For the politically "undecided"

[Fudd]

http://youtu.be/nWVL7TptQ24

To someone that is a hard core Obama supporter, this video will not make any difference in their beliefs.  That said, I would doubt that some people could ever find OJ Simpson guilty, even if we had 8 by 10 inch color glossys of him caught in the act.

I do believe, as in the "OJ" case, there're a few people that would change their minds if sufficient proof was put before them.  Some people will remain unchanged, no matter what.  It's like, "don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind."

This video amounts to "color glossys" of Obama lying and making false promises while doing just the opposite actions.  Yes, it's constructed of sound bytes.  But nothing is taken out of context.  It's just trimmed down from the retoric and filler he uses to mask the true content.  Compare that to his real actions and anyone objective will see the differences.

Being the White House press spokesman for Obama has to be the toughest job in America.

BTW, Bernie Madoff was able to sell his "investments" all the way 'till his empire crashed.

[Clark]

TOTAL BS.. but the koolaid drinkers CANT see it

[BF]

It would be interesting to hear from the liberals here that continue to defend Obama and why do they still want to vote for him.  

Obama Un-narrated Documentary/Review (in his own words)

[Patrick]

I just looked at 3 polls and they all have obama ahead.. Unbelievable !!

[Oss]

perception is a bitch

Fact is that many believe that the republican will
raise taxes for all but the rich and will cut  the taxes of the rich
will overturn Roe v Wade and ban abortions
will eliminate all government programs that help the poor, the old
the sick
will get us into another war


Although I am not an Obama supporter (no surprise)
unless the republican candidate can show a plan for tax fairness that doesnt look
like the rich are getting a free pass (even if some of them are high earners themselves)
and assure women that their daughters will be able to have an abortion he is in
a tougher fight than most on this board believe is the case

The women I encounter here in Westchester
(as opposed to my clients in the Bronx)
seem to have these as their central issues, not the economy, the irresponsible printing
of money, or the runaway debt

not scientific poll but a cause for concern

[musclehead]

perception is a bitch

Fact is that many believe that the republican will
raise taxes for all but the rich and will cut  the taxes of the rich
will overturn Roe v Wade and ban abortions
will eliminate all government programs that help the poor, the old
the sick
will get us into another war


Although I am not an Obama supporter (no surprise)
unless the republican candidate can show a plan for tax fairness that doesnt look
like the rich are getting a free pass (even if some of them are high earners themselves)
and assure women that their daughters will be able to have an abortion he is in
a tougher fight than most on this board believe is the case

The women I encounter here in Westchester
(as opposed to my clients in the Bronx)
seem to have these as their central issues, not the economy, the irresponsible printing
of money, or the runaway debt

not scientific poll but a cause for concern

that is specifically why the left has made this jinned up war on women to keep the uniformed from voting for Romney.
ask them how they repubs would overturn roe v. wade? the Supreme court?
ask them if they know that Ryan's plan doesn't change the SS system for those over 55?
ask them if they would support tax cuts for all? (we should'nt raise taxes in a weak economy- B. Obama)
who are we going to go to war with? answer.... no one

[musclehead]

we are so polarized as a country the undecided is only around %8.

24,800,000 people still haven't been paying attention, that's ALOT 

the good news for Romney is ALL of them buy gas and food, and deserved or not the Prez is gonna get the blame.....

[donaldcc]

 
  wow!  those videos have gone viral.  394 views.  awesome. 

[Rams]

Hard to say, I don't necessarily believe the pollsters, I took a couple of those classes in college and learned that a poll is easily manipulated.  My perspective of who the general population is supporting is skewed in that, I only know a small percentage of the voting populace.  Regardless, I do agree with Oss, there is a huge division on who to support and what direction to take.  Both parties have their problems and both are trying to convince that small percentage of undecided voters to go their way.  I find it hard to believe there are very many undecided voters out there but, my limited view doesn't allow me to see them I guess.  

I do agree with Oss in that minority voters and women will play a huge role in who gets elected.   What I don't want folks to forget is that there is more than just a Presidential election going on and if you are concerned that our current administration is going to be there for another four years. I strongly urge you to vote for a counter balance in the House and Senate races.

[musclehead]

 
  wow!  those videos have gone viral.  394 views.  awesome. 

out since sept 6th, not quite as popular as the talking dog/cat. give it time ....

[6shutr]

The concept of Equal Outcome, or Collectivism as Obama and his minions believe is a Utopian Socialist myth. Even Plato, often credited as one of the originators of the concept of a Utopian society, acknowledged that it was futile, and unobtainable. It should be clear to all by now that Obama is a fraud, whose words consistently ring contrary to his beliefs and deeds. His inexperience and ineptness often overshadow his radical iedological agenda but it has become very clear that agenda is to fundamentally transform America into a Socialist Oligarcy, and that is the only thing, although unintentional, I'm sure,  that can be claimed transparent about this President, and his Administration. Some may knowingly or unknowlingly choose to peacefully surrender the Freedom that so many have fought, died and sacrificed to preserve to keep America Great, by voting for Obama and his dreams, and that is their right as Free Americans. The irony is they will be voting against the very Freedom that gives us all the right to vote in a free and open election........my2cents...rick 

[Patrick]

I have a neighbor and friend that is a die-hard New York democrat.. He is also a life long labor union member and now the union employed official so you know his stance.. His clothes are always wet and stained from the kool-aid running out of his ears.. He insists that obama is the greatest president we have ever had and is literally in love with that man.. He is convinced that Republicans are the most evil people on earth.. Facts and past records do nothing for people like this,, they just refuse to listen or look into anything on their own.. Maybe life is easier that way..  

[BF]

 
 wow!  those videos have gone viral.  394 views.  awesome.  

Donald.....

Instead of dazzling us with your witty repartee (did I spell that correctly Don?) or a non answer gibberish like Paxton does, would you please explain to the class exactly what it is that enamors you so with Obumer?  

Is it your hate for Bush...the Republicans...conservatives....what?  I really want to know Don?  Do you love Obumer that much, or do you hate the right even more to the point that you're willling to overlook Obumer's, uh, shortcomings to advance your hate for the right?

btw.....That video is now over thirty nine thousand views.....just so ya know.   

[musclehead]

 
 wow!  those videos have gone viral.  394 views.  awesome.  

Donald.....

Instead of dazzling us with your witty repartee (did I spell that correctly Don?) or a non answer gibberish like Paxton does, would you please explain to the class exactly what it is that enamors you so with Obumer?  

Is it your hate for Bush...the Republicans...conservatives....what?  I really want to know Don?  Do you love Obumer that much, or do you hate the right even more to the point that you're willling to overlook Obumer's, uh, shortcomings to advance your hate for the right?

btw.....That video is now over thirty nine thousand views.....just so ya know.   

51,000 as of 11:30 sunday morning

[donaldcc]

   
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

[39 Chev]

   
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

Actually, only 19,999 times because I watched it and so did my wife...

I know it has been said before, but this election is SO important.  It really will decide what kind of country we want.  For me, if Obama wins re-election, I will be selling my house and doing a major downsizing.  For the first time in my life, I am very worried about the future of this country...not so much because of Obama, but if he is reelected, I will know that the majority of the voting public has bought into this fundamental change in our liberties and responsibilities.

[musclehead]

   
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

my eyes!  my bandwidth!    nah but I did watch some cool prank vids on youtube 

[BF]

   
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

Why is it that EVERY time I ask someone from the left why they'll vote for Obama, I get a non-answer?

It's beginning to be really strange and more than a little troubling that people from the left go to such lengths to avoid answering the question.

Is it Bush's fault you can't answer donald?   

[..]

I'm looking forward to "sharing the prosperity" of Donaldcc and Paxton if PresBO get re-elected. Along with all the stuff belongin to other liberal/progressives. I hope they realize that their $$$$$ are up for grabs as well!

Paxton has more than one bike and I only have one so I need to share his extra bikes.

What you mean that isn't the way it works. Shock, horror. One can only share the prosperity of a non Obamam voter/supporter. Bunch of complete bollocks and idiots are guzzling it up like mothers milk. Brain dead people without the ability to reason.

[donaldcc]

 
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

Why is it that EVERY time I ask someone from the left why they'll vote for Obama, I get a non-answer?

It's beginning to be really strange and more than a little troubling that people from the left go to such lengths to avoid answering the question.

Is it Bush's fault you can't answer donald?    

 BF i don't really think you give a crap about any explanations I may have.  Seems like you are just trying to be controversial.  Go for it, i could give a crap.  your characterizations of my political leanings seem to be based on your attempts to stimulate support for your politilcal and religious philosophy.

 don't think you care to have any understanding of my beliefs but are merely seeking some response you can hold up for attack.  i have no reason at all to attempt to change your rigid views and certainly do not need to bring in Bush as a reason.  If i happen to make some caustic comment about a far right wing BS video, it does not mean i lurk on the far left.

  follow your party line and hide in the safety of those that may be supportive of your views and when you post a baiting, derogatory post, hope you will get a response you can attack and hold up to support you.  will make you feel better and as if your opinions are the ones the world should adhere to.  fortunately this is still a place where people can form their own opinions about life and disagree with those they oppose.

