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Center Stand Question

Started by Skinhead, Thu 22, Jul 2010, 07:27:58

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Skinhead

Highbinder posted "I learned that a stock 1500 Goldwing centerstand will bolt right up to a valk and will not drag in the curves.. "
in his gathering of the fools post.  Has anyone here done this?  Do you just need the stand or mounts as well?  Any Pics?

Thanks in advance.

Skinny

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

JimC

I agree,

After reading that post I checked ebay and found one for 9.99 so I bought it figuring that there would be some type of tech session on installing it in the future.

Com-on highbinder, inquiring minds need to know!

Jim

Jim Callaghan    SE Wisconsin

98valk

this was brought up on the old board a few times. check the archives.  what u will find is that the GW CS will not work without major frame work and/or to the CS itself. Rivco is the only one that works.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

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JimC

CA,
You are missing the point, highbinder said that he HAD SEEN a 1500 goldwing center stand mounted on a Valk.

There is quite a difference between a used 9.99 goldwing center stand, and a $450 stand from Rivco so I would never expect it to bolt right up. Saving $400 would be worth some fabricating, quite a bit of fabricating actually.

Some people will not mount anything onto their bikes that is not specifically made for it, and I understand that. I on the other hand am inherently cheep, so I was just hoping that someone had seen the mount, or done the mounting would answer the post so I did not have to re-invent the wheel.
Jim
Jim Callaghan    SE Wisconsin

98valk

JimC, understand. old posts just stated that a lot of work would be required and machined parts would be required.
I like to be frugal also. want low price tube toppers for the black section btwn the intake manifold and carb, chrome sink drain tube from HD. also used it for the black rubber on turn signals
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Highbinder

#5
Get a hold of Hayhauler down in Texas, he knows the guy that has one one his tourer....I looked under and didn't see any frame mods, but I didn't exactly go over it with a fine tooth comb...the guy who did it is a VRCC member and came from Venezuela and had built his Valk from a basket case...but check with Hayhauler he can get you in touch with the guy.. :cooldude:  I just remembered, he goes by the handle Bam Bam first name Jose..heck of a nice guy and willing to help with information..

Skinhead


Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Walküre


And Skinny - please keep us posted! I am interested in doing the same thing. I have a buddy who has a 1500 Wing, who's going to bring it to work, so I can see what it would take, but he hurt his back badly, and thinks he won't be riding the rest of the season...

Thanks,

R
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

roboto65

Ok just got off the phone with Bam Bam and he is going to try and send me some pics this weekend of the setup for you all hope this will help everyone out that wants to try this out  :cooldude:
Allen Rugg                                                       
VRCC #30806
1999 Illusion Blue Valkyrie Interstate
1978 Kawasaki KZ 650 project

Walküre

Quote from: roboto65 on Wed 28, Jul 2010, 12:56:06
Ok just got off the phone with Bam Bam and he is going to try and send me some pics this weekend of the setup for you all hope this will help everyone out that wants to try this out  :cooldude:

Allen - that's great, and thanks!!

I have a fairly extensive shop, and might be able to produce some piece-parts, if they are fairly simple, and necessary. Guess we'll know more, when we see it. Of course, once everyone hits up Pinwall, the price on 1500 center stands will go through the roof!!

;D
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

HayHauler

Quote from: roboto65 on Wed 28, Jul 2010, 12:56:06
Ok just got off the phone with Bam Bam and he is going to try and send me some pics this weekend of the setup for you all hope this will help everyone out that wants to try this out  :cooldude:

Thanks Allen.  I didn't know how to get in touch with Bam Bam and was about to send him a PM...

Hay  8)
Jimmyt
VRCC# 28963

Skinhead

Thanks guys,

For getting on this and posting info.  I'll stay out of the way and wait for the info/pics to come in.  This thread can be info central.

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Highbinder

Anymore info on this topic yet?  I found Bam Bam's phone number afrter I posted...I guess it wasn't Hayhauler who gave it to me, that's the second time I've mixed him up with someone else, sorry Jim :)

roboto65

Bambam said he was gonna get pics last weekend he must have been busy. Highlander if you want call him. I will see him around the 21st or so but that is a ways off.
Allen Rugg                                                       
VRCC #30806
1999 Illusion Blue Valkyrie Interstate
1978 Kawasaki KZ 650 project

tank_post142

i have a c stand on the way from pinwall. i'll let you know what it looks like when it shows up.
I got a rock :(
VRCCDS0246 

tybme

Any updates for this topic?
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways. totally worn out, shouting, "Holy ****... What a Ride!"


JimC

Bumping this back to the top in hopes that it will not be forgotten.
Thanks
Jim
Jim Callaghan    SE Wisconsin

tank_post142

i have the stand. its too hot out to crawl under the bike right now.
I got a rock :(
VRCCDS0246 

Skinhead

I just emailed BamBam and asked him to post some pics and text about the install.

