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Japan and it,s people

Started by shortleg, Fri 18, Mar 2011, 08:48:33

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shortleg


    My wife Bette and I were in Washington D.C. this morning
and we stopped at the japnese embasy.
    There is a book you can leave a message for the the
people of Japan. Was a somber trip inside the embasy.
    The people of Japan are lucky that there base comes from
their old ways. There has been no riots looting like there
was after some of our storme or blackouts.
    Just goes to show you that maybe,just maybe the
old ways come out on top.
            Shortleg[Dave]

alph

I was watching Diane Sawyer talk about homeless people staying in a gymnasium in Japan, and they were cleaning after themselves, recycling their garbage, helping one another.  The first thought that came to my mind where the idiots in the super dome after Katrina.  b-itching about everything, demanding everything, destroying everything, AND THEY KNEW THE HURICANE WAS COMING!!!

To get something for free, and then complain about it is disrespectful.  To know of impending danger and do nothing to get out of harms way is ignorance.
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Bobbo

The situation in Japan has nothing to do with "old ways" and everything to do with culture.  The Japanese, like many parts of the world, pretty much have a homogeneous culture.  When people have the same culture, they tend to help others in that culture.  Here in the USA, we have a lot of different cultures, some of which aren't compatible with others.  This causes strife and discontent, which leads to violence and the general uncaring for people outside ones culture.

alph

Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:26:20
The situation in Japan has nothing to do with "old ways" and everything to do with culture.  The Japanese, like many parts of the world, pretty much have a homogeneous culture.  When people have the same culture, they tend to help others in that culture.  Here in the USA, we have a lot of different cultures, some of which aren't compatible with others.  This causes strife and discontent, which leads to violence and the general uncaring for people outside ones culture.


Explain to me a "culture" that demands services, and when it comes to helping themselves, refuses to do so.  Who are those that can leach off of others then complain when a disaster occurs that it's the politicians fault for their situation.  What can be said of members of that culture?  Who's culture would you want to be part of?
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fudgie

Quote from: alph on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:35:30
Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:26:20
The situation in Japan has nothing to do with "old ways" and everything to do with culture.  The Japanese, like many parts of the world, pretty much have a homogeneous culture.  When people have the same culture, they tend to help others in that culture.  Here in the USA, we have a lot of different cultures, some of which aren't compatible with others.  This causes strife and discontent, which leads to violence and the general uncaring for people outside ones culture.


Who's culture would you want to be part of?
Country folks and biker culture.


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Bobbo

Quote from: alph on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:35:30
Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:26:20
The situation in Japan has nothing to do with "old ways" and everything to do with culture.  The Japanese, like many parts of the world, pretty much have a homogeneous culture.  When people have the same culture, they tend to help others in that culture.  Here in the USA, we have a lot of different cultures, some of which aren't compatible with others.  This causes strife and discontent, which leads to violence and the general uncaring for people outside ones culture.


Explain to me a "culture" that demands services, and when it comes to helping themselves, refuses to do so.  Who are those that can leach off of others then complain when a disaster occurs that it's the politicians fault for their situation.  What can be said of members of that culture?  Who's culture would you want to be part of?

If you want my unabashed harsh opinion, those cultures are created from the outcome of previous culture clashes in an attempt to "make things right"  At first it seems to work, which encourages expansion of these programs.  The newer members of the targeted culture get the benefits of the program without working for them, and they soon believe that they are a "privileged class".  People that believe they are in a privileged class expect things for free, and want exemptions from the rules.  You only have to look at rich celebrities to see that in action.

I am not a member of either "privileged class", nor do I want to be.

Dubsvalk

Japan's culture is one of taking care of each other.  The old are taken care of by their family members.  It has always been.  We, on the other hand, don't have time for anyone but ourselves; for the most part.  It is a shame that our politicians were allowed to create a welfare society that has mushroomed like the clouds over Japan.  Now they are wanting to give illegals entitlement to social security, when there is nothing left for those of us who have contributed to it for the last 40 plus years.  Professional politicians are self serving.  They do not serve their country or their constituents.
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Mikey

IMHO, The biggest thing that their culture has is respect for eachother, and everyone knows their place.
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Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:58:17
If you want my unabashed harsh opinion, those cultures are created from the outcome of previous culture clashes in an attempt to "make things right"  At first it seems to work, which encourages expansion of these programs.  The newer members of the targeted culture get the benefits of the program without working for them, and they soon believe that they are a "privileged class".  People that believe they are in a privileged class expect things for free, and want exemptions from the rules.  You only have to look at rich celebrities to see that in action.