[donaldcc]

Britman if you are ever at my house you will see how i would likely share almost anything with you. 

[musclehead]

 
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

Why is it that EVERY time I ask someone from the left why they'll vote for Obama, I get a non-answer?

It's beginning to be really strange and more than a little troubling that people from the left go to such lengths to avoid answering the question.

Is it Bush's fault you can't answer donald?    

 BF i don't really think you give a crap about any explanations I may have.  Seems like you are just trying to be controversial.  Go for it, i could give a crap.  your characterizations of my political leanings seem to be based on your attempts to stimulate support for your politilcal and religious philosophy.

 don't think you care to have any understanding of my beliefs but are merely seeking some response you can hold up for attack.  i have no reason at all to attempt to change your rigid views and certainly do not need to bring in Bush as a reason.  If i happen to make some caustic comment about a far right wing BS video, it does not mean i lurk on the far left.

  follow your party line and hide in the safety of those that may be supportive of your views and when you post a baiting, derogatory post, hope you will get a response you can attack and hold up to support you.  will make you feel better and as if your opinions are the ones the world should adhere to.  fortunately this is still a place where people can form their own opinions about life and disagree with those they oppose.

we can build some consensus, can we agree it is a very bad thing to be 16 trillion in debt? regardless of the party responsible?
can we agree that many, many people are gaming the system and could (if there were jobs available) support themselves?
I'm more interested in the truth then party affiliation, if you told me Bush 2 was a bad president I'd tell you he did indeed do bad things.

[donaldcc]

   yep, we can agree debt is bad and many problems with our current economics exist.  changes need to come and we all want them to happen.  world economics and politics sometimes make that a difficult task. 

[musclehead]

   yep, we can agree debt is bad and many problems with our current economics exist.  changes need to come and we all want them to happen.  world economics and politics sometimes make that a difficult task. 

so we gotta cut the spending, even if we raise taxes later, the economy is too weak to do more then sputter along with out some serious help. there will be pain for all, it's not a popular view and certainly one that won't win an election bid, but we have to restart the economy.

[O-B-1]

I have decided that my vote doesn't really count, after all.

The politicians do not get elected by popular vote but through electoral college.

Once they are in office they are all cut from the same warp & woof. Corruption is bi-partisan. They vote which ever way the lobbbyist direct them with their kick backs, campaign funds, etc.

If you think your vote counts, I own the Brooklyn Bridge and I will trade it for a low-miles Valkyrie Tourer...

Just keep on drinkin' da Kool-Aid.... Mmmmm.....

Find the ones that will bring the jobs back to the good ole US of A.... That is the solution. But ya have to force the corporate execs to do so... WHho has the kahonas and backbone to do that? None of the dishrags running... I don't care which party they are with. They are as bad of a drain as the people on welfare, if not more so - After all, they produce nothing and are on the take, also.

[BF]

 
come on BF and Musclehead.  you are not tricking me.  i know that both of you watched that video 20,000 times each.

Why is it that EVERY time I ask someone from the left why they'll vote for Obama, I get a non-answer?

It's beginning to be really strange and more than a little troubling that people from the left go to such lengths to avoid answering the question.

Is it Bush's fault you can't answer donald?    

 BF i don't really think you give a crap about any explanations I may have.  Seems like you are just trying to be controversial.  Go for it, i could give a crap.  your characterizations of my political leanings seem to be based on your attempts to stimulate support for your politilcal and religious philosophy.

 don't think you care to have any understanding of my beliefs but are merely seeking some response you can hold up for attack.  i have no reason at all to attempt to change your rigid views and certainly do not need to bring in Bush as a reason.  If i happen to make some caustic comment about a far right wing BS video, it does not mean i lurk on the far left.

  follow your party line and hide in the safety of those that may be supportive of your views and when you post a baiting, derogatory post, hope you will get a response you can attack and hold up to support you.  will make you feel better and as if your opinions are the ones the world should adhere to.  fortunately this is still a place where people can form their own opinions about life and disagree with those they oppose.

I don't know where you get that I'm baiting you or where anything derogatory was posted.  I asked you a simple question donald.  Nothing more, nothing less, nothing nefarious donald......just a simple question.  A question that you went to great lengths to avoid answering.

It's a honest question donald.  I, like alot of other folks, find that most of what Obama does and what he stands for reprehensible.  I'm trying to understand why you and other Obama supports don't find those things as reprehensible as we do.....or is it that you turn a blind eye.....or is it something else?

I didn't mean to get your panties in a wad donald, I just asked you a simple quesiton.   

[czuch]

It dosent matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes.
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