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Started by doubleminded, Wed 07, Sep 2011, 02:12:33

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tank_post142

peak hp about 96 @ 6250 rpm. peak torque about 96 @ 4300rpm
I got a rock :(
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Momz

#41
FARTHER

91.87 HP - 93.13 Ft/Lbs
Remember Torque is a measurement and Power is a calculation.
But there are no dips and valleys in the curves.

ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY! 

97 Valk bobber, 98 Valk Rat Rod, 2K SuperValk, plus several other classic bikes

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: tank_post142 on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 16:54:49
jeaz Chris, having a bad day?  :roll:
Not at all...Im the first person thats willing to offer up advice based on experience or just personal preference, but there was a post about irritating phrases; well irritating stuff for me is when people offer up their opinion but cant stop until EVERYONE agrees.  The Valkyrie makes enough power to make all but the most technical racer happy.  I dont feel that the Cobras make a drop in power for my bike so Im happy with them, If someone else thinks they are dogs, well they dont have to use them, but why should I have to produce a dyno run to validate my satisfaction.........just ride and be happy thats what the Valkyrie is for  ;)

BIG--T

I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)

Hoser

Quote from: Momz on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 18:33:04
FARTHER

91.87 HP - 93.13 Ft/Lbs
Remember Torque is a measurement and Power is a calculation.
But there are no dips and valleys in the curves.
Thanks for posting that sheet, Mom's,  that's the only way to find out as far as HP and Torque are concerned.   :cooldude:  Hoser
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Hoser

Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 19:42:37
I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)
As far as gas mileage goes, that has nothing to do with a dyno, I suppose that info would have to found out by using both exhaust on the same bike with the same amount of gas from the same pump. Then compare your milage figures.
That's all I can come up with.  Hoser
I don't want a pickle, just wanna ride my motor sickle

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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 19:42:37
I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)
Hey Big T...I get the normal gas mileage usually reported.  Now sometimes people say they get 40+ well Im not saying anything other than most people I know that rides a Valk dont get that.  Some say they get under 30 thats not my experience either.  I average 35mpg.  If I run the superslap its more like 32 with the crappy alkehol gas, but if I keep the rpms below 3K its easily 35 or slightly better.  I have cobra pipes, but even guys I know that have stockers report similar numbers.  Also mine is a '97 the faster less gas effecient ones.  I do have one friend that says he gets over 40......so maybe them bikes exist, but his is not a '97

BIG--T

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:15:15
Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 19:42:37
I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)
Hey Big T...I get the normal gas mileage usually reported.  Now sometimes people say they get 40+ well Im not saying anything other than most people I know that rides a Valk dont get that.  Some say they get under 30 thats not my experience either.  I average 35mpg.  If I run the superslap its more like 32 with the crappy alkehol gas, but if I keep the rpms below 3K its easily 35 or slightly better.  I have cobra pipes, but even guys I know that have stockers report similar numbers.  Also mine is a '97 the faster less gas effecient ones.  I do have one friend that says he gets over 40......so maybe them bikes exist, but his is not a '97

Hey Chris, I get 29-35 but I ride pretty aggresive sometimes. If you'll read my post on the 1st page towards the end, I actually got 40 mpg for the FIRST time and tickeled to death!! Lol

My main question was will I get better mileage with my baffles in?

Thanks,
Tony  :cooldude:

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:27:12
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:15:15
Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 19:42:37
I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)
Hey Big T...I get the normal gas mileage usually reported.  Now sometimes people say they get 40+ well Im not saying anything other than most people I know that rides a Valk dont get that.  Some say they get under 30 thats not my experience either.  I average 35mpg.  If I run the superslap its more like 32 with the crappy alkehol gas, but if I keep the rpms below 3K its easily 35 or slightly better.  I have cobra pipes, but even guys I know that have stockers report similar numbers.  Also mine is a '97 the faster less gas effecient ones.  I do have one friend that says he gets over 40......so maybe them bikes exist, but his is not a '97

Hey Chris, I get 29-35 but I ride pretty aggresive sometimes. If you'll read my post on the 1st page towards the end, I actually got 40 mpg for the FIRST time and tickeled to death!! Lol

My main question was will I get better mileage with my baffles in?

Thanks,
Tony  :cooldude:
I think the answer (technically) is yes you will get better milage with the baffles.  I ride with a dude that has the exact bike I do except he has no baffles.  The rest of the story, the difference is very very small, not worth it if you really like the baffles out.

BIG--T

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:33:08
Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:27:12
Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 20:15:15
Quote from: BIG--T on Thu 08, Sep 2011, 19:42:37
I don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thanks ;)
Hey Big T...I get the normal gas mileage usually reported.  Now sometimes people say they get 40+ well Im not saying anything other than most people I know that rides a Valk dont get that.  Some say they get under 30 thats not my experience either.  I average 35mpg.  If I run the superslap its more like 32 with the crappy alkehol gas, but if I keep the rpms below 3K its easily 35 or slightly better.  I have cobra pipes, but even guys I know that have stockers report similar numbers.  Also mine is a '97 the faster less gas effecient ones.  I do have one friend that says he gets over 40......so maybe them bikes exist, but his is not a '97

Hey Chris, I get 29-35 but I ride pretty aggresive sometimes. If you'll read my post on the 1st page towards the end, I actually got 40 mpg for the FIRST time and tickeled to death!! Lol

My main question was will I get better mileage with my baffles in?

Thanks,
Tony  :cooldude:
I think the answer (technically) is yes you will get better milage with the baffles.  I ride with a dude that has the exact bike I do except he has no baffles.  The rest of the story, the difference is very very small, not worth it if you really like the baffles out.

We went on a 700 mile trip and I put them in to make my wife happy...and I could actually hear her. ;D  Yeah, I do like the sound with the baffles out. Even some of my HD buds like to hear her!

Disco

QuoteI don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thank you, BIG-T. 

Hey Double, we Texans don't care which pipes you run.  I've run 2bros 6x6, oem Standard/Tourer, 18" glasspack mod, and now oem Interstate.  Check out the advice given by those who actually paid attention to your subject line, do what you can on your own, feel free to reach out to the locals, and I invite you one more time to attend your first DFW Wrench Party (when they resume (very soon)). 

My comment about your saddlebag was based on the fact that when my buddies and I saw it on the floor, one of the reasons one of my guys did not buy it was the bottom rear corner of the RH bag.  I even hooked CCoD up with two Tourer bag bottoms that only needed paint, but they wouldn't spend the $$.  Did you replace, repair, or blow it off for now?
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doubleminded

Quote from: Disco on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 00:03:42
QuoteI don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thank you, BIG-T. 

Hey Double, we Texans don't care which pipes you run.  I've run 2bros 6x6, oem Standard/Tourer, 18" glasspack mod, and now oem Interstate.  Check out the advice given by those who actually paid attention to your subject line, do what you can on your own, feel free to reach out to the locals, and I invite you one more time to attend your first DFW Wrench Party (when they resume (very soon)). 

My comment about your saddlebag was based on the fact that when my buddies and I saw it on the floor, one of the reasons one of my guys did not buy it was the bottom rear corner of the RH bag.  I even hooked CCoD up with two Tourer bag bottoms that only needed paint, but they wouldn't spend the $$.  Did you replace, repair, or blow it off for now?

Your post is great.No i still have the little cracks in the bottom corner,doesnt bother me a bit.I am going to check the air filter,and the needle position though.Seems like everyone here gets better mpg than me.
Jesus likes vakyries.

Ricky-D

doubleminded posts:
Quote"I am going to check the air filter,and the needle position though.Seems like everyone here gets better mpg than me."

I think with the aftermarket needles you will not be able to achieve the results you seek.

As CA said, you are employing the richest needles available for the Valkyrie.

I feel that even though you can adjust the needles for a better result, it is the needle profile that you have no control over.

So I would say to get the stock needles back in place to get the best results, which you are seeking.

***
2000_Valkyrie_Interstate

Momz

horsepower = rpm x torque / 5252

torque = 5252 x horsepower / rpm

Power to Weight Ratio: the more power (torque) to weight equals better mileage for a given RPM/Gear

ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY! 

97 Valk bobber, 98 Valk Rat Rod, 2K SuperValk, plus several other classic bikes

Hoser

#54
Quote from: doubleminded on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 01:17:22
Quote from: Disco on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 00:03:42
QuoteI don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thank you, BIG-T.  

Hey Double, we Texans don't care which pipes you run.  I've run 2bros 6x6, oem Standard/Tourer, 18" glasspack mod, and now oem Interstate.  Check out the advice given by those who actually paid attention to your subject line, do what you can on your own, feel free to reach out to the locals, and I invite you one more time to attend your first DFW Wrench Party (when they resume (very soon)). My comment about your saddlebag was based on the fact that when my buddies and I saw it on the floor, one of the reasons one of my guys did not buy it was the bottom rear corner of the RH bag.  I even hooked CCoD up with two Tourer bag bottoms that only needed paint, but they wouldn't spend the $$.  Did you replace, repair, or blow it off for now?

Your post is great.No i still have the little cracks in the bottom corner,doesnt bother me a bit.I am going to check the air filter,and the needle position though.Seems like everyone here gets better mpg than me.
It's a well known fact that new Valkyrie owners get thier worst mileage during the first year of ownership, due to shall we say "vigorous" application of the happy grip on the right handlebar.
Rear tire suffers abnormal wear also.   ;)  hoser
I don't want a pickle, just wanna ride my motor sickle

[img width=300 height=233]http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/

BIG--T

Quote from: Hoser on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 11:28:20
Quote from: doubleminded on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 01:17:22
Quote from: Disco on Fri 09, Sep 2011, 00:03:42
QuoteI don't know how this got so sidetracked but doubleminded didn't say a word about power, but gas mileage. So would someone mind answering my question?

Thank you, BIG-T.  

Hey Double, we Texans don't care which pipes you run.  I've run 2bros 6x6, oem Standard/Tourer, 18" glasspack mod, and now oem Interstate.  Check out the advice given by those who actually paid attention to your subject line, do what you can on your own, feel free to reach out to the locals, and I invite you one more time to attend your first DFW Wrench Party (when they resume (very soon)). My comment about your saddlebag was based on the fact that when my buddies and I saw it on the floor, one of the reasons one of my guys did not buy it was the bottom rear corner of the RH bag.  I even hooked CCoD up with two Tourer bag bottoms that only needed paint, but they wouldn't spend the $$.  Did you replace, repair, or blow it off for now?

Your post is great.No i still have the little cracks in the bottom corner,doesnt bother me a bit.I am going to check the air filter,and the needle position though.Seems like everyone here gets better mpg than me.
It's a well known fact that new Valkyrie owners get thier worst mileage during the first year of ownership, due to shall we say "vigorous" application of the happy grip on the right handlebar.
Rear tire wear suffers abnormal wear also.   ;)  hoser


Yep, That's me! :2funny:

doubleminded

Yep thats me too.See,its not my fault.Dont give me a 140 mph bike and expect me to ride it consevatively.One time i rode my sisters 200 honda.Of course when she wasnt around i rode it wide open.Caint help it.
Jesus likes vakyries.

dago mooserider

+1. My milage has gone down slightly lately after I installed mark T exhaust. It's not because of the exhaust, it's because of my right hand. I know those cobras sound sweet and bangin gears @ 7000 like I have been kills the milage.
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

doubleminded

Quote from: valk/gixxer rider on Sat 10, Sep 2011, 11:25:10
+1. My milage has gone down slightly lately after I installed mark T exhaust. It's not because of the exhaust, it's because of my right hand. I know those cobras sound sweet and bangin gears @ 7000 like I have been kills the milage.

I was getting on my bike at the gym.A guy comes up and says nice hog.I started it up,reved it,and he says man that aint no hog is it?he says but i bet it could keep up with one couldnt it? I said yes,im sure it could.
Jesus likes vakyries.

BIG--T

Quote from: doubleminded on Sat 10, Sep 2011, 15:20:38
Quote from: valk/gixxer rider on Sat 10, Sep 2011, 11:25:10
+1. My milage has gone down slightly lately after I installed mark T exhaust. It's not because of the exhaust, it's because of my right hand. I know those cobras sound sweet and bangin gears @ 7000 like I have been kills the milage.

I was getting on my bike at the gym.A guy comes up and says nice hog.I started it up,reved it,and he says man that aint no hog is it?he says but i bet it could keep up with one couldnt it? I said yes,im sure it could.

