Insufficient Storage

[Serk]

Just a small update - Guest access has been turned on, and some other tweaks have been done behind the scenes while troubleshooting the issue. Possible hardware issue... 

Trying to get things stabilized, and once that's done will look at an upgrade path to a more modern version of the forum.

...but don't wanna try an upgrade of that magnitude while we're already on shaky ground.

[LadyDraco]

Yeah I couldn't  get in all day till now  ,a little  past midnight

[Jess from VA]

This is the first time I could get the site to work in days.   (Even early in the morning)

Whatever the problem, it's a pity it got so bad.

I missed talking with friends and staying in touch.

[LadyDraco]

Running other  sites  this  happens...
You just mut go with the  flow..
Knowing the  ones  who run it will work hard  to get it up and  running.
Sometimes  it takes  time.  And  also when it's  a  server issue  , the  powers that be .
Can only work how  fast the  server workers  work...

It is  what it is  and  will get fixed ...

[f6gal]

Our server dude told me one of the hard drives is acting wonky (quote).  He's not sure if that would cause our issues, but they are going to replace it.  I don't know yet when that will happen, but when it does, the site will be down for 30-45 minutes. 

[carolinarider09]

I understand the above.  And the site is responding much faster now than yesterday at this time.  And, just for the record, guests were listed as 3028.  But only three real people signed in.

Appreciate the work being done and it seems to have helped.  I hope things continue to improve.


Again, thanks to all who are working on this issue.   

Oops. I spoke to soon.  I got an insufficient storage message when I clicked post below.   But, I got back here fairly easily. 

[Willow]

Restrict all guest to cut down on bots.

We can't (or shouldn't) completely restrict all guests as new members need to access the homepage to register.  We can restrict guests from looking at various boards but the side impact of that is prospective members have nothing to look at to see that it would be worth their while to join.

[Hook#3287]

It's difficult to post with this Insufficient Storage issue.

I'm willing to help in any way possible, but having zero experience of web-site management, I have no idea how.

I'm sure others feel this way also.

[old2soon]

It's difficult to post with this Insufficient Storage issue.

I'm willing to help in any way possible, but having zero experience of web-site management, I have no idea how.

I'm sure others feel this way also.

     If SHOULD donations be Needed to update our web site I am IN and Down with that!!  I Truly ENJOY having access to our electronic clubhouse. And I'd Really rather NOT Lose it!  RIDE SAFE.

[Hook#3287]

yay, something happened. 

[Timbo1]

In a past life I was a system engineer responsible for designing, installing and managing the hardware and software for close to 200 domains foreign & domestic for transactional processing on numerous web farms. 

There should be no down time to replace a failing hard drive.  If they're using RAID & hot swap drives (like they should be) and are using  SNMP to monitor the hardware they should just unplug the failing drive and plug the new one in.

I don't know much about the platform or system configuration being used but if anyone wants it I'd be happy to help if I can,  just reach out to me.  One other idea that I didn't state in my earlier post would be to run a compact / repair on the database.

[f6gal]

Our server dude told me one of the hard drives is acting wonky (quote).  He's not sure if that would cause our issues, but they are going to replace it.  I don't know yet when that will happen, but when it does, the site will be down for 30-45 minutes.  

The hard drive was replaced late Friday.  Any current problems are unrelated to that.

[LadyDraco]

This  was  a  new  thing al day yesterday ...
Kept getting that, till midnight . And   said  ,I'm going to bed.



8: Undefined offset: 1
File: /home/valkyrie/public_html/bbs/Sources/Subs-Aeva-Admin.php
Line: 286

[old2soon]

     just about 2 hrs ago could NOT git in no matter what I tried!  Just now Easy Peasy!  Would that THIS lasts!  RIDE SAFE.

[Hook#3287]

IDK if it's related, but the number of "guests" has gone down considerably, while access is more normal.

[LadyDraco]

I keep getting this  90% of the  time  I  try to get in..


8: Undefined offset: 1
File: /home/valkyrie/public_html/bbs/Sources/Subs-Aeva-Admin.php
Line: 286

[old2soon]

I keep getting this  90% of the  time  I  try to get in..


8: Undefined offset: 1
File: /home/valkyrie/public_html/bbs/Sources/Subs-Aeva-Admin.php
Line: 286

      Earlier today I got in easy enough read some posts and wuz tryin to respond to a thread on the general board. Typed up my response hit send screen went white and insufficent storage reared it's ugly head Again!    as i'd mentioned to Serk today at times it feels like the screen just enjoys givin us the middle finger!  RIDE SAFE.

[carolinarider09]

Just a question. I looked at the number of users after I had some problems posting a reply.

The number of guests was around 1300 or so.

I looked at the number of users on line (4 I think) and saw there were two "hidden" (I think that was the term ) users.  I was not aware you could hide while you were signed in.  

Is there a "reason" to do this?

[Timbo1]

Just a question. I looked at the number of users after I had some problems posting a reply.

The number of guests as around 1300 or so.

I looked at the number of users on line (4 I think) and saw there were two "hidden" (I think that was the term ) users.  I was not aware you could hide while you were signed in. 

Is there a "reason" to do this?

I believe the Hidden is from an option in the user profile settings "Show others your online status?"  can be selected or deselected.

[LadyDraco]

Yes you can hide from view, It's in the account profile status.

[carolinarider09]

While I have have received this message more frequently in the last day, then before, today I had no issues.  

Yesterday and the day before I looked at the number of "guests" online it was about 600 and then yesterday, it was about 1,300 and today it's almost 2,000.  

I only make this statement because I was truly impressed that the number of "guests" dropped so low compared to what I had seen in previous weeks.

And I wondered what had been done to make this happen.  

With it going backup yesterday and today, it brings the question back up again.  

But I have had no issues using the site when I have used it today.  Yesterday, I did have issues.  Nothing major just had to reload the page several times to get bast the 'insufficient storage" thing.

Just my two cents.

[LadyDraco]

I couldn't get in all day..

404 Error file not found

And the Ohio BBS samething

[old2soon]

     Most But NOT all the time I could access the home page. Key on a specific board or post git kicked out and start all over again!  Just now ZERO issues gittin in and easy access-SO FAR!  RIDE SAFE.

[f6gal]

The forum seems to be working pretty well for now, with some occasional errors.  Serk has been (and still is) rooting around to help eliminate some issues (thanks, Serk). 

Ultimately, it will need a major overhaul/upgrade.  There are some inherent risks with that.  With InZane coming up, we will likely wait on that.   

[carolinarider09]

Had some issues but finally it allowed me to log in.  Just wanted to document that and the number of guests are now over 2,300.  That is up 300% from a few days ago when the number of guests was documented as less than 700. 

[Serk]

Had some issues but finally it allowed me to log in.  Just wanted to document that and the number of guests are now over 2,300.  That is up 300% from a few days ago when the number of guests was documented as less than 700. 

Yeah, been monitoring that as well. Had a few Insufficient Storage errors myself, and was monitoring the server resources while the error was happening - No constraints on the server at all... Plenty of disk, CPU and RAM even when it was throwing the error... Very frustrating...

[carolinarider09]

Yeah, been monitoring that as well. Had a few Insufficient Storage errors myself, and was monitoring the server resources while the error was happening - No constraints on the server at all... Plenty of disk, CPU and RAM even when it was throwing the error... Very frustrating...

While I am not an IT expert, (I did try and get a Computer Science Degree at USC in the 80's but they would not let us, the students, have night classes for JR&SR courses), it is possible, is it not, that, for some reason, we, the VRCC site, have generated some "ire" with the supplier?  In other words, targeted? 

[Timbo1]

Yeah, been monitoring that as well. Had a few Insufficient Storage errors myself, and was monitoring the server resources while the error was happening - No constraints on the server at all... Plenty of disk, CPU and RAM even when it was throwing the error... Very frustrating...

I've not had an undefined offset error in awhile & the 507 errors have improved significantly but have been happening occasionally.

Not sure what the OS the site is running and I'm mostly a Windows guy but maybe some of these idea's haven't been looked into yet.

Windows,
defrag, chkdsk / repair MFT if necessary.


I came across this (similar to MFT) that indicates it could be a source of out of resources for Unix / Linux.
Inode exhaustion   "This can happen even if there is still free disk space, leading to errors like "No space left on device"


Monitor Private bytes of all core process's to make sure there's no leaky process's
Monitor for max file size and review configuration of max file size settings
Repair / compact the DB
Verify no Quota is being hit

[hubcapsc]

Well, it seems to be resolved (or at least much better).  Fingers crossed. 

It seems like the VM or whatever the board runs on is out of disk space.
There's caches and logs that build up, perhaps they could be deleted?
Or something along those lines...

-Mike

[LadyDraco]

Yup the 507 is back

[F6Dave]

In some ways this all makes sense. We ride motorcycles that haven't been produced in 20+ years, with increasingly scarce parts. And we have a forum running on software that reached its end of life in 2018. Is it possible to upgrade the forum from SMF 1.1 to the current version, SMF 2.1?

[Serk]

In some ways this all makes sense. We ride motorcycles that haven't been produced in 20+ years, with increasingly scarce parts. And we have a forum running on software that reached its end of life in 2018. Is it possible to upgrade the forum from SMF 1.1 to the current version, SMF 2.1?

Yes, yes indeed it is. Took a lot of planning, work, fighting 100's of little bugs learning more about SQL databases than I ever cared to do but..... I think we're back on *KNOCK ON WOOD* stable ground again...


I considered saving the HTML for one of those Insufficient Storage errors just so I could randomly pop it back on during Halloween or something just to scare folks... 

[JimmyG]

Good job to all switching over to the new software. A thankless job sometimes

[F6Dave]

In some ways this all makes sense. We ride motorcycles that haven't been produced in 20+ years, with increasingly scarce parts. And we have a forum running on software that reached its end of life in 2018. Is it possible to upgrade the forum from SMF 1.1 to the current version, SMF 2.1?

Yes, yes indeed it is. Took a lot of planning, work, fighting 100's of little bugs learning more about SQL databases than I ever cared to do but..... I think we're back on *KNOCK ON WOOD* stable ground again...


I considered saving the HTML for one of those Insufficient Storage errors just so I could randomly pop it back on during Halloween or something just to scare folks... 

That sounds like so many projects. The first time takes forever because you have to research every issue you run into. But the next time you're done in a fraction of the time. Fortunately for our Valkyries you can check the tech pages on this site first to shorten the learning curve and avoid the headaches.

[carolinarider09]

I am making this post just to keep the team informed. 

I have had some trouble accessing the board today, mostly in opening a forum.  I am using a MacBook running MacOS Sequoia 15.7.7. 

Once I get a post to open, there are no issues in typing a comment but, sometimes when I hit the "POST" icon, there is a long delay before the screen refreshes. 

I looked at those on line and found the following:

Online: 4,099 Guests, 6 Users  - Most Online Today: 9,611 -  Most Online Ever: 50,777 (Sat 16, May 2026, 08:05:37)
Users active in past 15 minutes: carolinarider09, f6gal, Serk, Chrisj CMA, Alien, ddug50

So, we are back up to over 4,000 guests.  What I did not know (until I read the full statement above) was that on May 16, 2026 we had over 50,000 guests. 

I just looked the GL1800 Riders Forum which I frequent, and it had the following stats.

Total: 67 (members: 20, guests: 47)

Again, just information.  Not a complaint. 

[Timbo1]

I've noticed slow response on a couple occasions but no errors.  I chalked it up to tasks running on the database or possibly some maint routine or momentary locks on the database.  Can you expand on what you mean by "I have had some trouble accessing the board today, mostly in opening a forum"?

[Serk]

Appreciate the updates.... I've been monitoring the new site pretty closely and have noted the occasional reluctance for a page to come up, but nothing beyond what I'd find on any site.

Besides having the underlying LAMP stack massively updated (Software) the hardware running the site has been supercharged as well (Much newer CPUs and more of them. )

I've kept a terminal to the host running top (Linux system monitor) and even when we're getting crawled with thousands of bots (Guests) the system utilization rarely exceeds 20% on the new setup.

[Timbo1]

Appreciate the updates.... I've been monitoring the new site pretty closely and have noted the occasional reluctance for a page to come up, but nothing beyond what I'd find on any site.

Besides having the underlying LAMP stack massively updated (Software) the hardware running the site has been supercharged as well (Much newer CPUs and more of them. )

I've kept a terminal to the host running top (Linux system monitor) and even when we're getting crawled with thousands of bots (Guests) the system utilization rarely exceeds 20% on the new setup.

Response time hasn't been a problem for me yet but on occasion I have counted 12 sec or so before getting a response.

 I wouldn't expect HTTP Post or Get responses to consume much in resources but with a high concurrent sessions it could impact the DB with waits or locks even though utilization is low on the server. And I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've seen DB problems when the servers were under 10% utilization to have the DBA find a Lock. I'm no DBA but if the response times get worse or more persistent it may be a good idea to look into some of the free SQL monitoring tools to watch for Locks.  If nothing else that would help eliminate the DB as a source of the issue.