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What Iran is Really Doing and Why Western Nations are Confused at this Point

Started by BigAl, Thu 11, Oct 2012, 07:40:02

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BigAl

Da`wah is intended to changing our minds and our behavior and to subverting our mode of thinking. It is a cultural coercive strategy aimed at toppling democratic liberal regimes and eliminating freedoms and civil rights; and by infiltrating Western technology and society's fabrics with the aim to destroying them from within.

Da'wah as the call to repent and accept Allah or convert to Isam.

4 Different ocaasions, Adminajhad, has voiced this to the whole world at the United Nations.

This must be done to give the Infedel, non' believers an option to convert before the nation or world is attacked.

He has given warning and you and I are not even aware of it, or don't recognise it, it is foriegn to our western thinking.

We have had our chance.

Now through Military might(NUKES) we will have to be killed or turn to Allah.

You think it is impossible that a Super Power, the US, could be affected by this.

You are wrong.

EMP effect a byproduct of a large explosion, if air burst could shut all computers down on the majority of the east coast of AMerica.

Do it on the west coast, same thing, anything built before 1970 will shut down unless shielded.

Iran has already tested this froma ship and we thought they had failed the rocket that is.

That was not the goal, to shoot it all the way here, shoot it up to 30,000 feet and airburst the nuke, Total shut down of electronics.

People builidings and things would not be damaged, but people would die in car werecks , plane crashes and hospitals to say the least.

This is a confirmed strategy of the Iranians.

Just think about what I have said. It is already in motion.

We cannot stop a rougue ship at sea with this strategy, they know it.

Iran is a danger to the entire world to further the religion of Allah. is the back drop.

Prove me wrong you can't .

His Dawah has been given, now according to his religion, War is warranted if we do not convert.

'Сurrent world order based on injustice': Ahmadinejad full 2012 UN speech


BigAl

Oh By the way Amadinajhad, did engineer and lead the Hostage Crisis we had under Carter, as our Ambassadors and staff  were

held hostage until Reagan was elected, then let go.

Reagan got in trouble with arms deals through the Iranians, in the Iran-Contra scandal.

The Iran- Contra, arms deals were to arm the rebels against Nicaraguans, to defeat Communism under Danial Ortega.

This goes on and on.

Iran will be shaping the narrative and the world for a long time to come

We will be at war with them before the next decade is done.

Get ready.



BigAl

Quote from: Regis on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 08:28:10
Glenn Beck

NOPE from Big AL,

I am nobodies puppet.

I stay infomed by many sources.

Pasted the top line from Wikipedia. The rest is me.

Regis

no sorry , I just meant it sounded like a GB story , thats all . You see whats going on in Mali ?

Robert

What you said is correct except on 2 points a EMP will disable most all devices regardless of date a Faraday box may work but also have problems. Next Ahmadinejad views himself as a Eman and knowing as we do that the end is near wants to usher in Allah. Just like our Bible has that the end will not come till all the martyrs is filled the Quran has its own version of it. So what to do,, start a war that will fill the requirements to usher in Allah early. There is 2 problems with this thinking from the pres of Iran. One it is God the great I AM that is God not Allah and 2 He has His own time plan that only He knows and it will come in His time. Not as a result of mans intervening. If we could usher in the end and it wasn't in Gods timing then what kind of god would that be? God predicted through the Bible that there would be a one world government. In recent times I would say the 90s this was thought of as a fairy tale. Or even a allegory, well we find out that now its becoming a reality and the only book that really laid out history has been the Bible. The Bible is also the only book that tells the begining and the end. So we see that God had it all laid out from the beginning. All the stories of mans book and people wrote it instead of God writing the Bible pales in light of the prophecy that has been fulfilled as a demonstration of Gods sovereignty over the affairs of man. The percentages are astronomical of the prophecies that have come true. Take comfort that God has not abandoned us He knows times and tides and His plans will be fulfilled. He also looks out for those that loves Him.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

