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ross spoonland lift?

Started by YoungPUP, Sun 24, Oct 2010, 08:53:50

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YoungPUP

so where can i get a ross lift adqaptor for my floor jack?
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99 STD (Under construction)

BF

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I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



YoungPUP

Ok. Maybe I used the wrong name? Or does Ross have one that will work with a regular floor jack? I'm trying to eliminate some clutter and my motorcycle jack is a big piece of that.
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008

 I've seen the one your talking about but not for a very long time. I have the one at the bottom of the page that bolt to the bottom of the kickstand bracket. I really like it.

Thunderbolt

best $$ I have spent for the bike.  You can lift the bike and take off either wheel and it is still stable.  I sent him an email, maybe he will respond.

Walküre

Quote from: YoungPUP on Sun 24, Oct 2010, 12:14:01
Ok. Maybe I used the wrong name? Or does Ross have one that will work with a regular floor jack? I'm trying to eliminate some clutter and my motorcycle jack is a big piece of that.

Did I miss something, or slip a cog? The first link, above, is for the one that works with a motorcycle jack, however, if you go to that page, there's a link for building your own, on a regular floor jack. Here's the picture of it, on a regular floor jack, and the link for the DIY page. Wouldn't be hard to make, if you know someone that can weld one together for you, or you have the welder...it also looks like for the $70 or so, Ross can make it fit the regular jack, but don't quote me on that. I says "other jacks", but not sure if he means motorcycle jacks, or regular floor jacks.



http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/build_adapter.htm

If I'm redundant, my apologies...

R
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...


BigM

I wouldn't recommend raising your Valk with the one arm floor jack. Wouldn't be balanced or stable. I wouldn't EVEN attempt it with mine. I value my Valk to much. Looks like a good way to Definitely Drop your bike ( if not side to side but frt. to bk.) That is why you may not be able to find that type of an adapter.  But thats just my two cents.

Hoghead

I have designed a couple of them. Look at my thread about adapters for auto lift.
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BigM

#9

Airetime

Quote from: YoungPUP on Sun 24, Oct 2010, 08:53:50
so where can i get a ross lift adqaptor for my floor jack?

Buy it, make it or go to ebay and type valkyrie adaptor and two tgypes will pop up, the original and the newer one that stays on the Valk. I used Spoonland for years but switched to the newer style that stays on the Valk and like the idea that I can be away on the road and still use it.

Jeff K

I made one and used it all the time until I got my Larin lift, And now that is pretty much a garage decoration since I got my table lift.


Walküre

If you have the ability and tools to fabricate an adapter, it won't take much more ingenuity to make "outriggers" for your standard floor jack, to increase stability. I actually have a set I made, for my motorcycle jack, because I want it REALLY stable. I doubt it would have trouble, without the outriggers, but I KNOW it won't go anywhere, with them. With a set on a standard floor jack, I don't think you'd have any problem whatsoever.

R

2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

BF

A regular set of automotive jack stands works great to stablize a Valk.  A couple under the engine guards works great for that purpose.  I've even had my bike sitting on a set of four of them for a couple weeks while I worked on it......two under the engine guards and two under the swingarm.  Bike was rock solid like that. 
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



Walküre

Quote from: BF on Tue 26, Oct 2010, 20:24:58
A regular set of automotive jack stands works great to stablize a Valk.  A couple under the engine guards works great for that purpose.

Well, I did it tonight - wasn't the "plan", but loosened a bolt, so I could put a jam-nut on my hitch mount, and you know how it is - one thing leads to another...

I used the stands under the guard, still there for safety. If you look close, you'll notice that they are color-matched, to the bike (look a little orange, but they are red and black!)!!! Nothing but the best...



R
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

Walküre

Quote from: BigM on Mon 25, Oct 2010, 12:53:23
I wouldn't recommend raising your Valk with the one arm floor jack. Wouldn't be balanced or stable. Looks like a good way to Definitely Drop your bike ( if not side to side but frt. to bk.).

Tim R, has designed and built some interesting lift stuff, for our bikes. One of his other projects is the tire changer, on one of my other threads, but this one is just as great. He gave permission for use here.

