CNN says the captain has been freed and 3 of 4 pirates now dead

Oss · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 14:13:05

The 4th is in custody

Man is a hero.

That makes 2 captains our kids can look up to in the last few months. The other took his plane into the Hudson if you recall.

Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008 · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 14:26:54

:)Great news maybe they'll think twice about jacking another ship.

Scotiarider · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 14:43:20

Fantastic news !!! Think it's about time that all countries get real tough with these pirates, blow them out of the water whenever they find them on open water in an act of piracy.

Tundra · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 15:38:39

GREAT NEWS

Dogg · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 16:08:19

they shoulda done that 3 days ago...

2tonevalk · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 16:45:16

Need to put a half dozen B 52s over that POS town they were trying to get to and level it. Then take a fleet of aircraft and take out EVERY boat from freighter to dingy along the coastline of Somalia in one fast hard hitting "statement of intent".
But our nation has become a world haven of pu$$ies. Our president is bowing to Saudi kings, apologizing to the rest of the world for anything he thinks offended anyone.
So we gonna sit here and act like nothing happened. I imagine Nobama is on the phone apologizing for killing 3 Somali nationals.

Ride safe
Robert

Gear Jammer · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 19:39:10

Quote from: 2tonevalk on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 16:45:16
Need to put a half dozen B 52s over that POS town they were trying to get to and level it. Then take a fleet of aircraft and take out EVERY boat from freighter to dingy along the coastline of Somalia in one fast hard hitting "statement of intent".
But our nation has become a world haven of pu$$ies. Our president is bowing to Saudi kings, apologizing to the rest of the world for anything he thinks offended anyone.
So we gonna sit here and act like nothing happened. I imagine Nobama is on the phone apologizing for killing 3 Somali nationals.

Ride safe
Robert

I'm sure Nobama will also offer during the phonecall to give the 3 familiies their own "stimulus package" to make up for killing the three. Too bad there wasn't four. I'm sure the SEALS didn't have him sighted in, or there would be. Even my wife said they should have done this 3 days ago. Thumbs up to the military !

therapist · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:22:06

Wow...is it that hard to give our military credit for a mission well done, as well as the President who gave the go ahead for lethal force? I love how everyone is an expert in such matters. We should have done it 3 days ago? There probably were many reasons why it was done at the proper time in the proper way. No shortage of armchair quarterbacks here.

Scanner · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:41:52

That's a fact Therapist. Don't second guess the professionals, just applaud them for a job well done.

Gear Jammer · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:44:49

I believe I DID give credit to our military. They deserve 100% of the credit. As for armchair quarterbacks, the biggest one's at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Scanner · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:52:43

You did indeed oss...reference was to 2tone who had to try and throw crap on our President.

Big Rig · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:52:55

I think we all agree that we are glad it got done...We think the Captain is a hero and it is a shame there were only 3 kia. I hope they water board that sunna of allah and find out where is friends are and hunt them down...lets remember they had how many chance to surrender??? They made their bed...so now they can rot...Anyone remember Somalia back in the 90's??? we had a dummycrat as president then too...pulled out...afraid to use force...of any kind...Things have changed, times have changed...9-11 does anyone remember that day...people seem to forget, they came here and did what they did...they have to know that we will hunt them down and send them to meet allah as soon as we possible can. No apologies needed...support our troops, get the hell out of their way...and let them do what they are trained to do...and then support them when they come back home...PERIOD!!!

I am sure that statement will ruffle some feathers...

I would like to thank all the vets that make it possible for me to maintain the freedom to write/speak my mind...God Bless the USA and every person that protects us.

NiteRiderF6 · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:56:59

Quote from: therapist on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:22:06
Wow...is it that hard to give our military credit for a mission well done, as well as the President who gave the go ahead for lethal force? I love how everyone is an expert in such matters. We should have done it 3 days ago? There probably were many reasons why it was done at the proper time in the proper way. No shortage of armchair quarterbacks here.

There is no reason why four idiots in a dingy equipped with a few AK 47's should keep the US Navy at bay for over I'd say... ohhhhh... about 10 minutes.... . I think the ones who said it should have been handled 3 or 4 days ago were correct. Good things never happen when a situation is allowed to fester for days. Your opinion may vary and all opinions are welcomed here. Our military did a magnificent job once they were given the high sign to do so.... the problem is that it took so long to get the high sign over a bunch of thugs who are terrorizing the high seas against some of the world's greatest super powers. Perhaps, since this incident, they will think twice before attempting such attacks on ships that carry the Stars and Bars.

