More foot in mouth, this time in Alabama...

[Bobbo]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/alabama-governor-apologizes-controversial-mlk-speech/

[fudgie]

People should never have to appoligize for what they say about their own personal beliefs.

[R J]

People should never have to appoligize for what they say about their own personal beliefs.

I don't care who you are, there is going to be someone who takes offense to your remarks.

Screw em, we can't take offense to their remarks....    Like WHITE BOY, YANKEE and etc.


Who gives a rat's arse what they say, like it or lump it, and don't be gettin down and praying in the street, that is what churchs are for.

This country is going to 4377 in a wicker basket......    We thought the radicals were bad in the 60's, these are mucho worse.

[Bobbo]

People should never have to appoligize for what they say about their own personal beliefs.

If people wouldn't elect narrow-minded politicians, they wouldn't have to.

[Chrisj CMA]

I can almost remember the day........when it became important to NOT ever be offended and it was my responsibilty to NOT offend you.  Before that day if you stood up and said you were offended EVERYONE would say "so what!" "get in line and get over it!"

That Governer could have worded that better...(I I fully believe HE SHOULD HAVE), but unless you are a 4 year old you know what he meant.........but its news if large groups of people are now offended.........geez-O-whiz

[Spirited-6]

This country is going to 4377 in a wicker basket....

RJ, what does "4377" mean ??? Sorry for 'dumb" .
TA.

[Willow]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

Couldn't that be said of any elected official?  Really?  Really?  Well, of course, except for those who are elected with a 100% vote.    

How thin skinned does someone have to be to be offended by someone saying he or she isn't his brother or sister?  Just so there's no misunderstanding, I don't consider everyone on earth to be my parents' children either.

[hubcapsc]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/alabama-governor-apologizes-controversial-mlk-speech/

Hi Bobbo... you messed up and only posted a link that had quotes from Bentley where he pointed out
that saved people are brothers and sisters in Christ.  Could you repost and supply the link where he said something
about not representing all people?

He was speaking at a Church at a Pastor Martin Luther King memorial, BTW...

Thanks...

-Mike

[Kaiser]

This country is going to 4377 in a wicker basket....

RJ, what does "4377" mean ??? Sorry for 'dumb" .
TA.

Type it into a calculator backwards (7734) and then turn the calculator upside-down.

[R J]

This country is going to 4377 in a wicker basket....

RJ, what does "4377" mean ??? Sorry for 'dumb" .
TA.

Turn it over and hold it up to a mirror..........   H E 'DOUBLE TOOTHPICKS',

[Jeff K]

The world is coming to an end. Bobbo has posted a link to Fox news as "fact"!   

[Bobbo]

The world is coming to an end. Bobbo has posted a link to Fox news as "fact"!   

I can't help it that every other news source is considered invalid here!   

[Big Rig]

4377....H E L L O without  the OH...Om Offended!!!

[Bobbo]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

Couldn't that be said of any elected official?  Really?  Really?  Well, of course, except for those who are elected with a 100% vote.    

How thin skinned does someone have to be to be offended by someone saying he or she isn't his brother or sister?  Just so there's no misunderstanding, I don't consider everyone on earth to be my parents' children either.

This isn't a matter of offending anyone; it is a matter of a public official that holds certain people in higher esteem.  No elected official represents the views of every one of their constituents, but the are charged with upholding their rights and equal treatment under the law.  I question someone's ability to do this if they make statements like that.  If President Obama said he considered only black Muslims his brothers and sisters, the conservatives would be foaming at the mouth in disdain.  (As well they should)

[hubcapsc]

President Obama said he considered only black Muslims his brothers and sisters, the conservatives would be foaming at the mouth in disdain

Bobbo... so would his preacher, what with him not being a Muslim  ...

So.. are you, or are you not, Gov. Bentley's Brother in Christ?

-Mike

[Jeff K]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

Couldn't that be said of any elected official?  Really?  Really?  Well, of course, except for those who are elected with a 100% vote.    

How thin skinned does someone have to be to be offended by someone saying he or she isn't his brother or sister?  Just so there's no misunderstanding, I don't consider everyone on earth to be my parents' children either.

This isn't a matter of offending anyone; it is a matter of a public official that holds certain people in higher esteem.  No elected official represents the views of every one of their constituents, but the are charged with upholding their rights and equal treatment under the law.  I question someone's ability to do this if they make statements like that.  If President Obama said he considered only black Muslims his brothers and sisters, the conservatives would be foaming at the mouth in disdain.  (As well they should)

He did refer to republicans as "the enemy"

[Bobbo]

Hi Bobbo... you messed up and only posted a link that had quotes from Bentley where he pointed out
that saved people are brothers and sisters in Christ.  Could you repost and supply the link where he said something
about not representing all people?

