Hi-Point Firearms

[cookiedough]

I know I brought buying up a handgun previously with good postings, but has anyone bought this Hi-Point Firearms in either 9mm, .40, or .45 caliber?  All are price pointed at 199 and available at Cabelas.  I called local Cabela's up and they say they work and reliable, but the grip and heaviness/awkward feel is not good at all.  Price can't be beat though.  Really leaning though toward a .22 caliber #1 choice being S&W 22a or #2 being Ruger SR22.  I just want the most accurate, reliable, trouble free plinking gun concealed carry not needed.  Both Gander Mountain and Cabela's and another local gun shop stated hard to beat the S&W 22a for pricing, ease of disassembly, reliability, and lifetime no hastle warranty both Ruger and S&W .22 being around 300 bucks.  Ammo is cheaper as well .22 vs. 9mm

[Patrick]

For .22 plinking in semi-auto, I'm a big fan of the Ruger Mark 3.  Another good option in my mind is a good Colt woodsman.

[Jess from VA]

I have no personal knowledge of HiPoints, other than like you, I have read they work surprisingly well, but are clunky. Don't think I'd trust my life to one, but for plinking/targets, why not?

All I can say about .22s is they are marvelous for target practice and can be very accurate, so I would not get less than a 5" bbl auto.  Maybe a 4" bbl revolver; with an auto, the cartridge sits in the chamber/bbl, so roughly equivalent to a 5" bbl auto.  Ruger makes great funtioning .22s, but I have no need for a tiny gun with a short bbl and fixed sights in .22.  I will not carry a .22, so I want a target gun.  I find the better you are with anything, the more fun you have, and the more you enjoy and use it.  So get a target style, adjustable sight .22 pistol.  I would not rule out used either.  .22s get dirty, and need cleaned, correctly, so you have to watch out for used on this issue.

I was going to look in your State, but you don't say in your profile or avatar.

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/search?location=usa&category=handguns&posttype=1&search=.22+auto&tag=22-long-rifle&tag=pistol

PS a good used Colt Woodsman will be expensive.

[solo1]

Last year I purchased a Smith 22A-1 and installed a red dot sight on it.  It functioned perfectly from the get go.  It is also easy to take apart and clean.  In my experience the Ruger Mark series are also very reliable but are much harder to take apart to clean.

Over the years I've had two Colt Woodsman, a High Standard Trophy target pistol, a Smith 41, and a Mark II.  The Colt woodsman is a bear to clean, too many parts but a real jewell.

I bought the Smith 22A-1 to save wear and tear on my Browning Medalist.  It works fine for me with a small caveat.  It uses a plastic buffer piece (extra spares come with it) which is easily replaceable but so far, I've not replaced it.  

I know nothing about the Hi Points except they are 'clunky'.  

[FLAVALK]

I've seen the Hi Point and held it. I agree, it's heavy and clunky but its supposed to be a pretty decent gun for what I've heard and read.

A .22 I own and can recommend highly is the Walther P22. The thing is accurate as can be and well made. I bought mine when they first came out and got it on sale for about $250-$275 best I recall. It is sweet! Did I mention its accurate!!!! I've heard some were made in Korea, by mine was made in Germany. The one in the video is slightly different than mine and it appears a bit "cheaper" looking. Perhaps this is one made in Korea?

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A0S00MvjKhxRrD8AoKj7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvZWY3Z2dlBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjEyOQ--?p=walther+p22&vid=d0412e6290dbdd83a4e10af56b510b4b&l=7%3A55&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4618602578772103%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DocvseFZtYBI&tit=Walther+P22+Lethal+Defensive+Weapon&c=7&sigr=11a0cf9pt&&tt=b

[Valkorado]

A buddy of mine has the hi-point 40 and he reality likes it.  It is big and ugly, but accurate and reliable.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I've got a Ruger "Standard" which is the predecessor of the mark series and the Ruger 22/45's. It was the most accurate .22 pistol I've shot until I bought a S & W 22A. The 22A has a good trigger (not a great trigger and not an easy trigger for trigger jobs either), takes down easy and is a great shooting gun. It's still entirely possible to miss a running squirrel with one 7 times though and they are loud enough that your hunting buds will still be kidding you about it months later.  They are very good guns though, my only complaint about mine is the safety is a little hard to engage. The Walther 22's are also great guns and much lighter weight. If money wasn't an object the polymer framed Ruger 22/45 would be my first choice.

I've handled the Highpoint carbines but haven't shot one. They feel a little heavy and clunky but were rated a best buy by Gun Tests magazine if I remember correctly. As far as I know no one but Highpoint makes magazines for them but I think some have been converted to use more popular magazines available in higher capacities. I thought about buying one several times, just haven't done it.

[Gavin_Sons]

A hi point is about as useful as a boat anchor. We sold lots of them at the store and always had problems. It is one of those things you get wat you pay for.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

KelTec also makes a 9mm carbine. Haven't shot one of those either. Have been carrying a KelTec 380 for several years now. It had to be sent back to the factory to cure a jamming problem after I bought it new. There was no charge since it was under warranty and it's never jammed since. I probably have a 1000 rounds through it now.

[Psychotic Bovine]

FWIW here is a review on the hi point 9mm.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/05/benjamin-t-shotzberger/gun-review-hi-point-c9-9mm-pistol/

Would I buy one?  nope.  If this review is typical (which I am not saying it is or isn't), I would feel more protected with a sharp stick.

[PAVALKER]

I know I brought buying up a handgun previously with good postings, but has anyone bought this Hi-Point Firearms in either 9mm, .40, or .45 caliber?  All are price pointed at 199 and available at Cabelas.  I called local Cabela's up and they say they work and reliable, but the grip and heaviness/awkward feel is not good at all.  Price can't be beat though.  Really leaning though toward a .22 caliber #1 choice being S&W 22a or #2 being Ruger SR22.  I just want the most accurate, reliable, trouble free plinking gun concealed carry not needed.  Both Gander Mountain and Cabela's and another local gun shop stated hard to beat the S&W 22a for pricing, ease of disassembly, reliability, and lifetime no hastle warranty both Ruger and S&W .22 being around 300 bucks.  Ammo is cheaper as well .22 vs. 9mm

Really leaning towards a .22 pistol?   If you are concerned about magazines being an issue (capacity etc), then look at a .22 Revolver.  Taurus makes some nice, reliable revolvers.  And small enough to CCW.  An SR22 or Walther P22 is nice and small for carry as well (10rd magazines).  If target shooting is your primary or sole intended use for a .22  I recommend a Ruger MKIII.... but it is not suitable for CCW.    Taurus has a lifetime warranty as well, and if you buy a new one.... I believe you are eligible for a year free NRA membership (or an additional 1yr to an existing membership).

[Misfit]

Ruger mark II or III. 

[dreamchaser]

Browning Buckmark, but good luck getting one now.  It is the sweetest plinking .22 I have ever shot and there's been a lot of them.  Great balance an you can dress it up any way you want.  Very versitile, and depedable.  Have fun.....

[Serk]

Go to Pawn shops and independent gun shops and keep your eyes out for a good condition used Ruger MKII preferably the MKII Target with the bull barrel and adjustable sites.

The price will be about what you'd pay for a newer .22 plinker, but you'll be getting what is (IMHO) a far better built gun for the money. I've put many many many thousands of rounds through my MKII Target and it's never hiccuped and is dead on accurate.

[Denny47]

You can't go wrong with the Ruger Mk. lll. I have a Mk. l bought around 1981 w/ target sights and Bull barrel. Very accurate and dependable. Revolvers are much louder when fired than the semi autos. Would not hesitate to buy another in the Mk. lll

[9Ball]

Mark III Hunter or a used Mark II.  Not a fan of the 22/45 models, but to each his own.  Once you get the knack for the disassembly technique, then it becomes second nature and very easy.

The advice that you get what you pay for definitely applies here.  If you want a serious target pistol, then you will typically have to spend a bit more than the high point goes for.  A few of my friends have either Sig Trailside or Buckmark pistols that also are true target-quality pieces.

You can also build a serious target pistol from volquartsen parts.  The advantage of the Ruger Mark II or Mark III is that there are a lot of upgrade accessories made for these pistols which will allow you to improve the gun a little at a time as money becomes available.  You most likely won't be able to do this with the high point other than maybe getting an action job by the gunsmith.

And good luck finding .22 ammo in any quantity.  Seems to have all been hoarded.

[PAVALKER]

Mark III Hunter or a used Mark II.  Not a fan of the 22/45 models, but to each his own.

And good luck finding .22 ammo in any quantity.  Seems to have all been hoarded.

Yea.... .22 ammo on Gun Broker is at a premium.  Of course all ammo is limited and at a premium.  Walmart occasionally gets some in, reasonably priced, but it goes very quickly.

[Skinhead]

For .22 plinking in semi-auto, I'm a big fan of the Ruger Mark 3.  

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[cookiedough]

Yesterday I called 2 local gunshops as well as 2 Cabelas and 2 Gander Mountains and yes,  the 2 biggest ammo's NONE having are .22's and 9mm, probably 2 of the most common ammo's, at least around me.  I still have some Remington .22's sitting on the shelf that are guessing 20 years old but still should work fine.  I'm going to be going to Cabela's this weekend to check pricing and more importantly fit and finish.  Will check out the Walther P22 and Ruger III as well, if they got them in stock that is. 

A local gunsmith/gunshop has my name and number in case he gets lucky to get any handguns in and told him to save me one if he gets in anytime soon (doesn't seem like anyone will) say a S&W 22a.  He said even new if he can ever get one anytime soon (he doubts it though) he would be willing to offer the price around 250 bucks seems reasonable since most are over 320 bucks.

Keep your guns now for if the Obumanator gets his way,  a lot of guns will be banished.  If not, then the price of any used guns are for sure to keep going up and up and up.  Sucks though if you by a gun that ammo is not readily available to purchase.

