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Drag Specialties Premium Full Synthetic 20w40 Oil

Started by DragonRdr, Thu 30, Oct 2025, 13:21:00

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DragonRdr

Just curious if anyone has ever used this oil in their Valks? One of my neighbors has 6 quarts he's selling. He sold his Indian and doesn't need it anymore. Says he'll give me a good deal.  :-\
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1994 Goldwing Interstate

Challenger

No personal experience ,  but it is  non energy conserving so should be good.
Supposedly designed for Indian engine, Trans and clutches.

98valk

if it doesn't meet Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1 it will not have zinc and phosphorus levels over 1000ppm as the GL1500 engine was designed to have.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Ford%20Motor%20Company%20CK-4%20FA-4%20Position%20Statement.pdf
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

DragonRdr

Quote from: 98valk on Thu 30, Oct 2025, 19:39:45
if it doesn't meet Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1 it will not have zinc and phosphorus levels over 1000ppm as the GL1500 engine was designed to have.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Ford%20Motor%20Company%20CK-4%20FA-4%20Position%20Statement.pdf

Thanks for the input, I've decided to pass on the oil. I've been using T6 15w40 and I think I'll stick with it. I know it meets the Ford Spec.
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1994 Goldwing Interstate

98valk

Quote from: DragonRdr on Fri 31, Oct 2025, 10:38:20
Quote from: 98valk on Thu 30, Oct 2025, 19:39:45
if it doesn't meet Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1 it will not have zinc and phosphorus levels over 1000ppm as the GL1500 engine was designed to have.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Ford%20Motor%20Company%20CK-4%20FA-4%20Position%20Statement.pdf

Thanks for the input, I've decided to pass on the oil. I've been using T6 15w40 and I think I'll stick with it. I know it meets the Ford Spec.

:cooldude:
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Joe333x

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Quote from: DragonRdr on Fri 31, Oct 2025, 10:38:20
Quote from: 98valk on Thu 30, Oct 2025, 19:39:45
if it doesn't meet Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1 it will not have zinc and phosphorus levels over 1000ppm as the GL1500 engine was designed to have.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Ford%20Motor%20Company%20CK-4%20FA-4%20Position%20Statement.pdf

Thanks for the input, I've decided to pass on the oil. I've been using T6 15w40 and I think I'll stick with it. I know it meets the Ford Spec.

I use T6 15w40 as well, it's good oil. Just remember though as far as meeting a certain manufacturers specification the oil company pays to have the oil tested to meet the spec. The oil you posted about very well might meet or exceed zinc and phosphorus levels they just are probably not marketing the oil to run in a Ford. If you able to find a VOA of that oil and compare it to T6 VOA it would tell you more, BITOG is the site to find that stuff on if you want to go down an oil rabbit hole. More than likely though the oil is just fine for your valk if it's a motorcycle oil.

98valk

Quote from: Joe333x on Fri 31, Oct 2025, 11:04:14
Quote from: DragonRdr on Fri 31, Oct 2025, 10:38:20
Quote from: 98valk on Thu 30, Oct 2025, 19:39:45
if it doesn't meet Ford specification WSS-M2C171-F1 it will not have zinc and phosphorus levels over 1000ppm as the GL1500 engine was designed to have.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Ford%20Motor%20Company%20CK-4%20FA-4%20Position%20Statement.pdf

Thanks for the input, I've decided to pass on the oil. I've been using T6 15w40 and I think I'll stick with it. I know it meets the Ford Spec.

More than likely though the oil is just fine for your valk if it's a motorcycle oil.

sorry you are wrong again!
all recent motorcycle oils meet the latest (actually it was yrs ago) JASO spec which has lowered the zinc and phosphorus levels to protect the catalytic convertors per EPA regs., those levels are below what the GL1500 engine needs.
so a current motorcycle oil will not be fine for our valkyrie.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

mello dude

To be fair, no motorcycle oils are going to list a Ford spec, by that logic, AMSoil and Mobil 1 4T are no good.
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Joe333x

Quote from: mello dude on Sun 02, Nov 2025, 13:55:14
To be fair, no motorcycle oils are going to list a Ford spec, by that logic, AMSoil and Mobil 1 4T are no good.
Exactly, oil brands pay to have oil tested to meet a certain spec. If they are not marketing the oil to sell to people who own those vehicles, last I checked Ford doesn't have any motorcycles, why would a motorcycle oil brand pay to have a Ford spec on it. A motorcycle oil is going to be safe for wet clutches which is what matters.

Dirty Dave

May not be related but....

I'm always unimpressed with how watery 10/40 or the 15/40 in my Valk looks
when drained hot.
It's weird being the same age as old people