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Finding stuff on the Valk! Some questions.

Started by GreenLantern57, Mon 08, Jun 2009, 22:33:26

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GreenLantern57

I raised the back of the tank to get the tank off the middle velocity tube. Tubes are scratching the paint and rubbing the metal. Damn things are too tall for the standard tank bolt down. I have 4 standard thicknes washers under the tank and 4 shim thickness washers under each bolt for the seat lock.  Thinking about taking the tank off and denting the tank where the velocity stack is chipping the paint.    :uglystupid2:

Meanwhile, I did find a KN air filter in the air cleaner box. Needs to be cleaned and oiled. Not that dirty, but seems to be dried a bit.
Opened a factory plugged line that exits under the engine. It had about 4 table spoons of water/foamy oil in it. It is the largest of the 3 tubes uner the engine. 

I do not have a mechanics book yet and have a question!

There is a small tube under the tank and it does not go anywhere. Is this a screw-up on the previous owners?  It goes down about 4 inches, tees, then exits under the engine. There is nothing else connected at the tee. What is the purpose of this line? Vent?
What is this line and what should it be hooked too?

ssober

the tube sounds like a tank vent, the rest is unknown to me
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Kingbee

It's the tank vent, & should be connected to the rear of the tank.  The T is there in case the lower portion gets clogged, and also so it doesn't draw up any water or dirt.
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Dennis Klinefelt

The factory pluged line is suppose to be drained on a regular basis.......someone dubed it Dragon Drool...anyway..if you go to BigBf's site he sells a spacer for the front of the tank that will solve your problem...Rock on,,,,

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Quote from: Dennis Klinefelt on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 04:43:43
The factory pluged line is suppose to be drained on a regular basis.......someone dubed it Dragon Drool...
The fluid which collects in that line is also carcinogenic. Don't get it on your skin if at all possible.

MP

That line collects the moisture, oil, etc that collects in the airbox.  Uncap, and drain every so often.  Depends mostly on humidity in your area.  Make sure you recap the line, otherwise you leave an unfiltered air source open to your engine.  Not good.
The line with the tee is tank vent.  The tee portion is correct.  Just make sure it is connected to the bottom rear of your tank, and not kinked.

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Grandpot

As Dennis said, the line with the plug under the engine is a drain line.  When condensation forms in the engine it is collected in a trap inside the engine at the other end of this tube.  The book says to remove the plug and let it drain every 2,000 miles.  The first couple of times you do it you will get about a 1/2 oz of water and oil mix.  After that, if you do it on a regular basis you will get only water and no oil.

I've never seen another engine with a condensation collector, but then there is nothing else like a Valkyrie. :cooldude:
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Spirited-6

Quote from: Doctor_J on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 07:58:33
As Dennis said, the line with the plug under the engine is a drain line.  When condensation forms in the engine it is collected in a trap inside the engine at the other end of this tube.  The book says to remove the plug and let it drain every 2,000 miles.  The first couple of times you do it you will get about a 1/2 oz of water and oil mix.  After that, if you do it on a regular basis you will get only water and no oil.

I've never seen another engine with a condensation collector, but then there is nothing else like a Valkyrie. :cooldude:
I have "NEVER" had any condensation in the tube. Is something wrong with my Valk. ???  :-\
Spirited-6

Grandpot

Quote from: Spirited-6 on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 08:29:29
Quote from: Doctor_J on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 07:58:33
As Dennis said, the line with the plug under the engine is a drain line.  When condensation forms in the engine it is collected in a trap inside the engine at the other end of this tube.  The book says to remove the plug and let it drain every 2,000 miles.  The first couple of times you do it you will get about a 1/2 oz of water and oil mix.  After that, if you do it on a regular basis you will get only water and no oil.

I've never seen another engine with a condensation collector, but then there is nothing else like a Valkyrie. :cooldude:
I have "NEVER" had any condensation in the tube. Is something wrong with my Valk. ???  :-\

I live in South Carolina and there is a lot of humidity. That may be why I have condensation.  Another reason could be riding styles.  If you take long trips, the moisture in the engine will burn off.  If you only take short trips, the moisture collects.  It's sort of like the moisture you get in a cold exhaust compared to a hot exhaust.

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GreenLantern57

Thanks for the replies,  I was pointed to a site that has a PDF of the service manual!  Thanks again!

Garland

Thinking about taking the tank off and denting the tank where the velocity stack is chipping the paint.    uglystupid2


When I first installed V-Stacks eight or nine years ago, I filed down the edge of two stacks so they wouldn't ruin my custom paint job. I recently replaced those stacks with new ones, because the chrome was pitting. This time I used a Big BF spacer to raise the tank, which worked well. I also installed his screens in the stacks, painted red.

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DeathWishBikerDude

The factory manual,while being available online also,has all the parts diagrams,wiring diagrams,and other exploded views of every part,nut,bolt, washer,with part numbers.
You can probably print them yourself,but ink is expensive.
I'd rather have the book with me when I need it.
Especially for the $30.

mikeb

i copied this from the national site but it beats looking for it
Service Manual:

http://www.valkyrienorway.com/1520manual/valkyriegl1500.zip
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Hopefully you grabbed the manual.
It's gone.
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greggh

If you are going to raise the tank by shimming the front and back mounting bolts give thought to supporting the tank underneath along the frame.
It was suggested to me by a friend who has seen the Valks come into his shop with broken mounting flanges.
You lift the tank an all the weight of a full tank of gas road bumps can cause undo stress to the mount flanges.

I just took a radiator hose split it down the middle and zip tied it to the frame and it gives a much tighter fit.
Better safe then sorry.

GreenLantern57

Quote from: greggh on Sat 13, Jun 2009, 18:38:26
If you are going to raise the tank by shimming the front and back mounting bolts give thought to supporting the tank underneath along the frame.
It was suggested to me by a friend who has seen the Valks come into his shop with broken mounting flanges.
You lift the tank an all the weight of a full tank of gas road bumps can cause undo stress to the mount flanges.

I just took a radiator hose split it down the middle and zip tied it to the frame and it gives a much tighter fit.
Better safe then sorry.

Haven't read that about stressing the mounts. Makes sense though! The tank would be off the factory rubber mounts and able to move side to side.  I shimmed under the back mount but, put the oversized washers under the rubber mount.  I think I will re-do the washers splitting the difference front and back and adding some rubber over the factory mounts.

Hoser

Quote from: Doctor_J on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 07:58:33
As Dennis said, the line with the plug under the engine is a drain line.  When condensation forms in the engine it is collected in a trap inside the engine at the other end of this tube.  The book says to remove the plug and let it drain every 2,000 miles.  The first couple of times you do it you will get about a 1/2 oz of water and oil mix.  After that, if you do it on a regular basis you will get only water and no oil.

I've never seen another engine with a condensation collector, but then there is nothing else like a Valkyrie. :cooldude:
My old CB750 had one.  Hoser
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MP

I put an IS tank on my standard, and I have the tank shimmed for velocity stacks, but only in the front.  When I put the tank on, I have to push it down on the rubber bumpers in the middle. So, it is tight for side to side motion.  Does anyone know if without the shim on the tank, the tank sits ON TOP of the rubbers, or are they still just holding for side to side motion?
Mine is snug going over the rubbers.
MP

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GreenLantern57

Quote from: Hoser on Mon 15, Jun 2009, 07:15:40
Quote from: Doctor_J on Tue 09, Jun 2009, 07:58:33
As Dennis said, the line with the plug under the engine is a drain line.  When condensation forms in the engine it is collected in a trap inside the engine at the other end of this tube.  The book says to remove the plug and let it drain every 2,000 miles.  The first couple of times you do it you will get about a 1/2 oz of water and oil mix.  After that, if you do it on a regular basis you will get only water and no oil.

I've never seen another engine with a condensation collector, but then there is nothing else like a Valkyrie. :cooldude:
My old CB750 had one.  Hoser
My '83 V-65 Magna had one.