[PAVALKER]

Yesterday I called 2 local gunshops as well as 2 Cabelas and 2 Gander Mountains and yes,  the 2 biggest ammo's NONE having are .22's and 9mm, probably 2 of the most common ammo's, at least around me.  I still have some Remington .22's sitting on the shelf that are guessing 20 years old but still should work fine.  I'm going to be going to Cabela's this weekend to check pricing and more importantly fit and finish.  Will check out the Walther P22 and Ruger III as well, if they got them in stock that is. 

A local gunsmith/gunshop has my name and number in case he gets lucky to get any handguns in and told him to save me one if he gets in anytime soon (doesn't seem like anyone will) say a S&W 22a.  He said even new if he can ever get one anytime soon (he doubts it though) he would be willing to offer the price around 250 bucks seems reasonable since most are over 320 bucks.

Keep your guns now for if the Obumanator gets his way,  a lot of guns will be banished.  If not, then the price of any used guns are for sure to keep going up and up and up.  Sucks though if you by a gun that ammo is not readily available to purchase.

That's why they say it's better to have multiple calibers, and I think 1k rounds of each caliber or was it 1k rounds for each gun....      In any event, if you stock up on ammo when you can afford it or find it, you will make sure you have food to feed your toys and be saving yourself some money in the long run..... as prices will only continue to rise.  A gun without bullets is like a Valkyrie without gas.....

[Phil57]

I have a 22/45 Ruger and it is a great 22 for me. Very accurate and cheap to shoot all day. It feel right for me and that is the most important advice that I have had on this site and others. Don't buy until you can at least dry fire (if safe to do) a few times. Get a feel for the weight. It will be different for everyone

[SideCar]

Speaking of ammo, if you do go with an auto loader, you'll likely want to use decent ammo to keep it cycling properly. The really inexpensive bulk ammo .22 often creates cycling problems, especially with new guns.  We've tested a number of 22s that people were complaining of FTE issues and with the exception of one that needed cleaning, all functioned perfectly when fed CCI mini mags or other solid performing ammo.  This is another instance of getting what you pay for, at least to an extent. I don't hesitate to use the cheaper bulk ammo like Lightning for plinking with revolvers.

[bigguy]

Speaking of ammo, if you do go with an auto loader, you'll likely want to use decent ammo to keep it cycling properly. The really inexpensive bulk ammo .22 often creates cycling problems, especially with new guns.  We've tested a number of 22s that people were complaining of FTE issues and with the exception of one that needed cleaning, all functioned perfectly when fed CCI mini mags or other solid performing ammo.  This is another instance of getting what you pay for, at least to an extent. I don't hesitate to use the cheaper bulk ammo like Lightning for plinking with revolvers.

Tula!
For best results, remove each cartridge from box separately and THROW it at the bad guy.

[SideCar]

LOL

[Jess from VA]

Speaking of ammo, if you do go with an auto loader, you'll likely want to use decent ammo to keep it cycling properly. The really inexpensive bulk ammo .22 often creates cycling problems, especially with new guns.  We've tested a number of 22s that people were complaining of FTE issues and with the exception of one that needed cleaning, all functioned perfectly when fed CCI mini mags or other solid performing ammo.  This is another instance of getting what you pay for, at least to an extent. I don't hesitate to use the cheaper bulk ammo like Lightning for plinking with revolvers.

Good advice.  CCI for me.

[cookiedough]

went to cabela's today the handgun area was very crowded with 10 guys hovering over all the pistols with 3 salesman.  Finally got to look over the ruger sr22, mark III, and the Hi-Point lineup in 9mm and .45 caliber.  They were out of the S&W 22A model I called up 2 days ago stating they had one in stock I really was interested in as well.  I liked both Rugers but liked the SR22 better fit my hand better and nicer fit, at least for me.  They didn't even have a Walther P22 someone else suggested.

One thing I learned is the 9mm and especially the .45 caliber in the Hi-Point is very basic and extremely bulky and heavy with no frills definitely has no fine details and is very boxy as compared to all other handguns.  But, for 199 bucks for all 3 models (9mm, .40 and.45) being the cheapest and most reviews stating very reliable, with lifetime warranty from mfg., best bang for your buck assuming they work properly that is.  It is hard to explain, but the hi-point lineups are unbelievable heavy and bulky but the good thing about that which I believe the reviews stated is that the recoil of their entire lineup is almost non-existent especially in the .45 caliber.

One thing I found in used handguns was the pricing was way overinflated.  I even saw a used Mark III Ruger brand for 369 when the new identical Ruger Mark III in the case next to it was only 349, 20 bucks cheaper for new how can that be??????  Not many .22 calibers to look at really with most handguns 500 bucks on over - OUCH!

[ibsrp]

I just purchased one of these off the Gun Broker site. Paid $240 for it including shipping. I haven't received it yet but it really has some good reviews.

http://www.sccy.com/cpx2tt.html