal on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 17:21:09
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 16:52:48
Run it to absolute zero and then see if it charges to 100%

Nope... 64%.


As with most things 64% is probably the new 100% :tickedoff:  Wish I could be more helpful.

carolinarider09

Ok... I did a search, I have not used an LG product in years nor have I used Microsoft OS in years, however this caught my eye.  

It implies that you can limit the charge on the device by setting in the software's OS. Don't have a clue how or why but that is what it implies.  When you changed out the battery it might have defaulted to a certain setting.   One never knows.  

I recently installed LG Gram 14 laptop, and installed Manjaro in it. Everything works out of the box. The only thing I am searching like anything is to get the 80% battery charge limit functionality provided by LG control center, which comes preinstalled with this laptop. Unfortunately for GNU/Linux I tried TLP but as it seems TLP has this functionality but only for Thinkpads. It will be really helpful if any one knows if the same thing can be achieved on my laptop. Thanks in advance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/9puqeg/limiting_battery_charge_at_80_or_any_value_on_lg/

Jersey mike

Quote from: f6john on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 18:18:25
Quote from: f6gal on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 17:21:09
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 16:52:48
Run it to absolute zero and then see if it charges to 100%

Nope... 64%.


As with most things 64% is probably the new 100% :tickedoff:  Wish I could be more helpful.

Could be the effects of electrical inflation or electric rationing.

Sorry I couldn't resist.

Hope you find out the answer.

Is it possible your replacement battery isn't working properly? I wouldn't know how to test for that.

bassman

First, I am a computer idiot so some of these ideas may really be stupid and...... in no particular order/combination:

1)  Remove/replace battery again to ensure good connection.  May even squirt a shot of compressed air into connector.

2)  Ensure ALL plug connectors are firmly in place including both ends of the "brick" on the charging cord.

3)  Try a different 110 outlet or two in the home

4)  Are there any hardware/software/driver updates available for the computer AND battery - if there is such a thing

5)  Try charging in "Airplane Mode", if available

6)  Reboot the computer by turning it off for 60 seconds.

7)  Hold down the "power" button down for 60 seconds  - may want to research this one before attempting it - not sure what it might do to your computer/system.

Good luck !!

Psychotic Bovine

i know this is for a dell, but lg probably has the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKzFXyDGTo
"I aim to misbehave."

Bret SD

Quote from: f6gal on Sat 08, Oct 2022, 14:32:00
I have an LG Gram 15Z960.  I just replaced the battery; the first time I charged it, it fully charged.  The second charge and all subsequent charges, it will only charge to 64%.  Any ideas?
Where did you get the new battery from? Some after market batteries aren't very good.
Bret

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f6gal

Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sun 09, Oct 2022, 11:03:58
i know this is for a dell, but lg probably has the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKzFXyDGTo


Thanks Chris.  I actually saw this yesterday when I was searching for an answer.  I didn't try it though, based on his comment that it was designed to protect a battery that is plugged in a lot (as mine is).


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

Psychotic Bovine

Quote from: f6gal on Sun 09, Oct 2022, 12:17:51
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sun 09, Oct 2022, 11:03:58
i know this is for a dell, but lg probably has the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKzFXyDGTo


Thanks Chris.  I actually saw this yesterday when I was searching for an answer.  I didn't try it though, based on his comment that it was designed to protect a battery that is plugged in a lot (as mine is).

Welcome.
"I aim to misbehave."

Robert

#11
Sometimes like on I phone or even cars the battery percentage meter is a learned percentage. See if you can reset it. The other thing that came to mind is the battery the same rating as the oem battery? If the battery amp hour rating is the different it may calculate the rating differently.

LG Gram Battery Charge Limit for Windows 10/11
Software

I've had laptops from lenovo and dell, and most of these manufacturers have systems software that lets you limit the battery charge to a level of your choosing, eg. 75% or 80%. There doesn't seem to be an obvious solution for this with LG laptops. I have the Intel 11th gen version (not the newest with thunderbolt 4 charging only). Is there a way I can make the laptop stop charging at 80% or something on Windows 10/11? I've seen online solutions pointing to Linux, but I don't use that.

And before there's any scrutiny about this, yes your laptop battery does degrade faster when it's plugged in for prolonged period of time at 100% state of charge. I have a graduate degree on this ok?..


Open LG Smart assistant, click the battery icon on the left and toggle on the extend battery life option.

https://www.reddit.com/r/laptops/comments/wqhx11/lg_gram_battery_charge_limit_for_windows_1011/
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Jess from VA

I recently acquired some high tech rechargeable hearing aids.