He was speaking at a Church at a Pastor Martin Luther King memorial, BTW...

Thanks...

-Mike

When any public official speaks in exclusionary terms regarding race or religion, you should question their ability to be fair in legal matters.  Would he treat "his brother in Christ" differently than someone who is not his "brother"?

[Bobbo]

He did refer to republicans as "the enemy"

I believe the insinuation was that Republicans were the enemy of Latinos.  He didn't even say Republicans; it was implied.

Comments made about other political parties are part of the political system.  When politicians comment on personal preferences and views outside of politics, they are usually walking on thin ice.

[Jeff K]

He did refer to republicans as "the enemy"

I believe the insinuation was that Republicans were the enemy of Latinos.  He didn't even say Republicans; it was implied.

Comments made about other political parties are part of the political system.  When politicians comment on personal preferences and views outside of politics, they are usually walking on thin ice.

Ah, I see. Negative comments only count if you agree with them. Like all the hateful things the Dems have said about the Tea party. Those are fine even though they are lies. Got it.

[Willow]

Would he treat "his brother in Christ" differently than someone who is not his "brother"?

That you posed the question (with the obvious assumption on your part) demonstrates how much you don't understand the governor and how much you strain to find offense,  Yeah, I know, you're not offended.

One of the reasons I dislike your participation in the conversations here is your ability to express complete inanity with unwarranted confidence.  You represent in eloquent fashion the idiocy that our current culture has come to accept under the guise of so called political correctness.

Were you to have lived a few hundred years ago, I can well imagine your casually stating how everyone knows that the world is flat.

By the way, the answer to your question is that if the governor of Alabama is an honorable man, no.

[Bobbo]

He did refer to republicans as "the enemy"

I believe the insinuation was that Republicans were the enemy of Latinos.  He didn't even say Republicans; it was implied.

Comments made about other political parties are part of the political system.  When politicians comment on personal preferences and views outside of politics, they are usually walking on thin ice.

Ah, I see. Negative comments only count if you agree with them. Like all the hateful things the Dems have said about the Tea party. Those are fine even though they are lies. Got it.

Negative comments by politicians about other political parties are fine with me, true or not.  Negative comments by politicians about non-political things like race and religion are NOT fine.

[Willow]

Negative comments by politicians about other political parties are fine with me, true or not.  Negative comments by politicians about non-political things like race and religion are NOT fine.

So, if I'm reading correctly, just 2.5 hours ago you wanted a politician who represents "ALL PEOPLE" but now it's okay for a politician to represent only his own political party.

I sincerely apologize, Bobbo.  I've misjudged you.  I didn't think you were capable of adjusting your opinion.    

[Bobbo]

One of the reasons I dislike your participation in the conversations here is your ability to express complete inanity with unwarranted confidence.  You represent in eloquent fashion the idiocy that our current culture has come to accept under the guise of so called political correctness.

So, out of frustration with your inability to intellectually participate in a discussion, you resort to personal attacks and insults?  And you say I represent the inanity factor on this board?

Were you to have lived a few hundred years ago, I can well imagine your casually stating how everyone knows that the world is flat.

That doesn't even make sense...

[fiddle mike]

It's too bad they didn't elect someone that will represent all people.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/alabama-governor-apologizes-controversial-mlk-speech/

You guys sure get desperate for ammunition.  It makes you look a little ridiculous in light of all the Leftists who have branded anyone who doesn't bleat with the herd as "racist".

[G-Man]

Sorry, Bobbo....you're on your own with this one.  Religion AND politics in one thread, and then the personal attacks sent me running.  

[Willow]

One of the reasons I dislike your participation in the conversations here is your ability to express complete inanity with unwarranted confidence.  You represent in eloquent fashion the idiocy that our current culture has come to accept under the guise of so called political correctness.

So, out of frustration with your inability to intellectually participate in a discussion, you resort to personal attacks and insults?  And you say I represent the inanity factor on this board?

Were you to have lived a few hundred years ago, I can well imagine your casually stating how everyone knows that the world is flat.

That doesn't even make sense...

I have no lack of ability to intellectually participate in a discussion.  Personal attack?  lol, you are thin skinned, aren't you?

It does to me.  It implies that what you have to say is the echo of what I could easily hear on any "news" show.  It means I really don't think you're capable of swimming upstream.

Personal attack?  Really?

[G-Man]

Oh boy, am I gonna regret this..........

Carl, with all the respect in the world, from one friend to another, you are attacking him.  You don't like his participation, he represents idiocy.....  Not what I expected from you (or any moderator for that matter).  You don't agree with him fine.  You believe he is inaccurate, fine.  Explain why you feel or think that way, but in my own humble opinion, you went a little too far.  I am not attacking you, I never would.  but your post caused me to delete mine.

