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Started by Big Tom 10628, Tue 23, Oct 2012, 21:30:58

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Big Tom 10628

Is HDL kidding me, $140.47 for the Six plug wires? It's a good thing they last for 13 years...
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2006 Gold Wing

Chrisj CMA

Quote from: Big Tom 10628 on Tue 23, Oct 2012, 21:30:58
Is HDL kidding me, $140.47 for the Six plug wires? It's a good thing they last for 13 years...

Im not surprised at that price.  But you better make sure what you are buying is a complete assembly.  The Honda fishe seems to have the parts all broke up, so the wires may just be wire.  It looks like the boots "caps" are listed seperately.

Big Tom 10628

Yer right. The fiche says "Cap 1-6 ignition" but the picture shows the entire piece, Two caps and a wire. I guess that it will require a phone call or a visit to the stealer.
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2006 Gold Wing

BonS

If your caps are okay then $15 at the auto parts store will get you all the 7mm wire you need. There's a how to somewhere on the board.

Ricky-D

When changing out spark plug wires, a good thing to do is use a volt/ohm meter to note the resistance in the stock wires.

When considering new wires, the ohm rating of the new wires should necessarily match the rating of the stock wires.

The reason to do this match is that the electronic ignition is a sensitive instrument and could possibly be compromised if wrongly rated wires are introduced in the system.

I'm not saying this is guaranteed to happen, but it is a real possibility and should not be ignored out of hand.

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2000_Valkyrie_Interstate

John Schmidt

Quote from: BonS on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 09:59:08
If your caps are okay then $15 at the auto parts store will get you all the 7mm wire you need. There's a how to somewhere on the board.
Here ya go, compliments of yours truly. Did this a few years ago and have had no problems. The link is found in Shop Talk, the job is rather easy just don't be in a hurry. I used Accel yellow wires, 7mm, p/n 3008 universal with straight boots.

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/ShopTalk/plugwires.pdf

Big Tom 10628

Thanks,  that looks like even I can do it......lol
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2006 Gold Wing

G-Man

Quote from: John Schmidt on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 10:40:05
Quote from: BonS on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 09:59:08
If your caps are okay then $15 at the auto parts store will get you all the 7mm wire you need. There's a how to somewhere on the board.
Here ya go, compliments of yours truly. Did this a few years ago and have had no problems. The link is found in Shop Talk, the job is rather easy just don't be in a hurry. I used Accel yellow wires, 7mm, p/n 3008 universal with straight boots.

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/ShopTalk/plugwires.pdf

Wow, man....Thanks!  This is something I might try.  Dealer near me wants $156 for the set of spark plug wires.

art

Accel wires.I've had them for four years :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:

BonS

Our bike uses 7mm copper wires - not resistor wires. Buy accordingly and you won't and can't have any issues with regard to the wires.

Blackduck

2 ways to go, retain the resistors in the plug caps and use plain wire or delete the resistors and use resistance wire.
Have been running resistance wire for years with Standard, IS and Dyna modules no problems.
The question is why are you changeing plug leads? Being plain wire they very seldom give any trouble.
2001 Standard, 78 Goldwing, VRCC 21411

Big Tom 10628

Quote from: Blackduck on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 20:01:31
2 ways to go, retain the resistors in the plug caps and use plain wire or delete the resistors and use resistance wire.
Have been running resistance wire for years with Standard, IS and Dyna modules no problems.
The question is why are you changeing plug leads? Being plain wire they very seldom give any trouble.


The answer is, because after 13 years I am hearing an ignition tick from my CB. Seldom does not mean never.
1999 Valkyrie Interstate
2006 Gold Wing

Blackduck

Sounds like a good place to start checking, do you have any other Valk owners nearby to try swapping leads. At those prices I would want to be certain of the cause before spending that.
Thought the bulk replacement wire is not that expensive.
On a side note does it have the correct sparkplugs?
Cheers Steve
2001 Standard, 78 Goldwing, VRCC 21411

98valk

Quote from: Big Tom 10628 on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 20:42:37
Quote from: Blackduck on Wed 24, Oct 2012, 20:01:31
2 ways to go, retain the resistors in the plug caps and use plain wire or delete the resistors and use resistance wire.
Have been running resistance wire for years with Standard, IS and Dyna modules no problems.
The question is why are you changeing plug leads? Being plain wire they very seldom give any trouble.


The answer is, because after 13 years I am hearing an ignition tick from my CB. Seldom does not mean never.

could be just the resistor in the plug cap. they can be removed and replaced. there have been some posts although rare of a resistor going bad.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

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Tropic traveler

Heed whatever John Schmidt says about the plug wires.
One of the sharpest looking & running Valkyries on earth is owned by John!  ;)

That's him on the right with Trick Rick, another good Valkyrie wrench!

'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
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John Schmidt

Quote from: Tropic traveler on Fri 26, Oct 2012, 20:24:57
Heed whatever John Schmidt says about the plug wires.
One of the sharpest looking & running Valkyries on earth is owned by John!  ;)

That's him on the right with Trick Rick, another good Valkyrie wrench!

Good grief Eddie, where did you dig up that picture? Isn't that the buffet there at the Sunshin Mall, I remember the shot being taken just don't recall the year...Bike Week this year or last maybe? I'm at least 30 lbs. heavier in that pic compared to now, and Rick is still just as ugly.  :2funny: :2funny:

Rick old friend, sure wish you lived a couple hunert miles closer. Rita asked about you after this past weekend lunch ride. I told her you were still just as harmless as ever. She just gave me a funny look!  :cooldude:

Ricky-D

Resistor plug caps and resistor plugs, and plug wires with engineered resistance work in unison with each other and I am not positive one can replace the other and negate the need for some individual part.

The whole thing is wrapped up in EMI, GPI, RFI, and a host of other electrical properties which are all interrelated and have influence over all the electrical systems in our Valkyries.

Unless you a thoroughly versed in this area of expertise (I am not) there are consequences connected with making modifications than can affect the different operations of the electrical systems on the bike.

That's why I suggest to stay within the boundaries already defined by the stock components.

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2000_Valkyrie_Interstate

John Schmidt

Ricky is right on his approach, that's why I used stranded wire when I made the change since the OEM is stranded. And, it's why I proceeded to take the time and go through the trouble of using the same resistors and plug caps. It involved unsoldering the old wires and resoldering the new ones in place.  As a result, I've had zero problems with my setup.  :cooldude: