Camshaft part numbers

[Chillerman]

Can anyone tell me the part numbers for non California camshafts? HDL has two part #'s for both left and right, 670's and 770's.  http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2552023&category=Motorcycles&make=Honda&year=1998&fveh=132665

I know the eventual questions will be why do I want to know? I have a California bike and am playing around with the idea of replacing the cams with the non-Cali version. The carbs have already been changed.

Thanks, Sean

[olddog1946]

I'm not sure which is which but wonder if it would even be cost effective to do a change. I'd bet you'd be spending a ton of hard earned money for very little if any improvement in performance, or mileage.

[dago mooserider]

I have also been toying with that idea....at some point my bike is gonna be in the hands of attic rat for some performance work. So i'm gonna leave it to him to decide if it's worth it to ditch the cali cams.

[Chillerman]

For anyone interested, I just called HDL and they were very helpful. The 670 part numbers are the 49 state camshafts and the 770 numbers are the California camshafts. I have read that the Cali bikes were leaned out and had milder cams thus producing up to 10hp less than the 49 state bikes. I have never had my bike dynoed so I cannot verify this info.

[Chillerman]

Having pulled the carbs I know I have 35's and 100's.

[Blackduck]

There are different carb numbers listed for both Cal and 49 bikes and before and after 1997.
The mains are listed as 100 and 35 for the slows on all carbs.
There was a needle change in 1997, before J6KG and J6KJ after.
Have the camshaft timing specc's stashed somewhere if anyone wants them

There are different carb numbers for overseas bikes along with diferent jetting and needles
Cheers Steve

[sandy]

My 98 Tourer has been dynoed. It's got 87.8 HP and 88.5  FT/LB of torque. OH, It's a CA bike with I/S ICM and carb springs and Dyna jet needle set to the 2nd notch down from top.

[bentwrench]

I know results change from one dyno to the next,but my 98 tourer(fed) did 98 hp and 100 ft.lbs.thats w/ a 4 deg.wheel,1 washer under stock needles,and piggies cut and 1st baffle opened.This bike pulls harder than my 2000 std even with the extra wieght.

[Chillerman]

I'm not sure which is which but wonder if it would even be cost effective to do a change. I'd bet you'd be spending a ton of hard earned money for very little if any improvement in performance, or mileage.

For $450 if I can gain 10 hp it is worth it to me