[3fan4life]

Bobbo,

I know that you don't believe in the Christian Bible, but for those who do it foretells that near the "end times" people will be easily offended:

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Matt 24:10 (KJV)

and it certainly seems that many people these days go out of their way to be "offended".

[Bobbo]

Sorry, Bobbo....you're on your own with this one.  Religion AND politics in one thread, and then the personal attacks sent me running.  

I don't blame you.

Yes, it is a well-documented fact that if you express an opinion here that's not right wing conservative Christian, there will be a lot of mud slinging.  

At least I didn't sling the first mud.

[Bobbo]

Bobbo,

I know that you don't believe in the Christian Bible, but for those who do it foretells that near the "end times" people will be easily offended:

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Matt 24:10 (KJV)

and it certainly seems that many people these days go out of their way to be "offended".

I don't think this is a modern trait...

[Warlock]

This is so  . Ya'll need to take a ride. I just got back from one, Just like therapy
David

[3fan4life]

At least I didn't sling the first mud.

Actually I thought that the ENTIRE purpose of your post was to "SLING" mud on the governor of Alabama.

And possibly onto Christians in general.

[Bobbo]

Negative comments by politicians about other political parties are fine with me, true or not.  Negative comments by politicians about non-political things like race and religion are NOT fine.

So, if I'm reading correctly, just 2.5 hours ago you wanted a politician who represents "ALL PEOPLE" but now it's okay for a politician to represent only his own political party.

I sincerely apologize, Bobbo.  I've misjudged you.  I didn't think you were capable of adjusting your opinion.    

It is well known and expected that a politician will support his own political party's agenda.  It is not expected or desired that a politician supports only members of his own religion or race.

[3fan4life]

I don't think this is a modern trait...

No it isn't a "MODERN" trait, but it does seem to be more commonly used and accepted than it has been in the past 20 years or so.

[Bobbo]

At least I didn't sling the first mud.

Actually I thought that the ENTIRE purpose of your post was to "SLING" mud on the governor of Alabama.

And possibly onto Christians in general.

That's allowed and encouraged there!

We're not allowed to do it to each other, though...

I disparaged a politician that proclaimed a religious bias, not the religion.

[hubcapsc]

It is not expected or desired that a politician supports only members of his own religion or race.

Bobbo... you keep changing the subject to who Gov. Bentley is or is not going to support. Gov. Bentley said
something about who is and is not his brother (or sister) in Christ - he said (at a Church memorial service for
a preacher) he wished everyone was... where are you getting this left-field stuff about who he will "support"?

-Mike

[3fan4life]

That's allowed and encouraged there!

We're not allowed to do it to each other, though...

I disparaged a politician that proclaimed a religious bias, not the religion.

Perhaps if it were not for your long history of "disparaging" Christians here on this board that would be a more believable defense.

Also, I went back and read the entire article, It seems obvious to me that anyone finding "offense" in the governor's remarks are straining greatly to do so.  

Your "offense" implies that the Governor should have either renounced all of his religious beliefs when he took office or that he should remain silent about them.

I prefer politicians that are "clear" where they stand on all the issues, whether I agree with them or not.

Religious beliefs are the most deeply rooted beliefs that an individual can hold.

I would not trust anyone that would forsake his religious beliefs (whatever they may be) in order to hold a public office.

[Bobbo]

It is not expected or desired that a politician supports only members of his own religion or race.

Bobbo... you keep changing the subject to who Gov. Bentley is or is not going to support. Gov. Bentley said
something about who is and is not his brother (or sister) in Christ - he said (at a Church memorial service for
a preacher) he wished everyone was... where are you getting this left-field stuff about who he will "support"?

-Mike

The speech was immediately following his swearing in as governor.  He chose to give it at a church.  It was not a memorial service; it was his acceptance speech.

[3fan4life]

The speech was immediately following his swearing in as governor.  He chose to give it at a church.  It was not a memorial service; it was his acceptance speech.

Bobbo, I have to ask, "Did you READ the article that you posted?"

From the article:

MONTGOMERY, Ala. – It took more than two days for Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley to apologize for controversial remarks he made during a Martin Luther King day speech

and

Look at the forum, it was a commemoration of Martin Luther King Day to honor the legacy of Dr. King,

It does state that the speech was given shortly after he was sworn in. It does NOT state that it was his inaugural address.

[hubcapsc]

The speech was immediately following his swearing in as governor.  He chose to give it at a church.  It was not a memorial service; it was his acceptance speech.

Bobbo... Bentley was speaking at the Church's annual observance of Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday.
Governors don't give their acceptance speeches at MLK day ceremonies, it just doesn't work that way.

Bentley gave his acceptance speech on Tuesday night: http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/alabama

-Mike