Gear Jammer · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 21:10:36

Quote from: NiteRiderF6 on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:56:59
Quote from: therapist on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:22:06
Wow...is it that hard to give our military credit for a mission well done, as well as the President who gave the go ahead for lethal force? I love how everyone is an expert in such matters. We should have done it 3 days ago? There probably were many reasons why it was done at the proper time in the proper way. No shortage of armchair quarterbacks here.

There is no reason why four idiots in a dingy equipped with a few AK 47's should keep the US Navy at bay for over I'd say... ohhhhh... about 10 minutes.... . I think the ones who said it should have been handled 3 or 4 days ago were correct. Good things never happen when a situation is allowed to fester for days. Your opinion may vary and all opinions are welcomed here. Our military did a magnificent job once they were given the high sign to do so.... the problem is that it took so long to get the high sign over a bunch of thugs who are terrorizing the high seas against some of the world's greatest super powers. Perhaps, since this incident, they will think twice before attempting such attacks on ships that carry the Stars and Bars.

Well said Doug.

Willow · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 21:39:04

Quote from: NiteRiderF6 on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:56:59

There is no reason why four idiots in a dingy equipped with a few AK 47's should keep the US Navy at bay for over I'd say... ohhhhh... about 10 minutes.... . so.... the problem is that it took so long to get the high sign over a bunch of thugs who are terrorizing the high seas against some of the world's greatest super powers. Perhaps, since this incident, they will think twice before attempting such attacks on ships that carry the Stars and Bars.

Some confusion here, Doug. We don't have any ships flying the stars and bars. They lost some 140 years gone by.

I'm with Therapist on this one. We are not privy to the information that our military and the chain of command, up to and including the commander in chief, have available to them. We really don't know whether the delay was waiting for approval or waiting for the right situation to "take the shot" with the best chance of bringing the hostage away alive.

Two thumbs up for a successful end to the operation.

I'm for heavy handed dealing with pirates and thugs, but I'm not in favor of unreasonably risking the lives of American citizens in the process.

Scanner · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 21:54:14

Well said Willow.

2tonevalk · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 22:03:34

Ummm I think the guys that took the shot are to applauded. I think the Naval officer who called the shot should be applauded. I think the Capt who put his life on the line should be applauded.
However when it comes to our President....and I use the term loosely.......I sincerely doubt he made ANY such order. He does not have the guts. I can only imagine he is contacting the pirates families with his 'profound apologies' for all the 'atrocities' every other president since Washington has done. To include using nuclear bombs on Japan to end a war they started, etc.

Before you start something you need to look at the facts my friends.

Did Obama bow to Saudi King Abdullah, or was he cleaning the floor?
Obama Calls Americans Arrogant
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30178308#30178308 Note to you Obama-ites.....this is Meet the Press of NBC. You know them.......they speak your language.

I am sorry but I expect MORE from the leader of the free world. A real president does not BOW to another government leader. He does not apologize for any actions. No one does more that this nation. Excuse me you can think what you want. Hell the guy cant make up his mind what religion he is. When he was running for President he was Christian. And now he is Muslim as he stated in Turkey this past week.
Ummm he isnt a president......he's more like a game show host.

So dont attack me guy unless you know what your talking about. Keep your opinion and I will do the same. Until I see this guy take a stand on something, I dont see anything here but a stuffed shirt.

Ride safe
Robert

2tonevalk · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 22:17:14

Quote from: Big Rig on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 20:52:55
I think we all agree that we are glad it got done...We think the Captain is a hero and it is a shame there were only 3 kia. I hope they water board that sunna of allah and find out where is friends are and hunt them down...lets remember they had how many chance to surrender??? They made their bed...so now they can rot...Anyone remember Somalia back in the 90's??? we had a dummycrat as president then too...pulled out...afraid to use force...of any kind...Things have changed, times have changed...9-11 does anyone remember that day...people seem to forget, they came here and did what they did...they have to know that we will hunt them down and send them to meet allah as soon as we possible can. No apologies needed...support our troops, get the hell out of their way...and let them do what they are trained to do...and then support them when they come back home...PERIOD!!!

I am sure that statement will ruffle some feathers...

I would like to thank all the vets that make it possible for me to maintain the freedom to write/speak my mind...God Bless the USA and every person that protects us.

I COMPLETELY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

Oss · Sun 12, Apr 2009, 22:54:07

sigh

This is why we dont see so many people posting anymore as in days gone by

nobody's mind is ever changed from a thread where this or that person is bashed.

We have a President. If we dont like him we can vote him out in 3 year and 7 months.

Till then he is the Commander of our Armed forces and sworn to protect the Constitution whether I like him, voted for him or not.

I didnt care for Bush bashing or Clinton bashing maybe I am just old fashioned that way

Lets just be happy no troops were lost or injured, the crew is safe and the bad guys are dead

I'm goin to bed. Hope all of you had a happy Easter.

Oss out

therapist · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 06:30:31

Great post Oss.

There are closed minded people everywhere, why should this board be any different?

Jack · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 07:04:41

I completely support the outcome of the situation, however, I was reading this morning where they think this may lead to a "retaliation" by the pirate groups who, up to now, have not harmed anyone when taking the ships. The pirates may be more willing to use deadly force in the future. Hopefully, the ships and the personel will be safe.

Scanner · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 09:18:25

2tone apparently doesn't remember the cheek kissing and strolling through the gardens holding hands that Bush did with the Saudis...get over it, you lost, don't hate America because your views are in the minority

hubcapsc · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 10:20:10

Quote from: Dogg on Sun 12, Apr 2009, 16:08:19
they shoulda done that 3 days ago...

The bad guys were thieves in a s**t hole, our guys were organized, well trained
and their attention was unflinching. The 3 days was probably just what they
needed for the guys in the s**t hole to get sloppy.

-Mike

MAD6Gun · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 11:19:35

He was on our ship negotiating. If had been on the boat he might have been killed as well. kudos to the best military in the world for the killing of these so called pirates. Maybe these POSs might think twice before they try to hijack an American ship again. As far as them retaliating. I say bring it on. Our guys need the practice. On the subject of Obama goes I was suprised to hear he gave the ok to use force. I don't think he had a choice. I applaud him for making that call.

Charlie · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 13:20:18

Ha ha!! I was thinkin this morning, on my way into work, how guys like 2ToneValk would react to this action. I have to say I was right, almost to the word! Narrow minded, doesn't matter what a president does, it won't be the right thing to do, use force, don't use force, blah, blah, blah!!! I wonder, sometimes, if you have to go somewhere to get programmed.

Both Willow and Therapist got it right, in my opinion. Thank God for our military and its Commander-In-Chief for taking the only appropriate action.

3fan4life · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 13:52:09

It sure strikes me as strange that it was OK to bash GW Bush and it was OK to bash Bill Clinton.

But, bashing Obama is off limits.

He's the president, bashing him is what we American's do.

He doesn't get a free pass.

I said that I wouldn't bash Obama until he really screwed up.

And so far I haven't, of course the way he's going I don't think that I'll have to hold my tongue much longer.

As far as the Pirating thing, I don't know what Obama did or didn't do.

I am glad that the pirates are dead and the Captain is safe.

What I don't understand is with the situation being what it is why American merchant ships passing through that area can't have some type of protection or escort from the US Navy while passing through the area.

It seems to me that a couple of US Navy cruisers in the right place at the right time could be very effective at preventing the hijackers from taking control of any US merchant ships.

And as we all know, AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE

Charlie · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 14:10:51

No one said Obama is off limits. The issue isn't who is and who isn't off limits. The issue is, the attitude of those on this site who feel it necessary to bite the Dem or Rep (depending on their personal choice) is always predictable, because those same people will find something wrong with the opposing party irregardless of whether that parties actions are correct or not correct.

Oss, said it best. "We have a President. If we dont like him we can vote him out in 3 year and 7 months. Till then he is the Commander of our Armed forces and sworn to protect the Constitution whether I like him, voted for him or not."

The rest of it (that being the bashing) serves no good purpose, creates no good friendships, and solves nothing. It's like graffiti on the bathroom wall, clearly written by a narrow-minded, ill-thought out simpleton.

By the way, I got some miles in on the bike this weekend!! Being from Michigan, that opportunity hasn't been available lately!!!

NiteRiderF6 · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 14:35:13

Quote from: Kindig on Mon 13, Apr 2009, 13:20:18
Ha ha!! I was thinkin this morning, on my way into work, how guys like 2ToneValk would react to this action. I have to say I was right, almost to the word! Narrow minded, doesn't matter what a president does, it won't be the right thing to do, use force, don't use force, blah, blah, blah!!! I wonder, sometimes, if you have to go somewhere to get programmed.

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The rest of it (that being the bashing) serves no good purpose, creates no good friendships, and solves nothing. It's like graffiti on the bathroom wall, clearly written by a narrow-minded, ill-thought out simpleton.

Would you be the same Kindig that posted this?

I'll agree with you that we are stuck with our (collective) decision as to who is "leading" our country just now....

While this is on top, why don't we just let it die as it serves no good purpose to continue....

Willow.... You are right once again... It is Stars and Stripes.... old habits die hard though!

Kindig.... I'm proud that you were able to get a few miles in this weekend.... Winter seems to be slithering away slowly up there this year...

Everyone... Ride Safely!

Charlie · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 15:04:24

Man, that does sound like bashing, doesn't it!!! My apologies to those I bashed. I will try real hard to improve the comments to exclude the bashing. It sure would be nice if others would do the same, but that isn't up to me.

2tonevalk · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 15:14:16

Quote from: Scanner on Mon 13, Apr 2009, 09:18:25
2tone apparently doesn't remember the cheek kissing and strolling through the gardens holding hands that Bush did with the Saudis...get over it, you lost, don't hate America because your views are in the minority

Well he may have walked with them, but he sure as hell didnt bow to them like a lowly piss boy. And I never cared for Bush as well. However he did stand like a man.

And the SADDEST thing is boys. You dont see nor are you smart enough to realize YOU lost too!!! Oh yeah, and your children.....and your grand children.....and your great grandchildren. And tell me this........what does the RICHEST woman (81 years old I believe) in the world need with an IPOD??????? And what is she gonna do with it??????? Ummm I believe when she wants to listen to music she calls bands to come perform for her live.....look it up, its called a "Command Performance".
You got you a real winner there I am telling you.

What next? Government subsidized posting of bailbonds for crack dealers? You just keep thinking there boys

and make the world a better, safer happier place for us all.

Probie (Scooter57) · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 17:32:16

How Y'all doin? I decided to sit this one out but it's been entertainin

PharmBoy · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 19:05:30

Yeah, I'm sitting this one out too. However, I'm betting that any of you with your thinking cap on can figure out where this old Tet-Vet stands...JTL

RP#62 · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 21:28:26

Just goes to show, those pirates know nothing about Americans. All they had to do was buy the ship, default on the payments and we would have given it to them.
-RP

Oss · Mon 13, Apr 2009, 21:36:31

threevalks · Tue 14, Apr 2009, 13:50:03

Boys. You're beating a dead horse with this politics BS, get off It. Can't we all just get along?

John Schmidt · Tue 14, Apr 2009, 14:45:32

When I saw RP's comment about buying/defaulting I LMAO!

Heck, I never thought my four daughters listened to my opinion either when they were growing up. But now, 25-35 yrs. later, they really surprise me at times. Guess I got out of practice...giving my opinion, that is. Think I'll save it for another day, another topic, been enough said on this one already. Glad it's over, kudos to the Navy SEALS for a job well done.

FryeVRCCDS0067 · Tue 14, Apr 2009, 15:19:08

The delay makes pretty good sense to me. Imagine if you will the difficulty of making three simultaneous head shots from a moving ship into a small boat, both of which were moving with the waves and wind?

The way I read it they were towing the boat and had slowly gotten it within 100 yards before taking their shots. Our snipers are great rifleman with great equipment but 100 yards under those conditions would have been the equal of 600 or 700 hundred yards on dry land and maybe more. Then consider, all the snipers had to stay on target for who knows how many hours till all three bad guys could be neutralized at once. Amazing.

The shortcomings of our leaders and the company who sent those men into harms way without the means to defend themselves are easy to see but the military did an awesome job under some very difficult conditions.

Big Rig · Tue 14, Apr 2009, 17:26:06

Politics, religion ,dark side and oil...it is all the same...everyone has an opinion and the right to express it...it is what makes our country the greatest in the world.

My hat is off to the shooters, may god keep all our defenders safe.

Ride Smart and Ride Safe
R.1.D.E.

News:

CNN says the captain has been freed and 3 of 4 pirates now dead