BigAl

Quote from: Robert on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 09:32:46
What you said is correct except on 2 points a EMP will disable most all devices regardless of date a Faraday box may work but also have problems. Next Ahmadinejad views himself as a Eman and knowing as we do that the end is near wants to usher in Allah. Just like our Bible has that the end will not come till all the martyrs is filled the Quran has its own version of it. So what to do,, start a war that will fill the requirements to usher in Allah early. There is 2 problems with this thinking from the pres of Iran. One it is God the great I AM that is God not Allah and 2 He has His own time plan that only He knows and it will come in His time. Not as a result of mans intervening. If we could usher in the end and it wasn't in Gods timing then what kind of god would that be? God predicted through the Bible that there would be a one world government. In recent times I would say the 90s this was thought of as a fairy tale. Or even a allegory, well we find out that now its becoming a reality and the only book that really laid out history has been the Bible. The Bible is also the only book that tells the begining and the end. So we see that God had it all laid out from the beginning. All the stories of mans book and people wrote it instead of God writing the Bible pales in light of the prophecy that has been fulfilled as a demonstration of Gods sovereignty over the affairs of man. The percentages are astronomical of the prophecies that have come true. Take comfort that God has not abandoned us He knows times and tides and His plans will be fulfilled. He also looks out for those that loves Him.

You are spot on in your theology, but Ad Boy is following his theology and it's effects will be real, even though the Great I am is in full

control of the way the world as it is now will end. Those that love and are waiting for Christs return, it is not the end only the beginning.

Iran is fully capable of dveloping a weapon today, and already has one, they are biding thier time.

Implosion Explosive tests are already complete.

If you know anything about a  fission device, you should be very concerned.

Lulling everyone into a false sense of security.

BigAl

I do not at this time think Israel is the 1st target.

It is us.

Think about it.

Take us out or injure us and Israel will be easy pickens and a foot note.

Then there is Yawah the protector of Israel

Now it gets interesting.

Regis


doubleminded

when " a great mountain falling from the sky" hits 1/3 of the earth will be scorched.I would imagine our 1/3 since the middle east needs to be intact for the last war.Now more than ever is the day of salvation.
Jesus likes vakyries.

czuch

A ship off the coast of Califonia and North Carolina and one in the Gulf-o-Mexico.
Then pull the plug for martyrdom and no evidence. Two missiles each with different trajectories.
POOF!  Welcome to 1834.
Aot of guys with burn marks,gnarly scars and funny twitches ask why I spend so much on safety gear

BigAl

Quote from: czuch on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 10:22:14
A ship off the coast of Califonia and North Carolina and one in the Gulf-o-Mexico.
Then pull the plug for martyrdom and no evidence. Two missiles each with different trajectories.
POOF!  Welcome to 1834.

Exactly.

BigAl

Quote from: Regis on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 10:03:48
oh didnt know this was  Bible Study , I'm gone .

Sadly not a Bible Study, it is a reality.

Iran exists,

We exist,

Not Biblically related but here and now Dude, don't be offended please.

BF

This is gonna be really long, but please read every word.......



If you don't know why Iran is the single greatest threat to the world today and what the ergency is, then maybe this will explain it for you.......



"Why would Iran authorize a major terrorist operation on American soil? Skeptics say the much-discussed "foiled" Iranian plot makes no sense. We will know soon enough if the Feds have sufficient evidence related to this specific plot. But Iranian leaders may, in fact, have a motive to accelerate direct attacks on the U.S.: Shia Islamic eschatology, or "End Times" theology.

Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are convinced that the End of Days has come. They believe the Shia messiah known as the "Twelfth Imam" or the "Mahdi" will appear soon to establish a global Islamic kingdom known as the caliphate.   
What's more, they believe the way to hasten the coming of the Twelfth Imam is to annihilate Israel (which they call the "Little Satan"), and the United States (which they call the "Great Satan"). We should not, therefore, be surprised that Iran is probing for weaknesses in American intelligence and homeland security.

Khamenei told Iranians in July 2010 that he personally met with the Twelfth Imam. He also claimed to be the personal representative of the Mahdi on earth, and said all Muslims must "obey him." Meanwhile, Western intelligence agencies say he continues to work with Ahmadinejad and the Iranian military to develop nuclear warheads and the ballistic missiles to deliver them.

Much of the media has focused on Iran's threats to wipe Israel "off the map." But journalists have generally ignored the fact that the Iranian regime is equally determined to destroy the United States.

On October 26, 2005, for example, Ahmadinejad said, "God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism."

On June 2, 2008, Ahmadinejad said, "Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come, and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

Iran's leaders actually believe that the destruction of the U.S. is foreordained, just as the Soviet Union's implosion was predetermined. They see U.S. economic weakness as a sign that the end of America is near.

Other signs include President Obama's political weakness in the polls and his unwillingness to use force against Iran even after the Iranian murder of Americans in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon over the years.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sees the gravity of the situation. "The Obama presidency has two great missions: fixing the economy, and preventing Iran from gaining nuclear weapons," he told The Atlantic magazine in March 2009. "You don't want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs," Netanyahu said of the Iranian leadership. "When the wide-eyed believer gets hold of the reins of power and the weapons of mass death, then the entire world should start worrying, and that is what is happening in Iran."'

Unfortunately, Netanyahu hasn't seen the Obama administration strengthen the American economy or take decisive measures to stop Iran from getting the Bomb, and he is getting anxious. "The international community must stop Iran before it's too late," Netanyahu warned in his United Nations speech last month. "If Iran is not stopped, we will all face the specter of nuclear terrorism, and the Arab Spring could soon become an Iranian winter....The world around Israel is definitely becoming more dangerous."

To truly understand how just how dangerous Iran's regime really is, American leaders need to better understand Shia eschatology.

The Twelfth Imam was a real, flesh-and-blood person who, like the eleven Shia leaders who went before him, was an Arab male, a direct descendent of the founder of Islam, and was thought to have been divinely chosen to be the spiritual guide and ultimate human authority of the Muslim people. His actual name was Muhammad Ibn Hasan Ibn Ali, and it is generally believed by Shias that he was born in Samarra, Iraq, in AD 868.

At a very young age, however, Ali vanished from society. Some say he was four years old, while others say five and some say six. Some believe he fell into a well in Samarra but his body was never recovered. Others believe the Mahdi's mother placed him in the well to prevent evil rulers from capturing him and killing him, and that little Ali subsequently became supernaturally invisible. This is where the term "Hidden Imam" is derived, as Shias believe that Ali is not dead but has simply been hidden from the sight of mankind – Shias refer to this as "occultation" – until the End of Days, when Allah will reveal him once again.

Shias believe the Mahdi will return in the last days to establish righteousness, justice, and peace. When he comes, they say, the Mahdi will bring Jesus with him. Jesus will be a Muslim and will serve as his deputy, not as King of kings and Lord of lords as the Bible teaches, and he will force non-Muslims to choose between following the Mahdi or death.

By most accounts, Shia scholars believe the Mahdi will first appear in Mecca and conquer the Middle East, then establish the headquarters of his global Islamic government—or caliphate—in Iraq. But there is not universal agreement. Some believe he will emerge from the well at the Jamkaran Mosque in Iran and then travel to Mecca and Iraq. Some say that he will conquer Jerusalem before establishing his caliphate in Iraq. Others believe Jerusalem must be conquered as a prerequisite to his return.

None of this is actually written in the Kuran, and Sunnis reject this eschatology.

But one thing that is fairly well agreed upon among devout "Twelvers" is that the Mahdi will end apostasy and purify corruption within Islam. He is expected to conquer the Arabian Peninsula, Jordan, Syria, "Palestine," Egypt and North Africa, and eventually the entire world. During this time, he and Jesus will kill between 60 and 80 percent of the world's population, specifically those who refuse to convert to Islam.

Ayatollah Ibrahim Amini, a professor at the Religious Learning Centre in Qom, wrote a noteworthy book entitled, Al-Imam al-Mahdi, the Just Leader of Humanity, describing the connection between Shia eschatology and Iranian foreign policy. "Those who persist in their disbelief and wickedness shall be killed by the soldiers of the Mahdi," wrote Amini. "The only victorious government in the entire world will be that of Islam, and people will devotedly endeavor to protect it. Islam will be the religion of everyone, and will enter all the nations of the world. . . .The Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and the Christians; if they accept it they will be spared, otherwise they will be killed. . . . It seems unlikely that this catastrophe can be avoided. . . . Warfare and bloodshed [are] inevitable. . . The Imam of the Age and his supporters will overcome the forces of disbelief and godless materialism by undertaking jihad."

In light of such End Times theology, we shouldn't be surprised that the Iranian regime is taking a more aggressive posture towards the U.S. and Israel. Instead, we should be taking decisive measures to prevent Iran from blind-siding us in the not-too-distant future with a nuclear terrorist attack or even an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack.

Unfortunately, most of Washington and the world's leadership is asleep to the prospect of this gathering storm. It is time to wake up, before it's too late."


Joel C. Rosenberg



AHMADINEJAD WAS STANDING ON THE FLOOR OF U.N. JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO PROCLAIMING THE RETURN OF THEIR IMAN. 

This country needs to wake the heck up......and NOW!!!



"The first thing you've got to do is study and understand what we're up against. You must realize that this is not a religion that you're fighting against. You're fighting against a theo-political belief system and construct. You're fighting against something that's been doing this thing since 622 AD - 7th century - 1388 years. You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why he was fighting the Muslim army at the Battle of Tours in 732? You want to ask the Venetian fleet at LePonto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? You want to ask the Christian – I mean the Germanic and Austrian – knights why they were fighting at the gates of Vienna in 1683? You want to ask people what happened at Constantinople and why today it's called Istanbul? Because they lost that fight in 1543. You need to get into the Qur'an, you need to understand their precepts, you need to read the Sunnah, you need to read the Hadith and then you can really understand this is not a perversion: They are doing exactly what this book says. I want to close by saying this, and I think we've said this all through this morning so far: Until we get principled leadership in the United States that is willing to say that, we will continue to chase our tail, because we will never clearly define who this enemy is and then understand their goals and objectives - which is on any jihadist website - and then come up with the right and proper goals and objectives to not only secure our republic, but to secure western civilization. "

Congressman Allen West, Lt Col, retired Army

Sura 9:5 says, "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them




This might explain a few things too......



http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010081111313/life-and-science/culture-wars/muslim-inbreeding-impacts-on-intelligence-sanity-health-and-society.html


"Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring's intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings.The most famous example of inbreeding is in ancient Egypt, where several Pharaonic dynasties collapsed after a couple of hundred years. In order to keep wealth and power within the family, the Pharaohs often married their own sister or half-sister and after a handful of generations the offspring were mentally and physically unfit to rule.

Another historical example is the royal houses of Europe where royal families often married among each other because tradition did not allow them to marry people of non-royal class.

The high amount of mentally retarded and handicapped royalties throughout European history shows the unhealthy consequences of this practice. Luckily, the royal families have now allowed themselves to marry for love and not just for status.

The Muslim culture still practices inbreeding and has been doing so for longer than any Egyptian dynasty. This practice also predates the world's oldest monarchy (the Danish) by 300 years.

A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred:
In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants"

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).

A large part of inbred Muslims are born from parents who are themselves inbred - which increase the risks of negative mental and physical consequenses greatly."

I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



ricoman

Thanks, BA for a good post.
Those who do not agree that this very strong possibilty (likelyhood?) exists should do some research on the subject.
You said "after 1970" and you meant "before" - pre-electronic ignition and engine control.
I'm gonna start looking for some old beater car from the 60's. Trouble is the fun ones are too expensive (Mustangs, Camaros, etc.) and what's left are $hit boxes-I'll find something. Just got a new bicycle, so I'm good there. Maybe an old pick up.
take personal responsibility and keep your word



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GJS

Quote from: BF on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 11:10:46

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).

A large part of inbred Muslims are born from parents who are themselves inbred - which increase the risks of negative mental and physical consequenses greatly."


Very strong argument, and well presented.

Can you speak to where the Stats come from?  I'm interested because if there true I'd like to share them with some other folks I know. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting you are lying, it is just that I have seen this sort of detail tossed around before, when in fact someone just made it up. In this case it has a ring of truth and I'd like to confirm it before I repeat it.

As to Iran, I agree this is the scariest thing going on the planet!


The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

BigAl

Muslims will bury us by birth statistacs alone.

We need the Mexicans,]

Muslims are the largest population growth we know of.

Nukes would help the average.

But then again we are pussies when it comes to nukes.


BF

This is what islam is.  This is their plan.  This is how they're going about implementing that plan.  It's all in their Quran.  It's their instruction book. 



"Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. In its fullest form It is a complete total system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called religious rights.

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to the reasonable Muslim demands for their religious rights, some of the other components tend to creep in as well."


THIS IS ISLAM!
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



GJS

Quote from: BigAl on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 14:29:25

But then again we a pussies when it comes to nukes.


Why would you say that? 
The USA is the only country in the world to have used them and they were used on a civilian population. Over a quarter million people died from it. The lucky half went the first day.

Don't get me wrong, Iran's leadership scares the crap out of me. But to call the Country with the single largest Nuke Arsenal in the world "pussies"? Really? Pussies?
I can only pray that the leader of free world deliberate long and hard before making that call. And I pray that it never happens.


I for one want to explore the alternatives before giving way to genocide.
The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

BigAl

Quote from: GJS on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 15:54:47
Quote from: BigAl on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 14:29:25

But then again we a pussies when it comes to nukes.


Why would you say that?  
The USA is the only country in the world to have used them and they were used on a civilian population. Over a quarter million people died from it. The lucky half went the first day.

Don't get me wrong, Iran's leadership scares the crap out of me. But to call the Country with the single largest Nuke Arsenal in the world "pussies"? Really? Pussies?
I can only pray that the leader of free world deliberate long and hard before making that call. And I pray that it never happens.


I for one want to explore the alternatives before giving way to genocide.

We don't have the political will, therefore pussies.

It would be like declaring war on Luxembourg and take a little less time to destory all of Iran. but we won't.


miscott

 Iranium - Full Length Movie

 A timely and powerful documentary presenting the danger posed to the free world by a nuclear Iran. The film exposes the radical Islamic ideology guiding Iran's leaders, and the destruction it causes.

  Iranium - Full Length Movie



T.P.

They don't need a bomb to kill us, just a way to spread all of that radioactive stuff on the ground. we are at a big disadvantage if we only think about air delivery, a west coast dispersal would have our weather system spread it all over the US. same way with Israel, they wont send it by air, they are going to drive it there.    T.P.
"Well you can call me T, or you can call me P, or you can call me T.P. but you doesn't hasta call me Toilet Paper"

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: Regis on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 10:03:48
oh didnt know this was  Bible Study , I'm gone .

LOL..."Bible study?"  If the mere mention of anything relating to God or his word is now a Bible study and one must run away..........all I can say is "bye bye"....

The fact of the matter is, the Bible has been trashed by many as being outdated and archaic.  However, now more than ever in recent memory are the words of God so relevant and important, but you choose for yourself.

BF

miscott......

Thank you for posting those.  Those videos reinforce my post above.  

People are burying their heads in the sand at the prospect of what Iran is really up to.  It might be that it's so far out there and too scarey to even think about that people just can't believe that someone would actually want to bring about what Iran is planning.  

This country needs to wake the hell up.  Our government needs to wake the hell up.  

It seems that the only people that are paying attention is Israel......and Obama just blew them off.

Unfortunately for us, we have a muslim sympathizer as president and a buffoon as vp.   >:(
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



musclehead

Quote from: GJS on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 15:54:47
Quote from: BigAl on Thu 11, Oct 2012, 14:29:25

But then again we a pussies when it comes to nukes.


Why would you say that? 
The USA is the only country in the world to have used them and they were used on a civilian population. Over a quarter million people died from it. The lucky half went the first day.

Don't get me wrong, Iran's leadership scares the crap out of me. But to call the Country with the single largest Nuke Arsenal in the world "pussies"? Really? Pussies?
I can only pray that the leader of free world deliberate long and hard before making that call. And I pray that it never happens.


I for one want to explore the alternatives before giving way to genocide.

we were a different country back then, you should know this. we did use nukes in a war, even japanese historians say it saved lives. we would have had to invade japan to stop the war.
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss