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For all y'all that said they wouldn't. Here's the thin edge of the wedge

Started by .., Wed 09, Jan 2013, 18:31:08

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Being sometimes childish. I TOLD YOU SO :o

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/01/09/usa-guns-biden-obama-idINDEE9080FK20130109

Come on the Lib/Dem/Progs on the forum defend the action Biden proposes.

Add this to the crap from California, Iowa, New York and other states and you can see which way the voters of this country are headed.

Please remember the idiots just voted the current Federal Govt back into power.

I can only suppose that a lot of the voters for this Govt are also ones possesing illegal firearms and will not be handing any firearms in whilst the rest of us..........................................................

Once the legal owners comply with any Govt decrees it will leave the criminals a country of soft targets.

Or will it?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

To forum members who think this shouldn't be discussed on this forum I hope the sand you have your head buried in doesn't choke you.

BF

Of course Obama would/could use the executive order. 

He's been doing end runs around the constitution and congress for the last four years via executive order.......everything from pay raises for his bud Joe and congress (they've worked really hard ya know) to everything else under the sun via executive order. 

Why wouldn't gun control be any different?  Obama is the anointed one ya know and can do whatever the hell he wants.  He's been doing it for the last four years.   >:(
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Jabba

The country won't stand for it.  That's turning the heat up on the frog too fast.

Jabba

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Rams

Quote from: Jabba on Wed 09, Jan 2013, 19:25:00
The country won't stand for it.  That's turning the heat up on the frog too fast.

Jabba

Jabba,
As much as I'd like to believe that, there is evidence to the contrary.  I hope you're correct but, I'm not confident in that.  Assuming Mr. Obama does go with an Executive Order, the only way I can think of to thwart that is for that E.O. to be challenged and go before SCOTUS.  Knowing it takes a very long time for cases to work their way through the system, most likely Mr. Obama will have the court stacked in his favor by  the time such a case would get there.  

Now, assuming Obama's Court agrees with him and says he can go around Congress which I presume an Obama appointed court would, we might as well start calling him King Obama cause we won't be needing Congress for anything from then on.  Hope I'm wrong but, that seems to be the way we're headed.

Edited:  This coorelation just occurred to me, Mr. Obama seems to be follow Putin's script.   I know that's a loose correlation but, think about it.
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Quote from: blackrams on Wed 09, Jan 2013, 19:50:59
Quote from: Jabba on Wed 09, Jan 2013, 19:25:00
The country won't stand for it.  That's turning the heat up on the frog too fast.

Jabba

Jabba,
As much as I'd like to believe that, there is evidence to the contrary.  I hope you're correct but, I'm not confident in that.  Assuming Mr. Obama does go with an Executive Order, the only way I can think of to thwart that is for that E.O. to be challenged and go before SCOTUS.  Knowing it takes a very long time for cases to work their way through the system, most likely Mr. Obama will have the court stacked in his favor by  the time such a case would get there. 

Now, assuming Obama's Court agree with him and says he can go around Congress which I presume an Obama appointed court would, we might as well start calling him King Obama cause we won't be needing Congress for anything from then on.  Hope I'm wrong but, that seems to be the way we're headed.

Hate to say it, but this could be the end of the USA.

It was obvious he would stop at nothing to disarm US citizens after the Fast and Furious thing. It bothered them not at all that LEO's and citizens alike died to further his anti-gun propaganda. The only thing that seemed to bother them was that they got caught.

Who knows how many things they have going that they haven't been caught at yet?
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MP

I have asked here before, but no answer.

We heard from a number of the progressives on here before the election that the Obummer would NOT do anything to take away our guns.  We would state he wanted to, and our progressives would say we were nuts, that the Pres would not do anything, and we were paranoid.

DEFEND YOURSELF!  WHY ARE YOU QUIET NOW?  YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG!

MP

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FryeVRCCDS0067

Quote from: MP on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 07:46:32
I have asked here before, but no answer.

We heard from a number of the progressives on here before the election that the Obummer would NOT do anything to take away our guns.  We would state he wanted to, and our progressives would say we were nuts, that the Pres would not do anything, and we were paranoid.

DEFEND YOURSELF!  WHY ARE YOU QUIET NOW?  YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG!

MP

Absolutely. I think we are owed an apology, a sorry you were right, I believed the lies and realize now that I was wrong. Maybe even a "my mistake has damaged our country and our freedom" would be in order.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.''
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f6john

Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 15:21:08
Quote from: MP on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 07:46:32
I have asked here before, but no answer.

We heard from a number of the progressives on here before the election that the Obummer would NOT do anything to take away our guns.  We would state he wanted to, and our progressives would say we were nuts, that the Pres would not do anything, and we were paranoid.

DEFEND YOURSELF!  WHY ARE YOU QUIET NOW?  YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG!

MP


    That's something we'll never see. If you voted for Obama you are either feeding from the trough or benefiting from those that do. And just like slopping the hogs, they will stand right there and eat till they are herded to the loading chute going to slaughter. And as there last bit of liberty slips away they will wonder, how the hell did this happen?

Absolutely. I think we are owed an apology, a sorry you were right, I believed the lies and realize now that I was wrong. Maybe even a "my mistake has damaged our country and our freedom" would be in order.

Fudd

At what point is the 'line in the sand' crossed, changing our country's status from being a democracy to now being a full blown dictatorship?

I would think, that signing an executive order that negates an Constitutional Ammendment should qualify.


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FryeVRCCDS0067

And, think about this. He's not even officially started his 2'nd term yet. How many contrived emergencies will they come up with the first year requiring us to surrender freedom? How many are in the works for next year? And the year after? Will the USA even be recognizable after 4 years?
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CajunRider

Quote from: Fudd on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 15:40:26
At what point is the 'line in the sand' crossed, changing our country's status from being a democracy to now being a full blown dictatorship?

You forgot about the years of being Socialists...
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JimC

Well they are off to a typical start,
I just received an email from the NRA, here is a portion of it


QuoteWe were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be "prejudged," this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works - and what does not.


Below is a link to an EXCELLENT web site that has a great deal of information about myths and lies the liberals are using to try and get their way. Unfortunately, the public is starting to buy into some of it because they have heard it so often.  We need to read through it (long read) and educate ourselves in an attempt to expose some of their propaganda.

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/6.1/gun_facts_6_1_screen.pdf

Jim
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MarkT

Take heart in this - anything Herr Obama does with executive orders van be undone by his successor also with executive orders.  Any lasting change requires a congressional approval and that's not going to happen.  Meanwhile, support the NRA.  My concern is if the dickwad appoints any more liberals to SCOTUS - that can have lasting effect.  Copycat events are ramping up - the more the sickos get news coverage, the more sickos that attracts to repeat the carnage.  You can be pretty sure, the hypocrites in Hollywood won't own any of this, or stop pushing it on the kids via movies and video games.  It's all the Republicans and evil gun lobby's fault.

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FryeVRCCDS0067

Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 15:21:08
Quote from: MP on Thu 10, Jan 2013, 07:46:32
I have asked here before, but no answer.

We heard from a number of the progressives on here before the election that the Obummer would NOT do anything to take away our guns.  We would state he wanted to, and our progressives would say we were nuts, that the Pres would not do anything, and we were paranoid.

DEFEND YOURSELF!  WHY ARE YOU QUIET NOW?  YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG!

MP

Absolutely. I think we are owed an apology, a sorry you were right, I believed the lies and realize now that I was wrong. Maybe even a "my mistake has damaged our country and our freedom" would be in order.

Still waiting!
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.''
-- Barry Goldwater, Acceptance Speech at the Republican Convention; 1964


musclehead

executive orders are NOT the law of the land, the constituition is. when obama took office there is no telling how many executive orders of bush's he rescinded.

oh yeah he's in for another four years.....

I think we're screwed............ :-X
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Jabba

It's time to be VERY vocal folks.  Not time to keep your head down.  Write your congress, write your senators, write your governor, write the newspapers, write the cursed president. 

But it's time to INVEST in your future.  Don't wait for someone ELSE to protect your rights.  And help others protect THEIR rights... even if you really don't care for THEIR rights. 

Jabba

98valk

obummer and his crew in both parties are all pawns of the UN and one world order, actually this goes back decades over many presidents watches, some helped it along. it is and has been the un agenda for yrs to take guns away from all citizens of all countries. Our constitution stands on thier way. they will have more mass shootings to get around it.

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FryeVRCCDS0067

Quote from: Jabba on Sat 12, Jan 2013, 20:06:36
It's time to be VERY vocal folks.  Not time to keep your head down.  Write your congress, write your senators, write your governor, write the newspapers, write the cursed president. 

But it's time to INVEST in your future.  Don't wait for someone ELSE to protect your rights.  And help others protect THEIR rights... even if you really don't care for THEIR rights. 

Jabba

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"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.''
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