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Feel as if something's not right, but not sure.

Started by Knapdog, Tue 15, Aug 2023, 05:45:06

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Knapdog

 Bike was lacking a bit of power and idle dropped down to 500rpm.
Tiny bit of deposit in the rank which I cleaned.
Air filter only 5000 moles and looking like new.
Took the carbs out and cleaned the jets but they were good anyway. Little bit of sediment in a couple of bowls.
All float needles good and working.
Put all back together. Took for a ride then digitally synced the carbs and they're all spot on.
I seem to have plenty of power. Very good acceleration but sort of feel that the sound is not right.
All hoses and vacuum caps newish and sound.
Plugs iridium and gaps checked.
Sounds as if there's a minute bit of "missing" somewhere.
Any thoughts you can offer and pinpoint to something?
Started to wonder if there actually is a problem or possibly a couple of percent of one.
Sorry to be vague.
Obviously,  initially there was but I've done a lot to try to sort it.
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'96 Honda C90
'83 Honda C90C

Jims99

I've heard from a few people that the factory plugs are the way to go. Some of the higher performance ones don't work right in our bikes. Cheap easy to try. I personally never tried anything but stock.
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Knapdog

Quote from: Jims99/00 on Tue 15, Aug 2023, 06:23:03
I've heard from a few people that the factory plugs are the way to go. Some of the higher performance ones don't work right in our bikes. Cheap easy to try. I personally never tried anything but stock.

I've still got the previous, which I put in for around 1000 miles. Will try those and see if there's a difference.
There could well be a very slight blockage in just one of the jets somewhere, which is actually what it feels like.
I've put some carb/fuel injector cleaner in the tank this afternoon to see if that helps.
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Bagger John - #3785

Run a compression and leakdown test on all the cylinders.

Knapdog


I haven't done much since my last post as, since it's my wedding anniversary, I've been on my best behaviour and doting on Mrs Knapdog,  as opposed to the "fat lady", and treated her to a fine meal out at a local Inn ( a lie.... she treated me).
I took the iridium out and replaced with my nearly new NKG standard plugs with .035" gaps.
As soon as I started her up she had a little backfire (never known before) from the left exhaust but seemed to be idling very sweetly ( the fat lady, not Mrs Knapdog) and smooth on the throttle.
I have a new cbr600 petcock instead of Vacuum related oem. I ALWAYS turn it off.
The only other thing I did was tighten some of the exhaust studs up around 1/32 of a turn, if that,  which is hardly anything.
Looking forward to taking her out in the morning.  It's now 10pm here and ready for bed. I'd forgotten it was our Anniversary when I woke up this morning but that's another story.
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'98 Honda Valkyrie Tourer⁸
'96 Honda C90
'83 Honda C90C

Knapdog

Right, it feels sorted.
Standard plugs now in with .035" gap. I've double checked the tightness of air intakes, exhaust studs etc.
All is well, particularly with the Kuryakyn 4050 highway pegs fitted as well for the first time.
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'96 Honda C90
'83 Honda C90C

98valk

Quote from: Knapdog on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 10:17:43
Right, it feels sorted.
Standard plugs now in with .035" gap. I've double checked the tightness of air intakes, exhaust studs etc.
All is well, particularly with the Kuryakyn 4050 highway pegs fitted as well for the first time.

best to gap plugs are 0.031. the coils are marginal for any thing more.

mod to do is cut back the side electrode so it is half way over the center electrode and round off the end.
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Knapdog

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Quote from: 98valk on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 11:28:00
Quote from: Knapdog on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 10:17:43
Right, it feels sorted.
Standard plugs now in with .035" gap. I've double checked the tightness of air intakes, exhaust studs etc.
All is well, particularly with the Kuryakyn 4050 highway pegs fitted as well for the first time.

best to gap plugs are 0.031. the coils are marginal for any thing more.

mod to do is cut back the side electrode so it is half way over the center electrode and round off the end.

Appreciated.  Thank you, but could you elaborate a bit more about cutting back the side electrode  please?
Do you mean the top bendy bit that curls over?
..... and sawing  a bit off so the end us in line with the middle of the centre electrode?
Stay between the hedges!

'98 Honda Valkyrie Tourer⁸
'96 Honda C90
'83 Honda C90C

98valk

Quote from: Knapdog on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 12:05:23
Quote from: 98valk on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 11:28:00
Quote from: Knapdog on Wed 16, Aug 2023, 10:17:43
Right, it feels sorted.
Standard plugs now in with .035" gap. I've double checked the tightness of air intakes, exhaust studs etc.
All is well, particularly with the Kuryakyn 4050 highway pegs fitted as well for the first time.

best to gap plugs are 0.031. the coils are marginal for any thing more.

mod to do is cut back the side electrode so it is half way over the center electrode and round off the end.

Appreciated.  Thank you, but could you elaborate a bit more about cutting back the side electrode  please?
Do you mean the top bendy bit that curls over?
..... and sawing  a bit off so the end us in line with the middle of the centre electrode?

yes
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Knapdog

Furthermore, I discovered I'd pinched two of the air box "legs" where they fit around the back on the intakes.
At last it's breathing properly.
Stay between the hedges!

'98 Honda Valkyrie Tourer⁸
'96 Honda C90
'83 Honda C90C