I don't really need them (yet) and still have pretty good hearing (other than high frequency), and am only wearing them occasionally.

So I charge them up and set them aside.  A full charge from empty can take 4 hours.  Days later I stick them in and they are not charged up.

After thinking I had a problem with the charger or aids, I discovered that if you stick them in the charger off, they turn on automatically.  And if you don't check them and turn them off after charging, they stay on for several days stored, and of course the charge drops off.  Turning them off after full charge, waiting 3 days, then sticking them back on the charger before wearing them again, they are fully charged in 5-10 minutes.

They also have tinnitus masking (which is why I really got them).  It's like tubular bells in your head, but better than the electronic buzz when it gets bad.   Tinnitus sucks.

Me and technology.   :P

scooperhsd

Quote from: Jess from VA on Tue 11, Oct 2022, 08:27:20
I recently acquired some high tech rechargeable hearing aids.

I don't really need them (yet) and still have pretty good hearing (other than high frequency), and am only wearing them occasionally.

So I charge them up and set them aside.  A full charge from empty can take 4 hours.  Days later I stick them in and they are not charged up.

After thinking I had a problem with the charger or aids, I discovered that if you stick them in the charger off, they turn on automatically.  And if you don't check them and turn them off after charging, they stay on for several days stored, and of course the charge drops off.  Turning them off after full charge, waiting 3 days, then sticking them back on the charger before wearing them again, they are fully charged in 5-10 minutes.

They also have tinnitus masking (which is why I really got them).  It's like tubular bells in your head, but better than the electronic buzz when it gets bad.   Tinnitus sucks.

Me and technology.   :P

Tinnitus is ONE thing I don't have to deal with - over the years, I've tried to be very easy on my ears. As a consequence, I've always had top of the charts hearing for my age - super outstanding high frequency (I could hear 22KHz at age 55 still) and I can hear and tune my string bass just fine (lowest string is usually tuned to 41 Hz, and I can hear to below 20 Hz).

Batteries - technically , ideally you should keep Lithium Ion batterys between 20 and 80 percent for regular use. And I'm pretty bad about keeping my laptop (Lenovo - and it's my primary computer / internet device) off the charger.

hubcapsc

Quote from: scooperhsd on Tue 11, Oct 2022, 08:53:20
... (Lenovo - and it's my primary computer / internet device) ...

Me too  :cooldude: ...

Q3. Can a Lenovo Mobile PC battery be "overcharged"?

No, the battery is designed to stop using the charger when full charge is reached.


-Mike

Jess from VA

Tinnitus is ONE thing I don't have to deal with - over the years, I've tried to be very easy on my ears.

(Not to hijack more than I have, but)

All tinnitus is not caused by loud noise exposure (alone).

Most is associated with old age (men more than women), and a combination of loud noise, high freq hearing loss.  It certainly can be caused by chronic ear infections.

Or like I think mine was, by a single head trauma.  Now I had a very low level periodic tinnitus for many years; so low it never bothered me.  I had to actually listen for it to know it was even there.

But about 5 months ago I awoke to a terribly infected molar; my whole face swollen.  I had to go on strong antibiotics for two weeks before pulling it.  Many antibiotics are ototoxic (bad for hearing and tinnitus), but not my amoxicillin.  

But the extraction was brutal (much worse than my others), with hammering and banging and yanking, followed by deep scraping.  And the next morning I awoke to a tinnitus so loud it drove me to near insanity.  Not a head trauma you might think of, but it was.  


Rams

Quote from: Jess from VA on Tue 11, Oct 2022, 09:18:06
Tinnitus is ONE thing I don't have to deal with - over the years, I've tried to be very easy on my ears.

(Not to hijack more than I have, but)

All tinnitus is not caused by loud noise exposure (alone).

Most is associated with old age (men more than women), and a combination of loud noise, high freq hearing loss.  It certainly can be caused by chronic ear infections.

Or like I think mine was, by a single head trauma.  Now I had a very low level periodic tinnitus for many years; so low it never bothered me.  I had to actually listen for it to know it was even there.

But about 5 months ago I awoke to a terribly infected molar; my whole face swollen.  I had to go on strong antibiotics for two weeks before pulling it.  Many antibiotics are ototoxic (bad for hearing and tinnitus), but not my amoxicillin.  

But the extraction was brutal (much worse than my others), with hammering and banging and yanking, followed by deep scraping.  And the next morning I awoke to a tinnitus so loud it drove me to near insanity.  Not a head trauma you might think of, but it was.  

Interesting, I get accused of "Selective Listening"...............   :roll:
I plead the fifth.  ;)

Rams   
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Jess from VA

Pleading the fifth is better for you than drinking it.   :)