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« on: February 19, 2011, 05:42:03 PM » |
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I started another thread a few days ago. Turns wont fire.
I will fire for and run only for a few seconds. Once warm it starts and runs fine. It is nearly impossible to get it running.
This is what I have done recently. I/S carb springs and ICM. i dont think this is a issue as it runs fine once I get it going. The plugs are new.
I pulled off the the choke lever covers and moved the choke cable and the lever slides . But what is it suppose to do? Are the brass nipples suppose to move? Move when the lever is depressed.? The levers move but appear to do anything.. help
I hate to spend 75.00 and hour for a bike that ran fine when I parked it in early december.
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Thunderbolt
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 05:48:46 PM » |
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When you pull the choke lever, watch and make sure that both sides start to move. When you have moved the lever and all the slack is out, then keep pushing, it will pull open all the enrichment valves. It should start then, without touching the throttle.
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John U.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 06:17:57 PM » |
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I didn't read the other thread so maybe all this has been covered.
Since the problem started after a period of non-use, was there stabilizer in the gas? If not drain the tank, drain the carb bowls add a hefty dose of Techron to fresh gas and run the bike, let sit overnight and run it again.
It's not only the slow jets that will get gummed up due to ethanol gas. A couple of months is plenty of time for that to happen. Does it idle with the choke off?
It can probably use a carb snyc, after the Techron does all the cleaning that it can.
An after market trigger wheel can cause hard starting but you've said it started fine before storage, I think that means the problem is fuel/carb related.
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f6rider
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 07:32:17 PM » |
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I last rode the bike in early december. I have had it in my heated garage since do odds and ends to it.
I fired it up after I put the Mark Ts on in early January.I t started fine. Than I put in the I/s icm and carb springs.
The right side choke slide doesnt move. The left side doesnt move much and it doesnt look to touch the se valves. I had the choke slides off when I installed the springs.
i was wondering if the slides move the valves and how far, and how do I adjust.
If you have done such a thing and dont mind a call , pm me with your info. thanks
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Blackduck
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 02:16:09 AM » |
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Never having to use the "choke" I have not paid attention to how far they move.
Would suggest just gently pulling on one of the enricheners and see how far it moves then adjust the choke cable till it moves the enricheners to just less than the same place. As the right side is not moving you will have to adjust the link cable to make them move the same.
Hope this helps.
Cheers Steve
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Thunderbolt
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 05:00:29 AM » |
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they have a notch that goes over the enrichener valves to engage them all at the same time. There is a small circular spring that returns them to fully closed and a cable that ties the left side where the choke cable from the handlebar terminates to the right side. This cable exits the rear of the left slide and goes around the rear of the carb bank to the rear of the right slide.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 08:01:57 AM » |
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The movement of the enrichener is 1/4".
You can see the movement if you look at the #6 carburetor on the enrichener side using a flashlight while moving the choke lever.
I don't subscribe to the "no throttle" starting scenario but rather give the throttle a quick blip while pressing the start button.
I use the "choke" whenever the motor is cold, and never had a problem starting the motor.
The "choke comes "off" as soon as the motor can sustain idle.
Sometimes I use the throttle lock to maintain an idle at a higher idle rpm because I turned the "choke" off too soon. I try never to run the bike with the "choke" on.
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Farther
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 10:02:41 AM » |
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I don't subscribe to the "no throttle" starting scenario but rather give the throttle a quick blip while pressing the start button. +1 |
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Thanks,
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f6rider
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 10:10:32 AM » |
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I was out looking at it earlier and it looks like thunderbolt is on the right track. When I reinstalled the diaphram covers I didnt have the choke levers engaging SE valves.
I have a family gathering today. When I am done I will go and reinstall the slides, clean the plugs and cross my fingers. I also found a pinched vaccum line. It is a fat one that was being pinched by the left side trans cover..
Thanks for the direction. Its easier to ask questions then find my tools out in the yard . lol
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f6rider
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 07:17:14 PM » |
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I re installed the choke slides. I havent tried to fire it up but I think it will do the trick.
With this thread and the "turns wont fire" thread I guess what I was looking was what screwed up doing what I had done to it. I have done The stacks on 2 of my other valks with out making this screw up.
I learned alot trying to figure this out. And I am very grateful to this forum and those who responded.
johnwodarski.com
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f6rider
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 07:14:20 PM » |
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Here is the update. I was the problem, lol. I reinstalled the choke slides and it fired right up. I had put some techron in it earlier so I let it run for about a 1/2 hour. Thanks again www.johnwodarski.com |
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