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

BudMan

Hey Allan, is that the same Bam Bam from MOOT?
Buddy
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MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
1948 EL Harley
2013 F6B Delux
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Skinhead

I got this reply from BamBam:

Hey Skinhead,

  Yes I have the Goldwing 1500 centerstand on my Valkyrie Tourer but I didn'd do the job. I bought it on ebay and work perfect
on the Valk with no mods. The guy that sold it to me told me that was from a 1500 Goldwing but nothing else. I can take some pictures
from under the bike later this week and email them to you on the weekend. The only work is remove the bolt that holds the side stand and put the center stand and reinstall the side stand on top of center stand since both will use the same bolt to the frame. It took me
about 40 min  using the motorcycle jack .


Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

tank_post142

I got a rock :(
VRCCDS0246 

Rocketman

Quote from: tank_post142 on Tue 17, Aug 2010, 20:48:26
http://hondaparts-direct.com/fiche_section_detail.asp

Your link goes to the parts front page.  I dislike websites that get too fancy, and make it hard to link directly to a page, but parts fiche almost always do that.

Rio Wil

Quote from: Skinhead on Tue 17, Aug 2010, 17:20:24
I got this reply from BamBam:

Hey Skinhead,

  Yes I have the Goldwing 1500 centerstand on my Valkyrie Tourer but I didn'd do the job. I bought it on ebay and work perfect
on the Valk with no mods. The guy that sold it to me told me that was from a 1500 Goldwing but nothing else. I can take some pictures
from under the bike later this week and email them to you on the weekend. The only work is remove the bolt that holds the side stand and put the center stand and reinstall the side stand on top of center stand since both will use the same bolt to the frame. It took me
about 40 min  using the motorcycle jack .



Me thinks there is a terminology issue here, there seems to be a mix up between a center stand and a kick stand......here is a picture of a kickstand and how it is mounted to the frame crossbar.  Here is a pic of the schematic of a '99 GW center stand also.......can't be done easily!!!






Notice the mounting method of the two parts are vastly different.




CB1

Thanks!
Chris

BF

I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



Walküre

I'm really thinking that the description is of the "adapter" that is available on ebay, as that is EXACTLY how it is installed - loosen the bolts that hold the kick stand, put the adapter between the kickstand and crossmember, tighten the bolts, and it makes it very easy to use a standard motorcycle jack on the Valk. Took me about 35 minutes, instead of 40, though... :D

I could be wrong, but that's my take on it. I'm still interested in trying to figure out a way to make a 1500 Wing one, work.

R
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

bradnw

So no pics or new information on this topic?
VRCC 31716

gordonv

#28
Anyone have an underside picture of a GW GL1500 as a comparision to the Valk?
1999 Black with custom paint IS


Walküre

Quote from: gordonv on Sun 31, Oct 2010, 14:11:36
Anyone have an underside picture of a GW GL1500 as a comparision to the Valk?

Gordon - I took some pics of a buddy's here at work. Totally different, I can't see ANY way of making the Wing stand work, without some pretty darn serious mods. I stopped at that point. Since you bought your bike back, you might be able to play with the frame a lot more than I would, because you could make mistakes, without compromising the integrity, until you got it down pat. If I had a "spare" frame laying around, wrecked, I'd be seriously playing with installing one. I still like the idea...

If you send me an email, I'll send you the pics I have - they aren't really great, would be nicer on a lift, but they get the idea across, pretty well, especially alongside the microfiche pics.

Roger
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

Skinhead


Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Warlock

Quote from: Skinhead on Sun 31, Oct 2010, 19:22:12
I haven't heard a thing.
I have a Interstate in my shop right now with a 1500 center stand on it. I will take a few pictures tomorrow and try and post it. Looks from what I can see is a new type of mounting bracket to be built.
David

I don't want to hear the labor pains, I just want to see the baby

tank_post142

my measuring says that you basically have to build the upper half of a rivco center stand and the fab mounts on it for your 1500 lower. not hard but it will take a little time. can someone post pics and measurements of their upper mount from rivco?
I got a rock :(
VRCCDS0246 

Walküre

Here are links to pictures of the Goldwing 1500 center stand on a 1500 wing. Took them of a buddies at work...

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/01.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/02.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/03.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/04.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/05.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/06.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/07.jpg

http://crbest.com/valkyrie/wingstand/08.jpg

You can right-click and "save as" if you want the pictures...

I have even bigger pictures, if you want them, just email me, and I'll send them.

Roger
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

tybme

You know everyone thinks of the gl1500 center stands but never mentions any of the other goldwing models. I have a 1200 here at the house now for tear down - I'll have to check it out maybe one of the other models would be closer.
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways. totally worn out, shouting, "Holy ****... What a Ride!"


Walküre

Quote from: tybme on Tue 02, Nov 2010, 18:50:32
You know everyone thinks of the gl1500 center stands but never mentions any of the other goldwing models. I have a 1200 here at the house now for tear down - I'll have to check it out maybe one of the other models would be closer.

I think availability has a lot to do with it. When I was looking for the centerstand for my 1200, because they were hard to find, they were going for around $200. Can't remember why, maybe most didn't come with centerstands? Might check with availability  and price at pinwall before pursuing that one too far
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

tybme

Oh I won't purchase until I know for sure. A couple friends and I buy goldwings and part them out for trip money. I have a 1200 here now.
The center stand was stock on the 1100 1200 1500 and 1800's - that I am sure of. I dont know about the 1000.
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways. totally worn out, shouting, "Holy ****... What a Ride!"


Pete