Suspect Nabbed............

[Rams]

Suspect in deaths of Idaho students arrested in Pennsylvania

https://www.aol.com/news/suspect-in-deaths-of-idaho-students-arrested-in-pennsylvania-170804619.html

Let's keep in mind that just because he's a suspect doesn't mean he's guilty of anything.

Should he be found guilty, I'll provide the rope and pull the lever but, until then, he's just a suspect.

Rams

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

[Rams]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

Arrest comes after officers traced white Hyundai to his Pennsylvania address and cross-matched his DNA found at scene of quadruple slaying

First I've heard that they had a DNA match.   Might be true, no one else is reporting that.

Edited:  Britman, apparently news is slow in Mississippi.   It appears your source may infact be correct.

Rams  

[f6gal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

Arrest comes after officers traced white Hyundai to his Pennsylvania address and cross-matched his DNA found at scene of quadruple slaying

First I've heard that they had a DNA match.   Might be true, no one else is reporting that.

Rams  

Kohberger's DNA has also been matched to genetic material recovered at the off-campus house where the students were stabbed to death.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/us/university-of-idaho-student-killings-investigation/index.html

Also, Pullman, WA is only about 8 min from Moscow, ID.

[Valkorado]

The creep was studying toward a criminology PhD.  Could he have actually thought he could get away with it?

[The emperor has no clothes]

The creep was studying toward a criminology PhD.  Could he have actually thought he could get away with it?

Probably. I don't know much about the mind of someone who would do such a thing. But from watching documentaries about these kinds of criminals, they all seem to have a higher sense of slyness than is warranted. I'm just glad this Police Department seems to have a handle on the case. It was appearing that they didn't for quite a while.

[Rams]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

Arrest comes after officers traced white Hyundai to his Pennsylvania address and cross-matched his DNA found at scene of quadruple slaying

First I've heard that they had a DNA match.   Might be true, no one else is reporting that.

Rams  

Kohberger's DNA has also been matched to genetic material recovered at the off-campus house where the students were stabbed to death.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/us/university-of-idaho-student-killings-investigation/index.html

Also, Pullman, WA is only about 8 min from Moscow, ID.

Thanks for the update on info (even if it is from and un-named source).   I had not seen that information when I posted a response to Britman.

Rams

[f6gal]

The creep was studying toward a criminology PhD.  Could he have actually thought he could get away with it?

He was conducting a research project "to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making when committing a crime."  The study sought to understand the story behind criminals' offenses, with an emphasis their thoughts and feelings throughout the experience.

Holy Shite!

[Jersey mike]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

Arrest comes after officers traced white Hyundai to his Pennsylvania address and cross-matched his DNA found at scene of quadruple slaying

First I've heard that they had a DNA match.   Might be true, no one else is reporting that.

Rams  

Kohberger's DNA has also been matched to genetic material recovered at the off-campus house where the students were stabbed to death.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/us/university-of-idaho-student-killings-investigation/index.html

Also, Pullman, WA is only about 8 min from Moscow, ID.

From my understanding the scene of the crime was a revolving door of partying with little to no use of locks. It's been said there have been many people through those doors on many occasions.

What is the DNA evidence? I don't know. An alibi? Well maybe something along these lines. He's been there before, he went looking for a party, walked into the crime scene panicked and ran (drove) away. Is there a crime for not reporting a crime?

Is this a slam dunk case? I don't think so yet.

[Rams]

Is this a slam dunk case? I don't think so yet.

I agree based on the available information but to be honest, it ain't easy maintaining an innocent until proven guilty thought process.  

We all want the killer to be found and punished.   If, they got the killer, prove it, I'll be happy to provide the rope and pull the lever.   Or, in this case, inject the killer with the approved drugs.  The only method used in Utah  Idaho.

Rams

[Jersey mike]

Is this a slam dunk case? I don't think so yet.

I agree based on the available information but to be honest, it ain't easy maintaining an innocent until proven guilty thought process.  

We all want the killer to be found and punished.   If, they got the killer, prove it, I'll be happy to provide the rope and pull the lever.   Or, in this case, inject the killer with the approved drugs.  The only method used in Utah.

Rams

I'll be honest, let the families decide on his fate or whomever is the culprit is...but that'll never happen.
Lethal injection is too soft a demise. Public hanging would be good or the chair, there's some medieval stuff that would work too.