Ya should've said maybe I could if I had nitrous! :2funny: :2funny:

Tundra

I just got back from a 352 mile Florida Valk Gathering. I usually get between 29mpg-38mpg depending on roads, riding style, and the personality of the other riders.
  I got 37.5mpg-41mpg on this ride (verifiable by Grumpy) my riding partner. I was previously running open header to an empty gutted can, (4"truck stack). The only thing that I have touched on my bike has been the Glass-Pack modification. My carbs are clean as a whistle and I use non-ethanol when filling up near home. I will run 3oz. of Lucas fuel treatment per tank when I've been out and had to fill up with ethanol fuel. I noticed smoother mid-range roll-on acceleration and a nicer tone with the Glass-Packs. The 37.5 was the last leg of my ride and pressing hard to get home, running 85mph-95mph. I should have done this long ago :uglystupid2:
I really don't know what to attribute my increased milage to??? I used to read these posts of folks at or over 40mpg and say to myself REALLY???
Well I'm here to tell you I'm in that "milage high" club and want my cookie. ;)
If you can't be a good example: be a WARNING!!

doubleminded

Quote from: Tundra on Sun 11, Sep 2011, 08:23:28
I just got back from a 352 mile Florida Valk Gathering. I usually get between 29mpg-38mpg depending on roads, riding style, and the personality of the other riders.
  I got 37.5mpg-41mpg on this ride (verifiable by Grumpy) my riding partner. I was previously running open header to an empty gutted can, (4"truck stack). The only thing that I have touched on my bike has been the Glass-Pack modification. My carbs are clean as a whistle and I use non-ethanol when filling up near home. I will run 3oz. of Lucas fuel treatment per tank when I've been out and had to fill up with ethanol fuel. I noticed smoother mid-range roll-on acceleration and a nicer tone with the Glass-Packs. The 37.5 was the last leg of my ride and pressing hard to get home, running 85mph-95mph. I should have done this long ago :uglystupid2:
I really don't know what to attribute my increased milage to??? I used to read these posts of folks at or over 40mpg and say to myself REALLY???
Well I'm here to tell you I'm in that "milage high" club and want my cookie. ;)

Im curious about your muffler setup.Are you using big rig smoke stacks as mufflers.Then packing them with glass?Do they go right over the header pipes?How much do they cost and where do you buy them?
Jesus likes vakyries.

Tundra

I'm using cheap old Cherry Bomb Glass-Packs. You can get pretty much get whatever length you like. I used 8" can with an overal 12" tip to tip. I welded them to a threaded coupling so I can screw them in or out. I love them and they are staying in. I purchased them in Auto-Zone, generic Auto-Parts store here in Florida, I think they were about $36.00 for both.
  If the Glass Pack ever breaks down, I'll unscrew them and buy new ones. Cheap and easy and effective. :cooldude:
If you can't be a good example: be a WARNING!!

Tundra

#63
Quote from: doubleminded on Sun 11, Sep 2011, 09:13:23
Quote from: Tundra on Sun 11, Sep 2011, 08:23:28
I just got back from a 352 mile Florida Valk Gathering. I usually get between 29mpg-38mpg depending on roads, riding style, and the personality of the other riders.
 I got 37.5mpg-41mpg on this ride (verifiable by Grumpy) my riding partner. I was previously running open header to an empty gutted can, (4"truck stack). The only thing that I have touched on my bike has been the Glass-Pack modification. My carbs are clean as a whistle and I use non-ethanol when filling up near home. I will run 3oz. of Lucas fuel treatment per tank when I've been out and had to fill up with ethanol fuel. I noticed smoother mid-range roll-on acceleration and a nicer tone with the Glass-Packs. The 37.5 was the last leg of my ride and pressing hard to get home, running 85mph-95mph. I should have done this long ago :uglystupid2:
I really don't know what to attribute my increased milage to??? I used to read these posts of folks at or over 40mpg and say to myself REALLY???
Well I'm here to tell you I'm in that "milage high" club and want my cookie. ;)

Im curious about your muffler setup.Are you using big rig smoke stacks as mufflers.Then packing them with glass?Do they go right over the header pipes?How much do they cost and where do you buy them?
Doubleminded, Please don't attribute my milage to this Glass-Pack mod. I'm not for sure what it is, or maybe a combination of things and good clean fuel? I've been painfully working on jets, shimming needles, adjusting pilots for years. I think It's finally all come together
If you can't be a good example: be a WARNING!!

doubleminded

tundra,u are probably right.trial and effort paid off.
Jesus likes vakyries.