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A petcock issue I've not had before

Started by RainMaker, Sat 07, Jan 2012, 20:58:43

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RainMaker

Took off the tank and could not pull a vacuum - just gas - out of the vacuum tube.  Figured a bad diaphragm.  So rebuilt the petcock with a K&L kit with new spring, diaphragms.  Tied it back together in the correct format (spring, disc, big diaphragm, metal connector, fuel diaphragm) and vacuum holds great.  Put gas in the tank, put a clear tube on the gas outflow and no gas flowing at off.  Turned to on and no gas.  Pulled a vacuum and - no gas.  Switched to reserve and no gas with vacuum.  It's like the fuel diaphragm is not opening.  Tank has about 2 gallons in it.  Screen is clean.

Ideas?



2005 BMW R1200 GS
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1998 Valkyrie Tourer
1981 GL1100I GoldWing
1972 CB500K1

MP

you can pull a vac on the line, and then blow into the inlet into the petcock to see if it is opening up. 

"Ridin' with Cycho"

RainMaker

pulled the petcock off and looked down the outlet and the diaphragm is opening when I put vacuum on it.  Put the petcock back  on and on reserve, I finally got it to flow but there were bubbles in the flow.  Turned it to ON and tilted the tank back - no flow.  Turned it back to reserve and it doesn't flow with vacuum.

I think the petcock itself may be bad, i.e, ball sticking.


2005 BMW R1200 GS
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1998 Valkyrie Tourer
1981 GL1100I GoldWing
1972 CB500K1

Valkpilot

Quote from: RainMaker on Sat 07, Jan 2012, 21:28:06
pulled the petcock off and looked down the outlet and the diaphragm is opening when I put vacuum on it.  Put the petcock back  on and on reserve, I finally got it to flow but there were bubbles in the flow.  Turned it to ON and tilted the tank back - no flow.  Turned it back to reserve and it doesn't flow with vacuum.

I think the petcock itself may be bad, i.e, ball sticking.

Are you getting positive feedback, i.e. is it clicking into place, when you move the selector from one position to another?

If not, I agree that the ball & spring part of the mechanism might not be working. 
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RainMaker

Quote from: Valkpilot on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 00:14:16
Quote from: RainMaker on Sat 07, Jan 2012, 21:28:06
pulled the petcock off and looked down the outlet and the diaphragm is opening when I put vacuum on it.  Put the petcock back  on and on reserve, I finally got it to flow but there were bubbles in the flow.  Turned it to ON and tilted the tank back - no flow.  Turned it back to reserve and it doesn't flow with vacuum.

I think the petcock itself may be bad, i.e, ball sticking.

Are you getting positive feedback, i.e. is it clicking into place, when you move the selector from one position to another?

If not, I agree that the ball & spring part of the mechanism might not be working. 


I pulled it apart again, reset everything with a new kit and now it works.  Go figure.  The first kit was bad.  Appears the fuel diaphragm may have been the wrong one - looks different than the second one and the original.

Problem solved - now have to get the carbs clean out.  This thing runs horribly.



2005 BMW R1200 GS
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1998 Valkyrie Tourer
1981 GL1100I GoldWing
1972 CB500K1

Westsider

Did you say problems with a stock petcock, oh, ah ,er,   ever mind.   :evil: :evil:
we'll be there when we get there -   Valkless,, on lookout....

Valkpilot

Quote from: RainMaker on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 07:24:50
Quote from: Valkpilot on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 00:14:16
Quote from: RainMaker on Sat 07, Jan 2012, 21:28:06
pulled the petcock off and looked down the outlet and the diaphragm is opening when I put vacuum on it.  Put the petcock back  on and on reserve, I finally got it to flow but there were bubbles in the flow.  Turned it to ON and tilted the tank back - no flow.  Turned it back to reserve and it doesn't flow with vacuum.

I think the petcock itself may be bad, i.e, ball sticking.

Are you getting positive feedback, i.e. is it clicking into place, when you move the selector from one position to another?

If not, I agree that the ball & spring part of the mechanism might not be working. 


I pulled it apart again, reset everything with a new kit and now it works.  Go figure.  The first kit was bad.  Appears the fuel diaphragm may have been the wrong one - looks different than the second one and the original.

Problem solved - now have to get the carbs clean out.  This thing runs horribly.



I'm curious.  Was the rebuild kit an OEM cover set kit or one of the others that only has the plastic parts?

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IBA #44686
1998 Black Standard
2007 Goldwing 
 
   

Disco

Quoterebuilt the petcock with a K&L kit with new spring, diaphragms
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22 CRF450RL, 19 BMW R1250RT
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71 MT50 Trailhopper


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Valkpilot

Quote from: Disco on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 08:58:25
Quoterebuilt the petcock with a K&L kit with new spring, diaphragms

Silly me.
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IBA #44686
1998 Black Standard
2007 Goldwing 
 
   

Disco

Sorry, Dave.  I forgot to put a smiley in there.

Here goes...   :angel:
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22 CRF450RL, 19 BMW R1250RT
78 CB550K, 07 Helix
71 MT50 Trailhopper


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RainMaker

Hope you two are having a good time with this.  ;)


2005 BMW R1200 GS
2000 Valkyrie Interstate
1998 Valkyrie Tourer
1981 GL1100I GoldWing
1972 CB500K1

Valkpilot

Quote from: RainMaker on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 20:29:43
Hope you two are having a good time with this.  ;)

Well, we were, Captain Buzzkill. :coolsmiley:
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IBA #44686
1998 Black Standard
2007 Goldwing 
 
   

Disco

Neither one of us got to ride 429 miles today, so we've had to find fun somewhere else...   ;D
2000 Bumblebee Tourer, 98 Yellow & Cream Tourer, 97 Rescue blower bike
22 CRF450RL, 19 BMW R1250RT
78 CB550K, 07 Helix
71 MT50 Trailhopper


VRCC 27,916                  IBA 44,783

HayHauler

Quote from: Valkpilot on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 20:46:56
Quote from: RainMaker on Sun 08, Jan 2012, 20:29:43
Hope you two are having a good time with this.  ;)

Well, we were, Captain Buzzkill. :coolsmiley:
Uh, that would be "MR. Buzzkill".

Hay <----  only couple hundred miles today...   :angel:

Jimmyt
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