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final drive issue

Started by dipstick, Sat 11, Sep 2010, 07:27:14

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dipstick

When riding the bike clunked a couple times in the drive train, so I pulled over, now it wont move at all. When you put it in gear and let out the clutch it just goes clickity click. I'm gonna tear it down later this weekend but am just wondering the best source for final drive parts. I have already spoken to someone much more familiar with this problem than I am and have got some good info already but I just wanted to pu it up here. The motor still runs fine and is definately a driveline problem, any additional ionfo would be great, thanks.

MP

Probably a u-joint.  Maybe splines/pinion cup on driveshaft.

You will need to get a used ujoint from pinwall or elsewhere, as new ones from Honda are backordered, with delivery expected in Feb. of 11, if I remember right.

MP

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hubcapsc


Sounds a lot like the pinion cup... hopefully you won't need a currently hard-to-get u-joint.

Good luck...

Your dealer$ probably a fast place for new parts, Honda Direct Line
is a good on-line place...

-Mike

Sodbuster

Out of curiosity .... how many miles on the bike ??
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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: Sodbuster on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 07:41:59
Out of curiosity .... how many miles on the bike ??

more importantly...how many miles since the last drive shaft lube?

dipstick

45,000 on bike and right at 9,000 since last rear end service.

I have looked on pinwheel and cannot find the used parts link, what am I missing??

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Earl in Pensacola

Seems like in the not too distance past, someone on this site had confirmed that the U-jiont of a speciific year of the goldwind will fit.

dipstick

Quote from: Earl in Pensacola on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 11:43:00
Seems like in the not too distance past, someone on this site had confirmed that the U-jiont of a speciific year of the goldwind will fit.
That would be nice if thats the problem cuz Pinwheel doesnt have any of the related parts that I could find.

sandy

Quote from: Earl in Pensacola on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 11:43:00
Seems like in the not too distance past, someone on this site had confirmed that the U-jiont of a speciific year of the goldwind will fit.

All 1500 Wing U joints will interchange. Try a trike shop for one with the OEMs not available.

Sodbuster

If you search for BikeBandit part number 644090 you'll find that it fits ALL 1500cc Honda Goldwings AND Valkyries .... and in case your wondering they are on back order also.
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dipstick

Quote from: Sodbuster on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 16:43:54
If you search for BikeBandit part number 644090 you'll find that it fits ALL 1500cc Honda Goldwings AND Valkyries .... and in case your wondering they are on back order also.


Thanks, I kinda figured that would be the case.

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

Quote from: dipstick on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 08:34:57
45,000 on bike and right at 9,000 since last rear end service.

I have looked on pinwheel and cannot find the used parts link, what am I missing??

Did you pull the drive-shaft out of the final drive and check it 9,000 miles ago also or just lube the splines ?


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Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 19:52:52
Quote from: dipstick on Sat 11, Sep 2010, 08:34:57
45,000 on bike and right at 9,000 since last rear end service.

I have looked on pinwheel and cannot find the used parts link, what am I missing??

Did you pull the drive-shaft out of the final drive and check it 9,000 miles ago also or just lube the splines ?
+1......................
I had a PERFECT final drive hub, nicely lubed no sign of wear & a driveshaft/pinion cup all torn to heck about ready to fail.
Checking the d/s & pinion cup WILL be the new routine at every tire change!
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Ricky-D

Hard to tell exactly how bad the parts are since they are so crummy with junk.

It looks like the drive shaft is pretty bad however.

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I'ld bet you a dollar to donut that the pinon cup is stripped out. Easy fix less than a $100 to repair. Mine did the same thing one morning going to work.

dipstick

All I did 9,00 miles ago was to grease the splines, was not aware of the pinion cup issue. What exactly is the pinion cup of which you all speak? I cant find it in any parts listings. Is it the tranny end of the driveshaft? My mechanic is gonna pull it apart tommorow.

Thanks again for all the help.

hubcapsc

Quote from: dipstick on Sun 12, Sep 2010, 20:36:55
All I did 9,00 miles ago was to grease the splines, was not aware of the pinion cup issue. What exactly is the pinion cup of which you all speak? I cant find it in any parts listings. Is it the tranny end of the driveshaft? My mechanic is gonna pull it apart tommorow.

Thanks again for all the help.

The drive shaft jambs into the universal at the engine, and into the pinion cup at the wheel...

-Mike

dipstick

Quote from: hubcapsc on Sun 12, Sep 2010, 20:47:14
Quote from: dipstick on Sun 12, Sep 2010, 20:36:55
All I did 9,00 miles ago was to grease the splines, was not aware of the pinion cup issue. What exactly is the pinion cup of which you all speak? I cant find it in any parts listings. Is it the tranny end of the driveshaft? My mechanic is gonna pull it apart tommorow.

Thanks again for all the help.

The drive shaft jambs into the universal at the engine, and into the pinion cup at the wheel...

-Mike


Thanks

Jay

I just pulled mine apart friday.  U-joint, propeller shaft and pinion joint are toast.  All parts are available except for the u-joint, backordered until Feb 2011.  WTF? 

Does anyone know if the u-joint yoke can be machined so that the u-joint can be replaced?

Earl in Pensacola

Has anyone actually CONFIRMED that all 1500 Wing U-joints will enterchange with the OEM Valk U-joint??   If it's true, I just can't believe that all the wing U-joints are on back order too!!  I'll be changing my rear tire in a couple more months and have already ordered new dampers + inserts and brake pads.  After 9/25 (next billing cycle) I'll be ordering a new U-joint.  This will be my fourth U-joint.  However, the bike has 226K on her now.  I want to do everything at the same time.

dipstick

Well I still have not torn apart my rear end to see whats wrong but I was blessed in that a local trike shope had a complete 2001 Valk rear end he sold me REAL cheap. It is complete with a new metz tire swingarm, brake caliper, rotor and everything. So I hope Im good now and will have a spare from now on.