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1000+ Watt Alternator - Feedback anyone?

Started by GJS, Sat 10, Dec 2011, 12:38:04

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GJS

Hi there,

While snooping around eBay for Valk parts I found this.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260656767085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1680wt_489

Anyone got one of these?
I now have about 200+ LEDs, Fog Lights, Dual Headlights, Stereo and a heated vest. Everything is fine so far.
I am considering getting a full heated liner and pants for me and my gal, as well as looking into the "dayLong' heated seats for my 99IS. I'm  thinking the additional heated components will take me over the top of what the OEM alternator can handle. And I am also concerned that a MUCH Larger alternator might also have its own issues.

I have seen other posts referring to some bigger units affecting idling and low RPM charging.  I'm concerned this may unit be worse.

Thoughts?

Thanks

Glenn

The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

Gear Jammer

Check the tech archives for a post by MarkT for his GW alternator install.



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Grumpy

It will fit the motor, but be prepared to cut a notch out of the frame to get it in.  Those are for Goldwings, that do not have the clearance problem.


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MarkT

I've run a 90 amp Compufire alternator for maybe 10 years now.  No problems, but I did have to cut the frame to fit it.  Looks to me like that alternator is longer than stock, and you may have fit issues too, though I see they claim it's for  valk.  Doesn't look like it in the pic to me.  Probably not a problem if the housing isn't longer.  Where did the get the extra power - rewinding it?  So it fits in the same space?  I'm a believer in doubting the "something for nothing" theory.  I suspect there are space costs.  http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Compufire/compufire.html

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Fudd

I sent an email to the guy selling the altenator on ebay and asked:

"I understand that this altenator will fit a Valkyrie, but you have to cut the frame to get it in place.  Is that true?"

He promptly emailed back with this answer:

" No I think only the output position is not same if you want you can send me any picture from your old alternator and I will give you the right information,email me at altstarter@gmail.com ,Thanks"

Maybe he has a solution for a high output altenator that doesn't involve cutting the frame.  It wouldn't hurt to contact him  and discuss it.


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Quote from: MarkT on Sat 10, Dec 2011, 15:16:40
I've run a 90 amp Compufire alternator for maybe 10 years now.  No problems, but I did have to cut the frame to fit it.  Looks to me like that alternator is longer than stock, and you may have fit issues too, though I see they claim it's for  valk.  Doesn't look like it in the pic to me.  Probably not a problem if the housing isn't longer.  Where did the get the extra power - rewinding it?  So it fits in the same space?  I'm a believer in doubting the "something for nothing" theory.  I suspect there are space costs.  http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Compufire/compufire.html
Great job on the write-up  :cooldude:


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R J

Quote from: GJS on Sat 10, Dec 2011, 12:38:04
Hi there,

While snooping around eBay for Valk parts I found this.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260656767085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1680wt_489

Anyone got one of these?
I now have about 200+ LEDs, Fog Lights, Dual Headlights, Stereo and a heated vest. Everything is fine so far.
I am considering getting a full heated liner and pants for me and my gal, as well as looking into the "dayLong' heated seats for my 99IS. I'm  thinking the additional heated components will take me over the top of what the OEM alternator can handle. And I am also concerned that a MUCH Larger alternator might also have its own issues.

I have seen other posts referring to some bigger units affecting idling and low RPM charging.  I'm concerned this may unit be worse.

Thoughts?

Thanks

Glenn



I'd hate to try and fit that in a Valkyrie frame.   That looks worse to fit than the GW version.

Your 105 LED's don't have much draw.  Your other stuff, you would have to figure out the draw, and add it all up.   Then go from there.
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GJS

Quote from: MarkT on Sat 10, Dec 2011, 15:16:40
 http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Compufire/compufire.html

Thanks Mark. Great write-up!

I think I'll take FUDD's advice and drop him a line.
It does look long, doesn't it?  :'(
Cheers,

Glenn
The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

Mickmanchester

I've fitted that alternator, it works without cutting the frame, you have to remove the output terminal completely and reattach after install, not easy but achievable, I've done it three times now.
Two things to watch for, when/if you get it check the housing alignment, mine was out 33 degrees, a pain when you discover this after getting it in that tight spot and have to take it out again to line up. Also the drive couple retaining nut on mine came loose after about 1500 miles again had to strip it out and loctite it on, worth doing as a precaution prior to install, use the strong loctite.
It works fine, I run with a volt meter and it shows charging at about a grand, no issues and the right money, even after paying import tax. Hope this helps.
Mick
"Sometimes I'd head for the highway I'm old and the mirrors don't lie"

GJS

Thanks Mick.

That is what I wanted to know. :cooldude:

The seller is useless. I have exchanged several emails with him. I think english is not his first language. All he wants is pictures and part numbers. (I sent him both the first time he asked)

I assured him the part number was correct and sent him a long note explaining what the problem might be if it is longer. He sent me another response asking for part numbers and pictures.

I asked him for a reference. He asked for part numbers and pictures. :uglystupid2:

Would you say your new alternator is the same size and weight as the OEM?
I'm curious how the extra energy is being created. More windings of a smaller gauge wire maybe?

Thanks Mick.

Best regards,

Glenn
The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

gordonv

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Quote from: Mickmanchester on Sun 11, Dec 2011, 02:50:15
Two things to watch for, when/if you get it check the housing alignment, mine was out 33 degrees, a pain when you discover this after getting it in that tight spot and have to take it out again to line up.
Mick

With out rereading the whole post, I think someone mentioned this was for a GW. In a post around 1 year ago, they mentioned that the GW alt would work in the GL1500 Valk if the front housing was reclocked. Same alt, just the housing off by that 33 degrees that you mentioned. So they are interchangable back/fourth, after you realign it.
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Grumpy

Quote from: gordonv on Sun 11, Dec 2011, 14:13:37
Quote from: Mickmanchester on Sun 11, Dec 2011, 02:50:15
Two things to watch for, when/if you get it check the housing alignment, mine was out 33 degrees, a pain when you discover this after getting it in that tight spot and have to take it out again to line up.
Mick

With out rereading the whole post, I think someone mentioned this was for a GW. In a post around 1 year ago, they mentioned that the GW alt would work in the GL1500 Valk if the front housing was reclocked. Same alt, just the housing off by that 33 degrees that you mentioned. So they are interchangable back/fourth, after you realign it.
They are the same, just remove the 3 screws holding the case, and rotate it 1/3 turn. I do it on a regular basis. when removing the screws, hold the rear, and the center section, and rotate the front part of the housing.


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