On the Discovery Channel 10 PM tonight: Muslims in America

[Momz]

This series was filmed in my neighborhod of Dearborn/Dearborn Heights. The gigantic Mosque in the series is but blocks from my house.

I have nothing against legal immigration, as my parents were post WWII immigrants that became US citzens ASAP. We were told never to expect special treatment because we weren't like most other families.

I hope that this series is fair and impartial. As their has been a gigantic 24 hour Christian prayer vigil at Ford Field Statdium that was lambasted and protested by the Muslim community as anti Islam.

Peace,...to all

[Fritz The Cat]

Please don't get me started on Muslims. If you're the least bit pro Muslim, I will offend you.

[ricoman]

Please don't get me started on Muslims. If you're the least bit pro Muslim, I will offend you.

You are not alone,Fritz.

[Momz]

Fritz the Cat and ricoman

I'm not anti-muslim, anti-jewish, anti-methodist, catholic, mexican, irish, gay,...or whatever.
I just don't want it rammed down my (or anyone elses) throat.

America is the land of immigrants, just be an American,....period.

[BF]

And so the feel all warm and fuzzy about muslums indoctrination begins on TLC.  When they feel all warm an fuzzy towards me then maybe I'll feel different, but that young woman with the attitude in the commercial for the show puts me off right from the get-go. 

[Momz]

BF

Me too!

[Momz]

ON TLC
my bad

[Momz]

I was quite surprized by the fair and impartial treatment.

TLC's "All American Muslim" is something that I will continue to monitor.

But in defence of my Muslim neighbor across the street. They don't have an anti American attitude. This family has six kids and they are all very respectful and they go out of their way to help older folks in on our block. 

[Chrisj CMA]

I am not anti muslim either.  Im anti blowing up innocent people; and anti anyone that thinks thats ok.   Well, maybe Im anti muslim after all 

[..]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

[The Anvil]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Flame suit on.

I've grown tired of trying to defend Muslims as not all having bombs strapped to them. Some people you just can't reach.

[bscrive]

I know a lot of Muslims and most are great hard working people with respectful kids.  The ones I have a problem with are the ones that do not see Canada as their home, only the place that the currently live.  I say that if you do not want to integrate into our nation then stay the he!! HOME.  We don't need anyone here that will not take Canada into their hearts and see it as home.  If you can leave the crap back where you left from then you are welcome, if not then the door is closed.

By the way, that goes for anyone out there.

[Chrisj CMA]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

Britman....its just a sad truth.......Its in their nature to be anti westerner.  Most individual muslims (here in the US) WILL be fine citizens.  But, you get a truthful answer from many many of them and they would side more with the ones that celebrated at 9/11.  You let the concentration of muslims increase and see how things change.  Still yet there will be the exception, the good ones, fine people.......you may have found some.......but its not the norm, and my flame suit is on too.......Its about time people in the US call it for what it is.  Its a Muslim invasion and when they get enough power we will be sorry

[Chrisj CMA]

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Well, yes I do believe the God of Bible is  the one true God.  I do believe there is a judgement coming and for those muslims (and anyone else that is anti God)the Bible calls it the Dreadful day of the Lord.  Yes I believe they are on the wrong side of that judgement.  That has nothing to do with why I dont like whats going on here concerning Muslims.

Ive heard more than once from a Muslim that Islam is not a religion...its their life.  They (many many) have a duty to uphold and that is what Im talking about, Im not making it up, its just  how the world is........

[DarkMeister]

I know a lot of Muslims and most are great hard working people with respectful kids.  The ones I have a problem with are the ones that do not see Canada as their home, only the place that the currently live.  I say that if you do not want to integrate into our nation then stay the he!! HOME.  We don't need anyone here that will not take Canada into their hearts and see it as home.  If you can leave the crap back where you left from then you are welcome, if not then the door is closed.

By the way, that goes for anyone out there.

I have to go with my fellow Canuck on this one. USA has the 'melting pot' approach; we have what was known as the "cultural mosaic". Screw that. Adapt to the culture of your new country - you know: the one you wanted to come live in so badly - or piss right off. If it bothers you, if it doesn't fit with, or worse, offends, your lifestyle, here's the damn door.
Bscrive is likely aware of the court case currently underway here in Kingston. The Afghan bastard who killed his two daughters and one of his (!!!) wives. Staged to look like an accident. Why? The girls shamed him by wanting the despicable western lifestyle. But hey - that's his culture and beliefs.
Not only does this sort of crap not belong here, it shouldn't belong anywhere on Earth.
Locals say "Ship him back! Now!". Personally I think he should be put to death, and THEN shipped back. In as many small packets as possible.
People of such conviction and beliefs lurk all around. Sure, they smile and are polite and crap, seem to fit in - but what lurks beneath that? Disgust, hate and biding of time while humoring the western 'pigs' they are living amongst. How do you define incompatible?
Sorry. This culture clash example just makes me flip. Feel free and tell me about all the white, Christian yahoos who go nuts and gun down their families. Those are nutcases. Not cold-blooded honor killers.

[czuch]

INDOCTRINAAAAAAAAATION!
Lets point out the problem makers and just go home to our kids. I've been on 4 "WESPAC"
cruises and 99% of the world just wants to go to work, then come home and play with the kids and go to bed from what I've seen. Howbout it?

[Novavalker]

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/01/poll-62-of-canadian-muslims-favor-implementing-aspects-of-sharia-law/

[Paxton]

You have the ability to choose your reactions...  

The fact that logic cannot satisfy us awakens an almost insatiable hunger for the irrational.
Really, an opinion ought to be the result of thought, not a substitute for it...  

Indeed, you can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that god hates all the same people you do.  

[Chrisj CMA]

You have the ability to choose your reactions...  

The fact that logic cannot satisfy us awakens an almost insatiable hunger for the irrational.
Really, an opinion ought to be the result of thought, not a substitute for it...  

Indeed, you can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that god hates all the same people you do.  

You dont seem to have a grasp on this God thing.  The God I call God (the one Jeses called "Father" when he was on earth) doesnt hate anyone.  But he will send all that have trodden the name of Jesus to under foot to a place called the Lake of Fire none the less.  It has nothing to do with hate, but all to do with Holiness.  Grace is free, but by faith you accept it, its not automatic, its not forced on anyone, but without it.....the judgement will be the terrible or dreadful day of the Lord instead of the Great day for those that He knows. 

[BF]

Islam is NOT a religion. 


THIS IS ISLAM!

[Warlock]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

Maybe I missed something on the upper post. I didn't see anything mentioned about God, Christian. Reading your words sounded like someone else that likes to stir the pot here.
David

[..]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

Maybe I missed something on the upper post. I didn't see anything mentioned about God, Christian. Reading your words sounded like someone else that likes to stir the pot here.
David

David,

I know of Chris's faith and that is what my response was to. To Chris. Not you nor anyone else.

[alph]

welp, just as posted below;

"Promote world peace, Ban ALL religions!!"

my daughter gets 10 extra credit points for watching that show, i'm sure she'll have no compation for muslims after watching that show, i keep reminding her that they kill people 'cause "ALLA" tells 'em too!

[Warlock]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

Maybe I missed something on the upper post. I didn't see anything mentioned about God, Christian. Reading your words sounded like someone else that likes to stir the pot here.
David

David,

I know of Chris's faith and that is what my response was to. To Chris. Not you nor anyone else.

I was wondering. Sometimes I miss things . I guess that comes with age .
David

[Chrisj CMA]

My dentist of 3 years is a Muslim and hands down the best I've had use dangerously sharp implements on me.

His high school daughter rides my bus and is hands down the best behaved and well spoken of the high school kids on my bus.

Neither have tried to kill me unlike the HUNDREDS of white people who have tried to kill me over the years as I've driven or ridden on roads in many different countries.

Nice to read the sweeping generalizations from some Americans. Remember most of you cam from a foreign country as have many, many believers of the Muslim faith.

Could it be that you believe that only your God is the true God?

Way to go in showing truly Christian beliefs. Not a drop of prejudice there. Shame on you.

Flame suit on.

Maybe I missed something on the upper post. I didn't see anything mentioned about God, Christian. Reading your words sounded like someone else that likes to stir the pot here.
David

David,

I know of Chris's faith and that is what my response was to. To Chris. Not you nor anyone else.

Britman....I dont know what you believe, and I certainely dont know what you think a Christian is.  But As a Christian, an American, a Father and everything that is within me, I find nothing that says I have to accept the behavior of a people that call me the great satan and wish me dead, and see no problem with killing innocents.  Now, I know.......you say thats a gross over generalization.........Well, I think its a slight over generalization. 

First, let me be clear  just as there are a lot of "Christians" that arent truely saved...they have just been brought up in a christian home or church, but have no relationship with Christ.  There are a lot of "Muslims" that either converted or were born into a lifestyle and dont hold to the full tenant of  Islam and the Koran, many Americans have converted to Islam and really believe it is just a peaceful alternative to religion.  Those are not the ones I am talking about

A true Muslim following the Koran has a duty to work toward a day that Muslims rule the world and Sharia law is everywhere......This I am not making up, and you can choose to call me a biggot for thinking so, but in Europe and England they dont think its so silly

We have been kissing the asses of people all around the world that want us dead and Im tired of it........Do I hate them, No, of course not, but Im not going to pretend they are my best buds either, THEY WANT US DEAD........those are the Muslims Im talking about, and from what I have read and seen, its way more than just a few radical ones, its their way of life.....Its a few RATIONAL ones that are the exception, and you may know some of these, Im not saying there arent some fine folks that happen to be Muslim.

We may disagree, but I just wanted to be more clear because I agree the way I stated my view before sounded less than reasonable.....it was not a serious post, this is

[Jack]

"A true Muslim following the Koran has a duty to work toward a day that Muslims rule the world and Sharia law is everywhere......This I am not making up, and you can choose to call me a biggot for thinking so, but in Europe and England they dont think its so silly"

Chris, isn't that a Christian's duty as well, ie: work toward a day when all are Christian.

Also, the Christian God was pretty kick-ass in the old testament and, apparently showed love to only his people.

If all would act as Jesus would, the world would be a better place, no doubt.  I like Jesus' teachings.  It is some people's interpretation of their religion that gives me pause.

[Paxton]

It is the certainty that they possess the truth, which makes men cruel.
One could choose to be scared and hysterical about differences, or choose to learn more about them... or choose to not choose.

Whether it takes you off your comfort zone and no matter how right you think you are, it ain't gonna change the reality of the here and now. 

"Every person on her/his volition must choose how much truth she/he can stand."

[98valk]

welp, just as posted below;

"Promote world peace, Ban ALL religions!!"

re·li·gion   /rɪˈlɪdʒən/  Show Spelled[ri-lij-uhn]  Show IPA
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:

according to the definitions, atheism is a religion, humanism is a religion, environmetalism is a religion, etc., etc., etc.

so your statement "ban all religions" is nonsensical.

This is why the founding fathers stated, Our rights and freedoms are God given not man given. The governments of the world over the centuries always try and have in some countries to make themselves out to be god.
taking God and religions out of societies will allow a few powerful people to become gods just like the kings of old did over the people.
If one knows their history they will see the error in the statement "ban all religions" for by definition there will always be some type of a religion.
Although in the Book of Revelations, one world wide religion does come into existance which allows a one world dictator to come into power. And if people do not follow him, they will be beheaded,
isn't this what the muslims do?

[Chrisj CMA]

"A true Muslim following the Koran has a duty to work toward a day that Muslims rule the world and Sharia law is everywhere......This I am not making up, and you can choose to call me a biggot for thinking so, but in Europe and England they dont think its so silly"

Chris, isn't that a Christian's duty as well, ie: work toward a day when all are Christian.

Also, the Christian God was pretty kick-ass in the old testament and, apparently showed love to only his people.

If all would act as Jesus would, the world would be a better place, no doubt.  I like Jesus' teachings.  It is some people's interpretation of their religion that gives me pause.

No Jack, we have a duty to spread the word....its your choice.  Christians dont kill all those that wont accept Jesus, and we have no aspiration that the whole world will BE Christian, just that the whole world has HEARD.  Yes God did (in the days of Moses have them people kick ass) but the New Testament changed that some. 

[ptgb]

... Christians dont kill all those that wont accept Jesus, and we have no aspiration that the whole world will BE Christian, just that the whole world has HEARD...  

Except from 1095 to 1291... right?




Kicking self for getting involved in a religious debate

[..]

... Christians dont kill all those that wont accept Jesus, and we have no aspiration that the whole world will BE Christian, just that the whole world has HEARD...  

Except from 1095 to 1291... right?




Kicking self for getting involved in a religious debate

And numerous other national, international wars and civil conflagrations around the world for hundreds of years.

[Chrisj CMA]

... Christians dont kill all those that wont accept Jesus, and we have no aspiration that the whole world will BE Christian, just that the whole world has HEARD...  

Except from 1095 to 1291... right?




Kicking self for getting involved in a religious debate

And numerous other national, international wars and civil conflagrations around the world for hundreds of years.

I see......Its ok to over generalize and blame Christians for what ails the world, but muslims are off limits because you know one that you like.  Im thinking the Crusaides or whatever you and pgtb are talking about were probably not keen examples of what Christ followers should be doing.....I wasnt there and either was George Bush........so I suppose we have to let the blame go on that one

[Chattanooga Mark]

Great post and video BF, thank you for it.

Some like to poke at christians for being the worlds villains. They often cite The Crusades as the be all, end all reason christains are the worlds killers and hate mongers. What they never seem to do is offer any real facts. Like, who were the christians fighting in the crusades and why. Oh, that's right, anyone who wouldn't forceably convert to Islam was being murdered. Cities were being taken by force by Muslims and anything 'christian' was being destroyed, taken or perverted. Ignorant can be fixed by education. Stupid is when facts are readily available but are ignored because they get in the way of ones opinion.

At first glance, this seems like a decent site for information.    http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/the-crusades.htm     Let me be clear, I'm in no way saying there haven't been wrong and wayward christians throughout the world's history. There have been and they're still around. But, there is a time for war. Real christians are peace loving and non threatening. Many christians in countries you don't see on the television news were killed while you read this. They aren't being killed by atheists or other christian sects. They are all being killed by Muslims in their crusade to spread Islam. Islam was created to oppose Christanity.

