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Exhaust Mod Question with the Ragner Cut

Started by DFragn, Wed 26, May 2010, 22:04:43

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DFragn

I have an intact OEM Exhaust and a pair of additional intact rear baffles to be used as silencers when wanted. Also a set of 18" 4" cans/tips.

I seem to read a conflict or I'm just misunderstanding the Ragner Mod web site.

If I leave the front OE baffle 100% intact and only fully open up the rear baffle do I even slightly require needle shimming?

I don't mind needle adjustments. But, the problem is I would prefer to slip the silencers in the tips on a whim without having to adjust the needles each time I do insert or remove the silencers.

If an intact forward baffle only requires needle shimming I'll likely not pursue the mod, but I would like too!

Warlock

Quote from: DFragn on Wed 26, May 2010, 22:04:43
I have an intact OEM Exhaust and a pair of additional intact rear baffles to be used as silencers when wanted. Also a set of 18" 4" cans/tips.

I seem to read a conflict or I'm just misunderstanding the Ragner Mod web site.

If I leave the front OE baffle 100% intact and only fully open up the rear baffle do I even slightly require needle shimming?

I don't mind needle adjustments. But, the problem is I would prefer to slip the silencers in the tips on a whim without having to adjust the needles each time I do insert or remove the silencers.

If an intact forward baffle only requires needle shimming I'll likely not pursue the mod, but I would like too!
As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

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Larry

Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25
As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

Off topic, sort of  ;D , appologies to DFragn.
Hi Warlock, just curious where you set your pilots at? I ride an IS with a 4 degree TW. I just switched out the 35's for 38's and am putting in the Dial-a-Jet system, so I also switched out the slock mains for 95's. I was running lean before. I set my pilots to 1.75 and once I put it all together again I'll test out to see what the plugs look like. TIA Larry
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DFragn

Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25

As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

I'm running the 38's, an I/S ICM, I/S Springs & the ECT advance mod [which I rarely use, has the pot] with stock needles on a '97 Tourer.

I do have on hand a set of 5 position E-Clip needles, I think they're 5 slots if I remember.

I'm guessing your on the 3rd position from the top if they're adjustable? 
Why do you feel comfortable running the after market needles with your setup?
Would you feel it's a good idea for me to re-install my adjustable needles if I leave the front baffles alone and slip the silencers in every now & then for awhile?

DFragn

Quote from: Larry on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:29:10
Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25
As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

Off topic, sort of  ;D , appologies to DFragn.
Hi Warlock, just curious where you set your pilots at? I ride an IS with a 4 degree TW. I just switched out the 35's for 38's and am putting in the Dial-a-Jet system, so I also switched out the slock mains for 95's. I was running lean before. I set my pilots to 1.75 and once I put it all together again I'll test out to see what the plugs look like. TIA Larry

Not a problem.

I just opened up my pilots a quarter turn to 1.75 [sans Dial-A-Jet] as I was a little lean. I haven't checked the plugs since but it starts and cold idles better now. Mileage is still the same. Throttle response seems a little better, but that could be my imagination.
I could be wrong, but I don't think the pilots affect the mains...

Warlock

Quote from: DFragn on Thu 27, May 2010, 01:04:33
Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25

As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

I'm running the 38's, an I/S ICM, I/S Springs & the ECT advance mod [which I rarely use, has the pot] with stock needles on a '97 Tourer.

I do have on hand a set of 5 position E-Clip needles, I think they're 5 slots if I remember.

I'm guessing your on the 3rd position from the top if they're adjustable? 
Why do you feel comfortable running the after market needles with your setup?
Would you feel it's a good idea for me to re-install my adjustable needles if I leave the front baffles alone and slip the silencers in every now & then for awhile?
Well to tell the truth I don't have any stock needles. Thinking about ordering some since they are having a 10% sell at DLP. I really like the stock needles better.
David

I don't want to hear the labor pains, I just want to see the baby

Warlock

Quote from: Larry on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:29:10
Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25
As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

Off topic, sort of  ;D , appologies to DFragn.
Hi Warlock, just curious where you set your pilots at? I ride an IS with a 4 degree TW. I just switched out the 35's for 38's and am putting in the Dial-a-Jet system, so I also switched out the slock mains for 95's. I was running lean before. I set my pilots to 1.75 and once I put it all together again I'll test out to see what the plugs look like. TIA Larry
I'm running at 1.5, but going to go to 1.75. Still a little lean at 1.5. Thinking about installing stock needles also.
David

I don't want to hear the labor pains, I just want to see the baby

DFragn

Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 08:59:03
Quote from: DFragn on Thu 27, May 2010, 01:04:33
Quote from: Warlock on Thu 27, May 2010, 00:09:25

As long as you leave the front baffles along you don't have to shim the needles. I'm running this on my 98 standard, but I run after market needles, 6 degree trigger wheel, I/S springs, and #38 slow jets.
David

I'm running the 38's, an I/S ICM, I/S Springs & the ECT advance mod [which I rarely use, has the pot] with stock needles on a '97 Tourer.

I do have on hand a set of 5 position E-Clip needles, I think they're 5 slots if I remember.

I'm guessing your on the 3rd position from the top if they're adjustable? 
Why do you feel comfortable running the after market needles with your setup?
Would you feel it's a good idea for me to re-install my adjustable needles if I leave the front baffles alone and slip the silencers in every now & then for awhile?
Well to tell the truth I don't have any stock needles. Thinking about ordering some since they are having a 10% sell at DLP. I really like the stock needles better.
David

Thanks for your help Warlock  :cooldude: