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Tire wear

Started by Oss, Sun 05, Jun 2011, 16:34:43

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Oss

I am usually pretty picky about checking my tire pressure

I checked and added to 46 rear before leaving for the powwow but failed to check it before leaving for home a thousand miles later.  The ride home was 500 miles only

This morning before riding to test the new rear brakes I checked and found 36 on the rear cobra
AND the center (one inch or so) of the tread was at the wear mark. The rest of the tread had loads of tread on it

Next week I will put on another thousand going to americade and riding the adirondacks vermont massachusetts and probably connecticut

Those of you who have run the cobra's what was the point where cords came thru?

I was hoping to be able to use the tire to go to Maggie Valley but now I am thinking I should change it out

TIA

Oss
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

I had to turn around and head home last weekend on " Britman's Memorial Weekend Ride " because I thought I could get one more ride out of my tires....I thought wrong  :(   Seems once they start looking " iffy " it does'nt take long and you have cords hangin' out of them.....Get off some of that lawyer money you have buried in the back yard in a mason jar and get some new tires  ;)


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

Oss

lol Joe I just knew you would say that

I already bought the Battleaxe 200 last fall

Did the cords come thru on the center or the sides is the question
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

Quote from: Oss on Sun 05, Jun 2011, 16:44:47
lol Joe I just knew you would say that

I already bought the Battleaxe 200 last fall

Did the cords come thru on the center or the sides is the question
I'm much harder on side walls in the chicken strips than the center . For the record T-Bird had just told me " That front tire ( Cobra ) is looking bad Joe " thats what made me pull over a few miles down the road to check it again that's when I saw the cords hangin' out of the side walls on my Copper Zeon 2XS on the rear.....I'd change it out Evan with the long rides you have planned  :cooldude:


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

donaldcc

#4
  I changed from E-3 to Cobra a few thousand miles ago and like them a lot.  How many miles on yours before tread mark. Don't think i will get down that far.  

  i'd say "tread mark" . . . "New Tire"  It will feel so much better.

Don

Oss

#5





around 10000 miles   It has worn better than the metzler.

Only now is it just starting to develop a bit of a flat spot and I blame myself for not checking the tires before heading home Monday.  Lesson learned
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

mhallock

Oss,

I had to get a tire mounted in Nashville last summer after thinking I could get the trip finished with that tire.......(was on the Natchez Trace when I noticed it was going bad.....very stressfull....I knew I wouldn't make it all the way home.....glad I found a dealer to mount it.

Get new tires BEFORE the trip......that was the lesson I learned.

It was a Metz....on my third set....I love 'em ( but I use the center of my tires more than Joe does, LOL)

Mark

JimC

OSS
I would not chance that rear tire on any long runs.

Also,
I may be wrong, but 46psi seems a little high, when you over fill a tire it rides more on the center (high point of the tire), lower psi will flatten the tire more for a wider contact patch with the road.
That could be your reason for center wear.

I think most folk on the board run 40-42, I run 40 front and back and so far no irregular wear.

Jim
Jim Callaghan    SE Wisconsin

BigAl

Change it.

We like you and want to keep you around.

AL

bigdog99

mine still has a flat spot on her, 16,000 miles later ;D
:2funny:


VRCC#31391
VRCCDS0239

RoadKill

Quote from: bigdog99 on Sun 05, Jun 2011, 21:15:06
mine still has a flat spot on her, 16,000 miles later ;D
:2funny:



A double 'flaming death' some how gives me a strange peace of mind,just have to remember to look at the tread every 10 to 20 k

Tropic traveler

Quote from: JimC on Sun 05, Jun 2011, 21:10:40
OSS
I would not chance that rear tire on any long runs.

Also,
I may be wrong, but 46psi seems a little high, when you over fill a tire it rides more on the center (high point of the tire), lower psi will flatten the tire more for a wider contact patch with the road.
That could be your reason for center wear.

I think most folk on the board run 40-42, I run 40 front and back and so far no irregular wear.

Jim

Jim be correct!!
I've never worn out a rear tire yet due to flats  >:( but Kim's Valk has 11,000 miles on the rear Avon & it looks like it will make at least 15K. I keep them at the 40-42 psi that Jim referred to.  :cooldude:
'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!

Jess Tolbirt

I have Avon Cobra's on mine and they are so loud i cant hardly hear the radio,,,not sure what will be next but it wont be Avons,,,,
Valkyrie member # 23084
Started out on old forum on day one but lost my member number.

Fudd



What on Earth caused this Dunlop E3 to wear like this?  I called myself checking it once a week or so, kept it in the 34-36 psi range.  It looks like under inflation, maybe.  I call myself "agressive" in the twisties, but Geeze.


Save a horse, ride a Valkyrie

ValkFlyer

Quote from: Fudd on Sun 05, Jun 2011, 23:40:20


What on Earth caused this Dunlop E3 to wear like this?  I called myself checking it once a week or so, kept it in the 34-36 psi range.  It looks like under inflation, maybe.  I call myself "agressive" in the twisties, but Geeze.

Fudd,
That pressure is way to low, I'd be surprised if you said you had better than 10K on that tire.  I've been running E3's for the last 3 years.  They average 17 - 23K depending on how good your are about staying on top of your air.  I run about 44 psi in the rear and 42 in the front.

