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Got more power from the Dial-A-Jet

Started by Dag, Sat 16, May 2009, 18:14:11

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Dag

Yesterday I did an experiment. I turned the pilot screws in, and only 3/4 turn out.
And switched to 2nd richest setting on the Dial-A-Jet.
The smallest hole on the Dial-A-Jet is the richest setting (when positioned like "A") and the largest hole is the leanest setting (when positioned like "B") 
http://www.valkyrienorway.com/Dial-A-Jet%20NEW.html

I tuned it so the CO is exactly the same, only getting more fuel from the DAJ and less through the carbs.





That made an huge difference... it acts like an sports bike   :D

It`s two years since I installed the DAJ, and I have been satisfied with its performance.
Yesterday`s experiment really surprised me!

The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

timk519

Doggonit Dag!  >:(  I just got mine working, and you go and write things like this! Now I'll have to go and take it apart again!   :2funny:

Cool report though.  :cooldude: I'll be curious how this affects your ride's MPG.

Dag

I have a -97, be aware of that the -97 have other carbs than the other models and require other settings.

'97
Except California type : 1 3/4 turns out
California type: 2 turns out

After '97
Except California type: 2 1/4 turns out
California type: 2 3/8 turns out
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

dreamaker

Sorry you went over my head. What do you mean by CO ?

Dan

98valk

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Dag

Quote from: dreamaker on Mon 18, May 2009, 13:00:05
Sorry you went over my head. What do you mean by CO ?

Dan

Level of Carbon Monoxide. As close to 3% as possible for best performance.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

dreamaker


garyr

Dag,

Great write up. I just bought a DAJ for another bike I own. When I spoke with them they recommend going 2-3 main jet sizes down. The leaner it runs the better the DAJ works. They claim 1 HP per 100cc. I can't wait to get mine. After seeing your write up I may do my Valkyrie...

It was interesting these work on sound waves. They were created by the guy who owned Denco racing in the 70"s. 

http://www.thunderproducts.com/dial_a_jet_techpaper.htm
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chrise2469

Dag, what type of CO tester do you have? Is it the same as posted by CA Exhaustcoatings

Thanks.


Chris

MP

It would be great if someone doing this dial a jet mod would do a dyno run on their bike, then do the mod, then take it back to the same dyno and tech, and do a run again to compare.  Seat of the pants is tough!
Thanks.
MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

Dag

Quote from: chrise2469 on Mon 18, May 2009, 22:00:25
Dag, what type of CO tester do you have? Is it the same as posted by CA Exhaustcoatings

Thanks.


Chris

BLANKE model 2500
Price was about $ 2500,00
http://www.blankeindustries.com/motorcycle.htm#CO_Series_2500

The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

Dag

Quote from: MP on Tue 19, May 2009, 06:46:50
It would be great if someone doing this dial a jet mod would do a dyno run on their bike, then do the mod, then take it back to the same dyno and tech, and do a run again to compare.  Seat of the pants is tough!
Thanks.
MP

I did, two years ago.
I HAD MY VALKYRIE DYNO TESTED WITHOUT AND WITH THE DIAL-A-JET. THE INCREASE WAS 7.7 HP.
From 101.2 HP to 108.9 HP

It was running too rich on high RPM, so I changed to #98 main jets.
I have not had a new dyno run since changing the jets.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

dreamaker

Dag, After  your changes how did the plugs look?

Dan

Dag

With all the carb adjustments / experiments I have done during the last three years I really dont remember.
I do check the spark plugs, but the CO tester tells me much more. The plugs can indicate things, but the CO tester can tell me exact.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

dreamaker

#14
Dag, Did you replace your needles in your carbs, if so what notch did you use. I am at second and concidering going to the first. I have FactoryPro.

Dan

Dag

Quote from: dreamaker on Wed 20, May 2009, 06:46:58
Dag, Did you replace your needles in your carbs, if so what notch did you use. I am at second and concidering going to the first. I have FactoryPro.

Dan

Yes, I have changed the needles. I used the jet-kit that followed the Viking Exhaust.
It`s on the second notch.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

98valk

Quote from: Dag on Wed 20, May 2009, 09:19:30
Quote from: dreamaker on Wed 20, May 2009, 06:46:58
Dag, Did you replace your needles in your carbs, if so what notch did you use. I am at second and concidering going to the first. I have FactoryPro.

Dan

Yes, I have changed the needles. I used the jet-kit that followed the Viking Exhaust.
It`s on the second notch.

The viking exhaust needles are dyna-jet needles and are richer than the FP ones. I have both sets.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Dag

I have a dyna-jet kit in my garage. The needles in that kit is not the same as I got from Viking.
The Viking needles are Titanium.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

98valk

Quote from: Dag on Wed 20, May 2009, 14:04:45
I have a dyna-jet kit in my garage. The needles in that kit is not the same as I got from Viking.
The Viking needles are Titanium.

I should clarified, I do not know about the difference in material but I can see that the taper is the same btwn the dyna's and the vikings. I recently picked up a set of V pipes and the needles. I will check my two sets for difference in material. Tapers could be different I guess if matters if there were different revisions. I know my sets have the same exact tapers or the viking needles sent to me are not the org viking needles.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798