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junk K&N oil filter

Started by viper, Mon 26, Sep 2011, 20:01:19

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viper

Ive used honda oil filters for 70,000 miles.....  I just tryed a  303 k&n  (the new, the best, high teck. ) yeah rite------and its clatering... I thought ther was somthing wrong with my motor.  Its going back to K&N with a nice letter !!!!  anybody eles have this problem?

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Quote from: viper on Mon 26, Sep 2011, 20:01:19
Ive used honda oil filters for 70,000 miles.....  I just tryed a  303 k&n  (the new, the best, high teck. ) yeah rite------and its clatering... I thought ther was somthing wrong with my motor.  Its going back to K&N with a nice letter !!!!  anybody eles have this problem?

+1  :cooldude: OEM is better!


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Quote from: viper on Mon 26, Sep 2011, 20:01:19
Ive used honda oil filters for 70,000 miles.....  I just tryed a  303 k&n  (the new, the best, high teck. ) yeah rite------and its clatering... I thought ther was somthing wrong with my motor.  Its going back to K&N with a nice letter !!!!  anybody eles have this problem?
Ratdog, long time member had a bad experience with K&N filter. I think he had one collapse on him.
David

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R J

I'm knocking on the door of 200K on my K&N, MGM has 242K+ as of today.    It had a seperation about 9 months into it's use.    I was on Hot Rod Power Tour, went to their booth and asked about this seperation.    She asked the year, Make Model and etc, and my name and address.    Gave her all the information, when I got home from Power Tour I had a brand spankin new filter from K&N.     It as of this writing is still in MGM and works just fine.

Now this rattling around you talk about, all I will say without seeing the filter in person, is you either have a wrong one or it is installed wrong.

Not dressed appropriately to go to the back garage to see if I can find the old box this one came in.
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R J

Quote from: viper on Mon 26, Sep 2011, 20:01:19
Ive used honda oil filters for 70,000 miles.....  I just tryed a  303 k&n  (the new, the best, high teck. ) yeah rite------and its clatering... I thought ther was somthing wrong with my motor.  Its going back to K&N with a nice letter !!!!  anybody eles have this problem?


Have you tried calling them and asking about the filter rattling, or are you just going to chew ass and then expect them to help ya out.    Try calling them before you go jumping off the deep end.
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R J

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Quote from: R J on Tue 27, Sep 2011, 00:24:41
Quote from: viper on Mon 26, Sep 2011, 20:01:19
Ive used honda oil filters for 70,000 miles.....  I just tryed a  303 k&n  (the new, the best, high teck. ) yeah rite------and its clatering... I thought ther was somthing wrong with my motor.  Its going back to K&N with a nice letter !!!!  anybody eles have this problem?


Have you tried calling them and asking about the filter rattling, or are you just going to chew ass and then expect them to help ya out.    Try calling them before you go jumping off the deep end.

Okay, I misunderstood, you are talking about an oil filter?   I was talking about an air filter, and I think most of the others were also.

I don't use their oil filter so I have no idea how they are built.
I use a Wal-Mart one with good luck.   Hell of a lot cheaper also.

http://store.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx

Their filter is $12.00+ and I buy mine at Wal-Mart for like $3.50.

They have a full money back policy so just send it BACK WITH A NICE LETTER ON WHY YA RETURNED IT.   Flowers get ya further than thistles.
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T.P.



RATDOG'S  filter problem was with an Amsoil filter. after I read his posting I went and checked mine and it had collapsed also.    Amsoil has some one else making there filters now.   T.P.
"Well you can call me T, or you can call me P, or you can call me T.P. but you doesn't hasta call me Toilet Paper"

hotglue #43

Here is a good place to start your oil filter search.  Many clickable links.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html


blue=3 times
green=at least 4 times
When they are all 'green'.. I'll stop counting.

Dag

If a filter get quickly filled up with particles means that the filter is very effective. That`s why we have the filter installed.
Filter that lasts a long time has often a poor ability to capture particles. In other words, filters with short life is often a good filter and filters that lasts a long time often have poor ability il to capture particles. We must of course compare the filters on the same engine / oil.

K&N oil filters are not junk  :)
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

The Anvil

Insofar as air filters are concerned, if it's small enough to make past a K&N it's not going to damage your engine. Check out the air filter on a piston driven aircraft the next time you have a chance. It's pretty much a K&N style oiled pleat with a foam pre-filter. Lycoming, Continental, Pratt etc. don't concern themselves with ultrafine particulate removal from the airflow because it's not harmful (as long as you follow recommended oil change intervals) and minimally restricted airflow is critical to making proper power where the engine was designed to and for safe flight.

OEM filters work well enough, but they are what they are because they're inexpensive.
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Dag

Quote from: CA ExhaustCoatings on Tue 27, Sep 2011, 14:17:57
Quote from: Dag on Tue 27, Sep 2011, 10:56:37
Filter that lasts a long time has often a poor ability to capture particles. In other words, filters with short life is often a good filter and filters that lasts a long time often have poor ability il to capture particles.

is this why K&N requires cleaning at 50k miles, poor ability to capture dirt?  K&Ns are a race track item, not really meant for the street.

here is an actual ISO 5011 Standard (formerly SAE J726) test of various filters, k&n is really bad.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

We are talking about oil filters. I have not done any tests with air filters for the Valkyrie.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...