I am not a member of either "privileged class", nor do I want to be.


Who are you, and what did you do with Bobbo? That makes WAY too much sense...  :angel:
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Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:58:17
Quote from: alph on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:35:30
Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:26:20
The situation in Japan has nothing to do with "old ways" and everything to do with culture.  The Japanese, like many parts of the world, pretty much have a homogeneous culture.  When people have the same culture, they tend to help others in that culture.  Here in the USA, we have a lot of different cultures, some of which aren't compatible with others.  This causes strife and discontent, which leads to violence and the general uncaring for people outside ones culture.


Explain to me a "culture" that demands services, and when it comes to helping themselves, refuses to do so.  Who are those that can leach off of others then complain when a disaster occurs that it's the politicians fault for their situation.  What can be said of members of that culture?  Who's culture would you want to be part of?

If you want my unabashed harsh opinion, those cultures are created from the outcome of previous culture clashes in an attempt to "make things right"  At first it seems to work, which encourages expansion of these programs.  The newer members of the targeted culture get the benefits of the program without working for them, and they soon believe that they are a "privileged class".  People that believe they are in a privileged class expect things for free, and want exemptions from the rules.  You only have to look at rich celebrities to see that in action.

I am not a member of either "privileged class", nor do I want to be.

Quote from: Serk on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 13:34:49
Quote from: Bobbo on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 09:58:17
If you want my unabashed harsh opinion, those cultures are created from the outcome of previous culture clashes in an attempt to "make things right"  At first it seems to work, which encourages expansion of these programs.  The newer members of the targeted culture get the benefits of the program without working for them, and they soon believe that they are a "privileged class".  People that believe they are in a privileged class expect things for free, and want exemptions from the rules.  You only have to look at rich celebrities to see that in action.

I am not a member of either "privileged class", nor do I want to be.

I noticed that the welfare abusers seem to have the same "privilieged mentality as the rich. "give me everything for free, hold me accountable for nothing. The only thing the average American gets out of this is we get to fund the grand experiment. >:(

Who are you, and what did you do with Bobbo? That makes WAY too much sense...  :angel:

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valkmc

Quote from: Mikey on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 13:13:56
IMHO, The biggest thing that their culture has is respect for eachother, and everyone knows their place.

They also understand work and as a people have a strong work ethic, unlike many of the people in this country.....
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I think it can be boiled down to a single word:

entitlement

When a group of people is brought up to feel entitled to something, well most will not be happy until they get it, and How they get it may not remain very important as time goes on.

We have too many such groups here in the USA

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Quote from: shortleg on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 08:48:33

    
    The people of Japan are lucky that there base comes from
their old ways. There has been no riots looting like there
was after some of our storme or blackouts.
    
            Shortleg[Dave]

You look at all the people they show in video and pictures from Japan....It's all " one " people " one " tribe...No mexicans , no blacks , no whites, etc .etc. etc. It's birds of a feather .....The trouble you speak of here in America was because we have way to many " tribe's " .


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

RoadKill

Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 17:21:34
Quote from: shortleg on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 08:48:33

    
    The people of Japan are lucky that there base comes from
their old ways. There has been no riots looting like there
was after some of our storme or blackouts.
    
            Shortleg[Dave]

You look at all the people they show in video and pictures from Japan....It's all " one " people " one " tribe...No mexicans , no blacks , no whites, etc .etc. etc. It's birds of a feather .....The trouble you speak of here in America was because we have way to many " tribe's " .

I have to disagree on that. I agree that the many "tribes" do not integrate well and that compounds many problems but around here they will turn against their own in a heartbeat to benefit themselves and disregard the cost to any and ALL others. Spoiled Americans !

csj

I've lived close to people that I didn't care for, but in a heartbeat,
if their car was broke down, their home or family in trouble,
any problem that I can assist with, I'm there.
Wish I could do something to help, don't have the where-with-all,
I'd love to help.
Gotta appreciate a people that stand together like they do.
A guy called me a Ba$tard, I said in my case it's an accident
of birth, in your case you're a self made man.

RoadKill

Quote from: csj on Fri 18, Mar 2011, 17:53:21
I've lived close to people that I didn't care for, but in a heartbeat,
if their car was broke down, their home or family in trouble,
any problem that I can assist with, I'm there.
Wish I could do something to help, don't have the where-with-all,
I'd love to help.
Gotta appreciate a people that stand together like they do.

That,unfortunately,puts you and many others of us here in the minority  :(