The first pic is the jack with outrigger mods, along with the stand he built. The top of the stand is the adapter for the bike. It mounts securely to the bike, and has a place for the standard floor jack. I haven't asked, so I'm not sure how it goes on the jack, but hopefully he'll chime in here. The adapter then sets on the stand, and has several bolts from underneath to hold it. In HIS words:

QuoteTo answer your question no the lift adapter is not welded to the cart, but it is bolted to it from bottom up. I attach the adapter to the bike raise the bike and then set it on the stand/cart, but attach it with 2 bolts one on each end. When it is up on the stand/cart you could sit on it, climb on it or do what ever you want. I even store the bike over the winter on this stand, so the suspension is unloaded and the tires do not get flat spots from sitting for 5 months at a time. Heck I even start it and run it when it is on the stand during the winter just to keep the fluids moved around once in awhile.



The 2nd and 3rd picture are close-ups of the stand and adapter - you can see that Tim built in adjustment from side to side, allowing for the balance to be adjusted, depending on where it needs to be, as things are being taken off the bike. Again, in his words:

QuoteI like mine because with my mod I was able to adjust the balance point while lifting the bike and once it was on the cart then it did not matter what you took off the bike stayed right where it was mounted to the cart.





Thinking very seriously about building a stand - I like the idea of keeping the bike off the tires through winter, but not leaving it on the lift. I'll have to figure out how to do it with my "stay-in-place" adapter, or build a new one. One more winter project!

Thanks again, Tim. It never ceases to amaze me, the myriad of talent here on the forums...

Roger
2000 Valkyrie Standard
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2000 HD Dyna Wide Glide FXDWG

Roger Phillips
Oxford, IN
VRCC #31978

Yeah, what she said...

Tim R

#16
Yep!
  That is my lift adapter, jack and cart all right. Thanks for putting up the pics for me Roger. To better explain it, yes the lift adapter I built locks to the floor jack with a heavy pin that goes in place of the stock pad for the jack. First you attach the lift adapter to the bottom of the bike just like Ross Spoonland adapter for a floor jack. Then position and lift jack into place engaging the pin with the jack once the bike is vertical and the pin locks into the jack all is good. You then lift just enough to see if changes are needed for the balance and adjust as needed, Note not all valkyries will have the same balance point do to options such as with or without bags , fairing or windshield, or trunk or no trunk, as in Standard, Tourer, or Interstate.  I can not take all of the credit Ross inspired me with his design I just tried to improve it by adding the balance adjustment capability into his original design. And then making it ultra stable by setting the whole works on a cart and bolting it on as well, so it could not go anywhere once you start to work on it. The outriggers for the jack really are not needed because if it is balanced properly when you lift it there is no problems, most of the jacks that are used for this are rated 2 1/2 or 3 ton. I only made the outriggers for added piece of mind, they are a simple design that  is made up of 2 pieces of tubing joined together under the jack with a piece of 1/4" flat steel and are bolted to each side of the jack which did require drilling and tapping 2 holes in the heavy steel frame of the jack, no big deal. I have made a couple of these for friends and they love them. Any questions please feel free to ask and if anyone wants better pictures let me or Roger know and I can make it happen. Have a Great Day    Tim R

YoungPUP

Alright i'm going to weld one of thesetogether now that  I need it, I found the measurements in shoptalk  all of them except the one for the  placement of the plate with the jack post.  Any help?
Yea though I ride through the valley of the Shadow of Death I shall fear no evil. For I ride the Baddest Mother F$#^er In that valley!

99 STD (Under construction)

Jess from VA

My simple wooden one has served me perfectly for two interstates for years......

Tim R

Quote from: YoungPUP on Mon 21, Feb 2011, 17:41:20
Alright i'm going to weld one of thesetogether now that  I need it, I found the measurements in shoptalk  all of them except the one for the  placement of the plate with the jack post.  Any help?


Hi Youngpup,
Walkure posted pictures of my lift adapter and stand that I built, it is based on the Ross Spoonland lift adapter design. If you look close you should be able to see that the plate on mine is adjustable for balance. I have pieces all cut to make another one right now out in my shop. I have made several of these and have changed the design a bit on the last ones, but all in all it works the same. You will see also in the pictures Walkure posted that I also use a cart/stand to set the bike with lift adapter attached, on when I work on it and store it over the winter, as I find it way more stable than just a floor jack even though the floor jack is fine also. I just like to have the use of my floor jack all winter you see, not just to store the bike on. Any questions feel free to email me I think you can find my email address in my profile.
Later
Tim R

kyrie6

#20
This one will work on all Valks , all m/c two arm type jacks and all exhausts. Very secure,sturdy and safe.Could weld a plate on btm. of it to use with one arm type floor jack if thats what you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LOOK-VALKYRIE-HONDA-ORIG-RIVCO-JACK-ADAPTER-/170608416168?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b90dd5a8