[Oldfishguy]

My gut is telling me this is not his first rodeo; follow his trail and see what mysterious deaths are in the path.

[f6gal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586427/SWAT-teams-descended-Poconos-mountain-town-arrest-Idaho-murder-suspect-Bryan-Kohberger.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11585985/Idaho-police-suspect-CUSTODY-murders-four-students.html

Arrest comes after officers traced white Hyundai to his Pennsylvania address and cross-matched his DNA found at scene of quadruple slaying

First I've heard that they had a DNA match.   Might be true, no one else is reporting that.

Rams  

Kohberger's DNA has also been matched to genetic material recovered at the off-campus house where the students were stabbed to death.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/us/university-of-idaho-student-killings-investigation/index.html

Also, Pullman, WA is only about 8 min from Moscow, ID.

From my understanding the scene of the crime was a revolving door of partying with little to no use of locks. It's been said there have been many people through those doors on many occasions.

What is the DNA evidence? I don't know. An alibi? Well maybe something along these lines. He's been there before, he went looking for a party, walked into the crime scene panicked and ran (drove) away. Is there a crime for not reporting a crime?

Is this a slam dunk case? I don't think so yet.

No, not yet.  But I think they will likely find DNA of one or more of the victims in the car.  Also, they will likely find something incriminating in his Pullman apartment.  

[f6gal]

My gut is telling me this is not his first rodeo; follow his trail and see what mysterious deaths are in the path.

Probably not his first.

[Rams]

Might be a bit difficult to get a unbiased jury................  
If he's the killer, the LEOs need to keep as much out of our (the public) view until the trial in order to get a conviction.   

Who here would want to be on that jury?  

Rams

[Jess from VA]

DNA (where so far found) only puts him there.

He's appears to be a lunatic, can he remain silent?

Does he take a plea to avoid the death penalty?  (often a satisfactory result if the evidence is slim)

I'm not in the mood for another OJ trial.   


Once, as only a sophomore resident adviser in the dormitory, I identified a freshman psychopath living there through casual conversation and a couple beers (proven out on subsequent psychiatric exam and commitment).  He had been breaking into girls rooms (coed dorm) and leaving disturbing things under their pillows and on the beds.  He was a danger to himself and others, and was removed from the U.  They walk among us. 

[RP#62]

Depends on where they found his DNA.  If they found any under the victims' fingernails that can be compelling.

-RP

[f6gal]

Who here would want to be on that jury?  

Rams

[Rams]

Who here would want to be on that jury?  

Rams

[f6gal]

Depends on where they found his DNA.  If they found any under the victims' fingernails that can be compelling.

-RP

That would be a slam dunk.  So far they haven't said where in the house they found his DNA.

[scooperhsd]

I don't ever want to be on a jury. Being on a Court-Martial Board once was enough for me...

[Rams]

I don't ever want to be on a jury. Being on a Court-Martial Board once was enough for me...

Been in on one court martial and one flight evaluation board.   

In the case of the court martial, the accused won, the Commander and First Sargent didn't do all they were supposed to do.   That's not to say the accused didn't deserve to be court martialed, just that the command structure didn't have their stuff together enough to convict.

In the flight eval board, the accused (a Warrant Officer II) came up hot on a pee test, said his wife smoked pot and he was exposed to secondhand smoke.   What the truth is didn't matter, he came up hot.   A unanimous decision to take his wings and he was discharged shortly thereafter.   IIRC, he got a BCD but, that memory is fuzzy.   Yeah, I'm getting old.

Reference the upcoming trial for the four murders, I would do it in a heartbeat if, I thought I could look at the evidence from a neutral position (assuming I was selected to serve on that jury).   That's why I don't believe the "authorities" should be advertising what evidence they have.   Let it come out in court.   It's enough for me to know they have a suspect in custody.

Rams

[Rams]

Heard a report today that the accused is not fighting extradition.
His lawyer said, he's not denying that he's Bryan Christopher Kohberger and that was that.

Rams

[Serk]

Who here would want to be on that jury?  

I would, but they wouldn't take me... I hear once you've served on one capital murder jury, you'll never be accepted to serve on another...