3fan4life

This is my first Avon rear after about 8k miles.




I was running around 40 psi (TOO LOW).

With the second Avon I bumped up to 44 psi and it did the same thing around 9k miles.

On mine the cords always showed up to the sides of center.

My experience with the Avons has been that once they begin to show wear it isn't long before the cords are showing.

My biggest concern would be the 10 psi drop in pressure.

Every time that I've ever had a drop of more than a couple psi in a short period of time it turned out that something had sprung a leak.
1 Corinthians 1:18


3fan4life

Quote from: C A Dragn' on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 03:56:02
Fudd,
That pressure is way to low, I'd be surprised if you said you had better than 10K on that tire.  I've been running E3's for the last 3 years.  They average 17 - 23K depending on how good your are about staying on top of your air.  I run about 44 psi in the rear and 42 in the front.


How do you guys get such good mileage out of your tires?

17-23k is what I get out of front tires.

I switched to E3's because of the poor mileage that I was getting from the Avon's.

They do much better 10-12k mi vs 8k mi.

I weigh in around 250 (figure rider weight is a factor in tire wear) and have been runnig 46-48 psi in the rear.


1 Corinthians 1:18


Fudd

I weigh in at 230, my girlfriend (let me check and see if she's looking) tips the scale at 150.  We ride 2 up at least half of the time.

The E3 failed at 14k miles.  Once it started showing wear, it ground down fast on the sides.  As you can see there is still plenty of rubber in the center.

I may have subconsciously neglected the tire (?confession).  I had a Michelin CT waiting for its turn.


Save a horse, ride a Valkyrie

ValkFlyer

#18
Quote from: 3fan4life on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 09:03:32
Quote from: C A Dragn' on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 03:56:02
Fudd,
That pressure is way to low, I'd be surprised if you said you had better than 10K on that tire.  I've been running E3's for the last 3 years.  They average 17 - 23K depending on how good your are about staying on top of your air.  I run about 44 psi in the rear and 42 in the front.


How do you guys get such good mileage out of your tires?

17-23k is what I get out of front tires.

I switched to E3's because of the poor mileage that I was getting from the Avon's.

They do much better 10-12k mi vs 8k mi.

I weigh in around 250 (figure rider weight is a factor in tire wear) and have been runnig 46-48 psi in the rear.




I weight 260 pounds and commute 80 miles per day to work and back in CA.  Roads, here are not the best however I'd imagine there are far worse, so that may be a factor also.  I've found the 42 and 44 to be a good balance.  Two pounds difference in air pressure over time creates more wear and less mileage.  I'm good about the maintenance and tire checks because I'm commuting so much. Don't by cheap valve stem caps, they'll leak slowly over time because the rubber washers will wear and fail due to pulling them on and off constantly to check the pressure. I keep mine good and snug.

Jabba

Oss... I took a questionable tire on vacation a few years ago... I had to BEND over huge at the Honda Dealer in Charleston to get a new one.  SUCK!

I am a dark-sider now.

Jabba

donaldcc

Quote from: C A Dragn' on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 11:42:32
Quote from: 3fan4life on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 09:03:32
Quote from: C A Dragn' on Mon 06, Jun 2011, 03:56:02
Fudd,
That pressure is way to low, I'd be surprised if you said you had better than 10K on that tire.  I've been running E3's for the last 3 years.  They average 17 - 23K depending on how good your are about staying on top of your air.  I run about 44 psi in the rear and 42 in the front.






How do you guys get such good mileage out of your tires?

17-23k is what I get out of front tires.

I switched to E3's because of the poor mileage that I was getting from the Avon's.

They do much better 10-12k mi vs 8k mi.

I weigh in around 250 (figure rider weight is a factor in tire wear) and have been runnig 46-48 psi in the rear.




I weight 260 pounds and commute 80 miles per day to work and back in CA.  Roads, here are not the best however I'd imagine there are far worse, so that may be a factor also.  I've found the 42 and 44 to be a good balance.  Two pounds difference in air pressure over time creates more wear and less mileage.  I'm good about the maintenance and tire checks because I'm commuting so much. Don't by cheap valve stem caps, they'll leak slowly over time because the rubber washers will wear and fail due to pulling them on and off constantly to check the pressure. I keep mine good and snug.


That blue txt is really hard for these old eyes to read.   :coolsmiley:

Don

sugerbear

i just click and highlite it.................i've got old eyes too :)



Oss

#22
Got myself over to my local motorcycle shop early this morning with the Valkyrie, the Battlaxe 200 series tire and a nice metal valve stem I got from MP a few years ago
Took the bags off before riding over to kinda lower the shock of the bill when it comes.
:o and avoid any damage to my bags that would be denied by the shop
Hope they will have the bike done by tomorrow night as I told em I have a room at americade thursday nite and would hate to miss it

They said they would not have passed the tire on the inspection that is due next month.

Thank you for all the replies.

After the Battleaxe I may go back to the darkside but with a different tire than the toyo proxes T1R

BigD is really diggin the tire I gave him after riding it for a year but it just wasnt for me.
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)