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Started by doubleminded, Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57

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doubleminded

NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.
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Daniel Meyer

"Big" emp on a planet-wide/electrical grid scale is still insignificant emp for the small/shielded circuits in cars/trucks/mc's and other devices. The reason a solar pulse can impact electrical grids is because they are so huge. Think of an antenna...ignoring particular wavelength design, the bigger they are the more energy they can pick up. Hundreds of thousands of miles of power lines spread out all over the continent can pick up significant energy from a solar based emp pulse, the circuits in our bikes/appliances will not. They are insignificant on the scale they are talking about.

Unless it's spiked by a surge on the grid, a device isn't going to be permanently affected by any survivable solar event.

CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

RainMaker

Don't know the answer to this, but not taking any chances so will ride this year like there is no next year!   Let's ride before the solar flares and Mothra and Gamera take out the ECMs on our Valks!!


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doubleminded

Quote from: Daniel Meyer on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:51:08
"Big" emp on a planet-wide/electrical grid scale is still insignificant emp for the small/shielded circuits in cars/trucks/mc's and other devices. The reason a solar pulse can impact electrical grids is because they are so huge. Think of an antenna...ignoring particular wavelength design, the bigger they are the more energy they can pick up. Hundreds of thousands of miles of power lines spread out all over the continent can pick up significant energy from a solar based emp pulse, the circuits in our bikes/appliances will not. They are insignificant on the scale they are talking about.

Unless it's spiked by a surge on the grid, a device isn't going to be permanently affected by any survivable solar event.


Thank you for that explanation.the solar max of 1958 was hardly noticed because computers and cellphones and high tech didnt exist.the usa is vulnerable as is any other country with like technological dependence.The next solar max is predicted to be 30-50% stronger than the one in 1958.

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biguglyman

Maybe the Mayans saw it coming...just sayin'... :uglystupid2:

hubcapsc

Quote from: biguglyman on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 14:33:28
Maybe the Mayans saw it coming...just sayin'... :uglystupid2:

I was just looking at my VRCC calender... that flipping thing ends after 2012 too!!!!!  :o

-Mike

Daniel Meyer

CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

doubleminded

ha ha ha ha.thats funny dan.I am a Christian.So I beleive what the bible says.I dont try to force my beliefs on anybody.But for the record,my instruction manual aka the bible says not even Jesus himself knows when He is coming back or everything hits the fan.I also know the earth as we know it is going to last at least another 1,007 years.At the end of that time our burnt out messed up bombed up ruined earth is going to be replaced.Or so I believe.
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Valkpilot

Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.
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Valker

The Mayans were wrong! I just bought a half-gallon of ice cream, and it has a 2013 expiration date...so THERE! 8)
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

RainMaker

Quote from: Valker on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 17:41:21
The Mayans were wrong! I just bought a half-gallon of ice cream, and it has a 2013 expiration date...so THERE! 8)

Hey Valker - you got that right.  I just bought a new battery for my car and it is guaranteed for 5 years!  But I'll hang onto the receipt in case the world ends so I can get a refund.

RM


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2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1998 Valkyrie Tourer
1981 GL1100I GoldWing
1972 CB500K1

Rocketman

Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

I don't think he saw any dire predictions from NASA.  NASA only predicted the event.  Repercussions were speculations made by other parties.

Mark

Daniel Meyer

Quote from: dreamaker on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 09:28:32
NIBIRU 2012 A.D.

Here's what NASA has to say about it:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/yoemans20091110.html

"Nibiru, a purported large object headed toward Earth, simply put - does not exist. There is no credible evidence - telescopic or otherwise - for this object's existence. There is also no evidence of any kind for its gravitational affects upon bodies in our solar system."
CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

Red Diamond

I know people who still have some water and canned goods from 2K, may they can use the rest of it then.

If you are riding  and it is a must that you keep your eyes on the road, you are riding too fast.

Valkpilot

Quote from: Rocketman on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 18:48:50
Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

I don't think he saw any dire predictions from NASA.  NASA only predicted the event.  Repercussions were speculations made by other parties.

Mark

Exactly.
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IBA #44686
1998 Black Standard
2007 Goldwing 
 
   

doubleminded

Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

All i did was on google typed nasa predicts a solar storm
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Rocketman

Quote from: doubleminded on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 09:03:04
Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

All i did was on google typed nasa predicts a solar storm

Understood.  There's a lot of misinformation out there.  Not vilifying you, just trying to clarify.

Mark

doubleminded

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godfire

Quote from: Rocketman on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 10:24:18
Quote from: doubleminded on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 09:03:04
Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

All i did was on google typed nasa predicts a solar storm

Understood.  There's a lot of misinformation out there.  Not vilifying you, just trying to clarify.

Mark
You know Mark, since you work at NASA, this is all your fault! What have you been doing at work? :evil:
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Rocketman

Quote from: godfire on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 19:08:40
Quote from: Rocketman on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 10:24:18
Quote from: doubleminded on Tue 03, Jan 2012, 09:03:04
Quote from: Valkpilot on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 16:44:12
Quote from: doubleminded on Mon 02, Jan 2012, 08:15:57
NASA predicts a solar storm and possible huge emp bigger than the one in 1958.Could have catastrophic consequences.Our bike electrical system and computer wont work if that happens will it?I work in a hospital, in ICU.I have since the navy in 1969.My wife is a retired nurse.We took care of tornado victims in 1979 with limited electricity and no running water.I hope todays technology is better protected for such an event.

Have you got a link?  The article I read on the NASA site had no such dire predictions.

All i did was on google typed nasa predicts a solar storm

Understood.  There's a lot of misinformation out there.  Not vilifying you, just trying to clarify.

Mark
You know Mark, since you work at NASA, this is all your fault! What have you been doing at work? :evil:

I've been busy.  SOMEBODY's got to build and launch those solar probes/bombs.  You don't think solar flares just pop up by themselves, do you?