[h13man]

The in depth article by the UK news is pretty damn deep in info/writing. It seems our reporters are pretty lame/disinterested in this case from what I read on FB last night. We shouldn't know anything about the DNA till court.
I'm still haven't heard much more about our local proceedings to do with "Abby and Libby" killings/Delphi murders. We live in a very unpredictable world. So sad.

[Rams]

Just saw a report that the accused was frequently in the same locations as (at least two) the murdered people.   The reporter and the person interviewed both indicated that the accused might be a stalker.
Didn't hear enough of the report to know if this was determined by actual witnesses or by cell phone locations or what.   I do think that may be information that could help sway a jury.

Rams

[f6gal]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

[The emperor has no clothes]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

I haven't been following it. What did he do ?

[f6gal]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

I haven't been following it. What did he do ?

There's nothing definitive, just a gut feeling.  BK lives approximately 8 miles from the crime scene.  It's been in the news for weeks that they were looking for a white Hyundai Elantra.  Dad flew out to drive back to PA with BK in a white Hyundai Elantra.  After arriving in PA, they took the car to a repair shop.  

Like I said, just a gut feeling, but it's hard to imagine that his parents wouldn't make the leap to BK's car when they heard about the white Hyundai Elantra, but they didn't call any officials about the car.  I also believe that someone capable of this has probably demonstrated deviant behaviors throughout his life that would have made his parents question if this could be him.

[Oldfishguy]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

I haven't been following it. What did he do ?

I also believe that someone capable of this has probably demonstrated deviant behaviors throughout his life.  

Spot on.

For those seeking insight in to this type of personality there is a fairly recent show called "The Patient", starring Steve Carell of "The Office" fame.  I saw it on Hulu a while back; it is exceptionally well done piece of work.  And it is a dark short series . . . very dark. 

[Jersey mike]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

I haven't been following it. What did he do ?

There's nothing definitive, just a gut feeling.  BK lives approximately 8 miles from the crime scene.  It's been in the news for weeks that they were looking for a white Hyundai Elantra.  Dad flew out to drive back to PA with BK in a white Hyundai Elantra.  After arriving in PA, they took the car to a repair shop.  

Like I said, just a gut feeling, but it's hard to imagine that his parents wouldn't make the leap to BK's car when they heard about the white Hyundai Elantra, but they didn't call any officials about the car.  I also believe that someone capable of this has probably demonstrated deviant behaviors throughout his life that would have made his parents question if this could be him.

Yesterday I read the father's trip had been a planned trip, if I can find the article I'll post it later. I believe it was a business related trip then down to get the kid and drive home for the holidays. Supposedly the father and son were pulled twice (once was for speeding and the other tailgating) according to their lawyer but no tickets were given. The has not been any evidence or police reports to support that claim.

As far as the repair shop...what can be said about that? This wasn't a hit and run and a 2,000+ mile trip could throw a check engine light. Unless they took the car in for a complete interior detailing which would be suspicious, service work really isn't part of the crime.

Lots of stuff I've read seem off with this guy, but so far it's all conjecture and interviews with people painting him as some type of creep...which he might be, however how many (and who) are blowing it out of proportion?

I'm not trying to defend him but right now we have zero evidence except his DNA at the scene. Even if the DNA of the victims are in his car, that's pretty easy to explain away especially if he's been to the house before unless it was fresh blood. They've claimed there was no sexual assault, but maybe there's semen at the scene somewhere.

I'm not pulling for the guy to be released but too much has been speculated but no evidence or reasons have been released to really see the whole thing. All I really know is this is some eerie, sick and twisted stuff.

Added:

Maybe the DNA linking him was his vomit if he got sick at the scene. I believe DNA can be extracted from a person's vomit.

[Foozle]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

I haven't been following it. What did he do ?

There's nothing definitive, just a gut feeling.  BK lives approximately 8 miles from the crime scene.  It's been in the news for weeks that they were looking for a white Hyundai Elantra.  Dad flew out to drive back to PA with BK in a white Hyundai Elantra.  After arriving in PA, they took the car to a repair shop.  

Like I said, just a gut feeling, but it's hard to imagine that his parents wouldn't make the leap to BK's car when they heard about the white Hyundai Elantra, but they didn't call any officials about the car.  I also believe that someone capable of this has probably demonstrated deviant behaviors throughout his life that would have made his parents question if this could be him.

Yesterday I read the father's trip had been a planned trip, if I can find the article I'll post it later. I believe it was a business related trip then down to get the kid and drive home for the holidays. Supposedly the father and son were pulled twice (once was for speeding and the other tailgating) according to their lawyer but no tickets were given. The has not been any evidence or police reports to support that claim.

As far as the repair shop...what can be said about that? This wasn't a hit and run and a 2,000+ mile trip could throw a check engine light. Unless they took the car in for a complete interior detailing which would be suspicious, service work really isn't part of the crime.

Lots of stuff I've read seem off with this guy, but so far it's all conjecture and interviews with people painting him as some type of creep...which he might be, however how many (and who) are blowing it out of proportion?

I'm not trying to defend him but right now we have zero evidence except his DNA at the scene. Even if the DNA of the victims are in his car, that's pretty easy to explain away especially if he's been to the house before unless it was fresh blood. They've claimed there was no sexual assault, but maybe there's semen at the scene somewhere.

I'm not pulling for the guy to be released but too much has been speculated but no evidence or reasons have been released to really see the whole thing. All I really know is this is some eerie, sick and twisted stuff.

Added:

Maybe the DNA linking him was his vomit if he got sick at the scene. I believe DNA can be extracted from a person's vomit.

I would simply add to this that there's been (rightly or wrongly) a tremendous amount of pressure placed on the local enforcement to get a suspect in custody - the implication being that Moscow (ID) police are in WAY over their heads with this case.

If this guy is indeed guilty (and he well may be) I hope he never again sees the light of day.  Unfortunately, it also wouldn't be the first time the emphasis is on closing a case rather than seeking justice.

Just my .02.

[Rams]

I would simply add to this that there's been (rightly or wrongly) a tremendous amount of pressure placed on the local enforcement to get a suspect in custody - the implication being that Moscow (ID) police are in WAY over their heads with this case.

If this guy is indeed guilty (and he well may be) I hope he never again sees the light of day.  Unfortunately, it also wouldn't be the first time the emphasis is on closing a case rather than seeking justice.

Just my .02.

Whole heartedly agree.   Way too much speculation from the press, let it all come out in court.

Rams

[f6gal]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

As I said, there was nothing definitive.  But if he did it, I'd bet the parents knew or at least suspected.

[The emperor has no clothes]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

As I said, there was nothing definitive.  But if he did it, I'd bet the parents knew or at least suspected.

Maybe. But I'm sure there are lots of parents out there that have no idea what theirs kids are doing. If I remember correctly Jeffrey Dahmers parents had no clue, and look at what that dude was doing.

[Rams]

So who thinks Bryan Kohberger's father will be found accessory after the fact?

As I said, there was nothing definitive.  But if he did it, I'd bet the parents knew or at least suspected.

I sincerely doubt the father and the accused didn't have some discussion about the car described and the accused location to the murder scene.   What or how that discussion took place and what the accused told his dad is questionable but, only an idiot would think that discussion didn't happen.
I do believe that all parents would want to believe their offspring if they said they played no part in the murders.

Rams

[Rams]

Only sharing what I found:

'You Come In Here & I'll Cut You!' University Of Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger Taunts Guards & Exposes Himself In Jail, Inmate Claims

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/you-come-in-here-i-ll-cut-you-university-of-idaho-murder-suspect-bryan-kohberger-taunts-guards-exposes-himself-in-jail-inmate-claims/ar-AA15VtHR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7f52737183ee4564b68a83c2edaaed51

No idea if what's in that article is true or not but.....................  You have been warned.

Rams

[Serk]

...and that's about all we'll hear about this for a while, from official channels at least:

"Idaho murders: Judge issues gag order blocking officials, defense from discussing case against Bryan Kohberger
Tightlipped police say they will no longer be communicating with the public"

https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-judge-issues-gag-order-blocking-officials-defense-from-discussing-case-against-bryan-kohberger

[Jess from VA]

Too much pretrial publicity is always a problem for potential jury pool neutrality.

And few want a change of venue.

They may have the guy.   Do they have the case (proof)?

Goofy antics in pretrial confinement to support an insanity plea?

[f6gal]

Too much pretrial publicity is always a problem for potential jury pool neutrality.

And few want a change of venue.

They may have the guy.   Do they have the case (proof)?

Goofy antics in pretrial confinement to support an insanity plea?

They can move it to Phoenix... I haven't heard anything about it.  I swear!