Whether or not you believe the Holy Bible is your business. Personally, I belive each and every word of it. I take being a christian very seriously, it's who I am and why I was born.

All the best,

Mark
   

[ptgb]

I see......Its ok to over generalize and blame Christians for what ails the world, but muslims are off limits because you know one that you like...

...Some like to poke at christians for being the worlds villains. They often cite The Crusades as the be all, end all reason christains are the worlds killers and hate mongers. What they never seem to do is offer any real facts. Like, who were the christians fighting in the crusades and why. Oh, that's right, anyone who wouldn't forceably convert to Islam was being murdered. Cities were being taken by force by Muslims and anything 'christian' was being destroyed, taken or perverted. Ignorant can be fixed by education. Stupid is when facts are readily available but are ignored because they get in the way of ones opinion...

...Let me be clear, I'm in no way saying there haven't been wrong and wayward christians throughout the world's history. There have been and they're still around. But, there is a time for war. Real christians are peace loving and non threatening. Many christians in countries you don't see on the television news were killed while you read this. They aren't being killed by atheists or other christian sects. They are all being killed by Muslims in their crusade to spread Islam. Islam was created to oppose Christanity...

EXACTLY and EXACTLY to both posts!

Now take both of the above quotes and interchange the words "christian" for "muslim" and vice versa...the above statements would ring true as well.

Heck (gonna hedge my bets by not swearing there).... interchange any named religions and or organized belief system and you have a good chance that the above statement's message will not change.

Believe me... I ain't got a dog in this fight, as I am not religious. But basically your opinion of the other pretty much depends on which side of the aisle you sit on. But then again, that can be said about pretty much anything.

p.s. - Everybody I know (that has told me) is a either a practicing or non-practicing Christian (and I like some of them)... I don't personally know any Muslims to the point to call them a friend.. if I did I would probably like only some of them as well... just like with the Christians.

[Chattanooga Mark]

ptgb,

     Sorry, but you do have a dog in this fight. It's being forced upon you, your family, friends, nieces, nephews, grand children etc. Here and around the world. You may not want it, but it's coming and in some areas, is already upon us.
     Actually, I'm not at all religious. All to often, 'religion' gets in the way of a true relationship with God.

All the best to you,

Mark

[BF]

 

Wipe Them Out, All of Them

[bscrive]

If it isn't some nut using religion to try to rule the world it's a Stalin or a Hitler.  To me, they are all the same.  What's up with wanting to rule the world anyways...talk about a freakin headache, there will always be someone trying to take it from you.  Not worth it, I would rather ride my valk.

[Paxton]

God is a concept by which we measure our pain, our resulting fears and our anxieties. But paranoia is just a heightened sense of awareness.  ???
You become so aware of the Muslim Boogie Man that he keeps your brain flappin' through the inquisition and the middle ages...
not too far off the Valkyrian myths.  

Well, there is no doubt that fiction makes a better job of the truth.

Indeed, we are motivated more by aversion to the unpleasant than by a will toward truth, freedom, or healing.
We are constantly attempting to escape our life, to avoid rather than enter our pain...
and we wonder why it is so difficult to be fully alive.  

And this is the forbidden truth, the unspeakable taboo - that evil is not always repellent but frequently attractive;
That it has the power to make of us active accomplices in hate and ill will.  

Moreover, these learned feelings, behaviors and attitudes are again and again, the passed-down burdens that you must not escape.
Indeed, you feel compelled and must make sure that your children and your children's children do not squander this legacy of hate...

Muslims have been around the Earth for a while now (several Millenium)... But, as I've learned, they never imagined that
the VRCC Brain-Trust would be here to finally stop their march through history...  

At any rate, ones paranoia does not mean that Muslims are not out there struggling to make a successful life for
themselves and for their families.  

That's outrageous! Native Americans tried the same takeover strategy and we kicked their ass.
They too engaged in non-Christian rituals and the God almighty taught them a lesson.   So, why would Muslims think that
they'll get away with such failed strategy?

It makes you wonder, what's wrong with those people. Don't they know that they live in America? What makes them think that
hard work and the pursuit of happiness is for them? We got to stop them... for the love of God!
Please, join the call to action. Go and "wipe them out, all of them." Help save us from ourselves!

"Those who understand history are condemned to watch other idiots repeat it."

[Valkernaut]

Something that has bothered me for years: "God given rights". What are they and how do we know they came from God?

Jim

[bscrive]

Something that has bothered me for years: "God given rights". What are they and how do we know they came from God?

Jim

Because they say so...not sure who THEY are but I am sure we can trust them.  Yah right.