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The POTUS has made a wrong move, finally

Started by solo1, Tue 14, May 2013, 13:26:06

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solo1

I watched the White House press conference and also Eric holder press conference today.  Lies, Lies, and more lies.  "We don't know nuttin'".

Maybe the honeymoon is over.  The administration violated the Rights of the First Amendment, without doubt.  The AP is all over their arse.

The mass media doesn't care about the Second Amendment but the First is THEIR THING.   

They are mad.

Maybe there is hope.

czuch

Not even the first time. Just the first time it affected them.
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bigguy

#3
I couldn't believe how Chuck Todd was tearing Jay Carney a new one over the flip from Senator Obama's stance:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/179/revise-the-patriot-act-to-increase-oversight-on-go/
QuoteAs a candidate for president, then-Sen. Barack Obama railed against parts of USA Patriot Act that gave the Bush administration sweeping powers to intercept phone and e-mail communications in the name of fighting terrorism with little judicial or congressional oversight, and Obama pledged to institute "robust" checks and balances if elected.
To President Obama's position:
QuoteNow that he's in charge of keeping America safe, President Obama sounds a bit less strident. His attorney general, Eric Holder, has asked Congress to renew three controversial provisons of the Patriot Act that expire in 2010

I'm still waiting on an apology from those who said that the President would be much morte upset by attacks on the First Amendment similar to those Democrats have launched against the Second Amendment.

:o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Wait a minute! That's not a good thing is it? He doesn't seem to give a crap about either of them.

Jay Carney being grilled by Chuck Todd. Never thought I'd see the day.
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FLAVALK

The lies told by him and his administration is unprecedented  >:(


...and the scandals...

Benghazi-Gate
IRS harrassment of conservative groups
Fast and Furious
AP-Gate...just to name a few

:tickedoff:
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Black Dog

Love him or hate him, Jon Stewart usually rips the 'right'...  Here is a segment where he rips in to the potus and his crew...

http://media.mtvnservices.com/embed/mgid:cms:video:thedailyshow.com:426238

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G-Man

Quote from: Black Dog on Tue 14, May 2013, 14:26:46
Love him or hate him, Jon Stewart usually rips the 'right'...  Here is a segment where he rips in to the potus and his crew...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day......  just sayin'   :D

..

Yep. There were representatives from the Press squealing on the local NPR station this afternoon.


cookiedough

I even heard Donald Rumsfeld under Bush speak last night on some talk show and he believes the President and current adm. is covering up and not telling all their is to be told.  So, basically lying thru the keester in lamens terms. 

Patrick

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.

He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'

St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks.
Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock.

Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.'

'Oh,' said the man, 'whose clock is that?'

'That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.'

'Incredible,' said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'

St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.'

'Where's President Obama's clock?' asked the man.
Obama's clock is in Jesus' office.
He's using it as a ceiling fan.


Varmintmist

Doesnt matter.

The Pres and Co. will keep saying "I didn't know." and "Nobody told me." and the lame stream media will just go away in 3 weeks.

The clown has 4 people THAT ARE HIS RESPONSIBILITY die without his administration doing anything and he says they are a bump in the road.
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FryeVRCCDS0067

Quote from: Varmintmist on Tue 14, May 2013, 19:39:44
Doesnt matter.

The Pres and Co. will keep saying "I didn't know." and "Nobody told me." and the lame stream media will just go away in 3 weeks.


I hope you're wrong......... But, you're probably right.  :'(

I sure disliked pres Clinton but I gotta say he caught more flak over Monica's dress than Obama has caught over killing Mexicans to boost his anti-gun propaganda or letting our ambassador die to help his re-election campaign. WTH?
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musclehead

Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Tue 14, May 2013, 22:59:59
Quote from: Varmintmist on Tue 14, May 2013, 19:39:44
Doesnt matter.

The Pres and Co. will keep saying "I didn't know." and "Nobody told me." and the lame stream media will just go away in 3 weeks.


I hope you're wrong......... But, you're probably right.  :'(

I sure disliked pres Clinton but I gotta say he caught more flak over Monica's dress than Obama has caught over killing Mexicans to boost his anti-gun propaganda or letting our ambassador die to help his re-election campaign. WTH?
I liked clinton and voted for him once, however he got in office and immediately began acting like just anthoer politician. he was going to stop government waste, pfft please! whenever I hear that now I know they are lying
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Tx Bohemian

Quote from: Varmintmist on Tue 14, May 2013, 19:39:44
...and the lame stream media will just go away in 3 weeks.

Unfortunately I think you're right.

People have a tendency to forget real easy and quick.

I wonder who will remember Benghazi in 3-1/2 years when hillary is running...

Let's hope the opposition will remind voters.
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Valkorado

I fear that many nowadays are so blinded by his celebrity and addicted to his handouts that if he shat on their heads they would support him.  That is almost as scary as his ideologies.
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Patrick

I fear that many nowadays are so blinded by his celebrity and addicted to his handouts that if he shat on their heads they would support him.  That is almost as scary as his ideologies.
end quote:

Hasn't he ' shat ' on his supporters [and non-supporters] for the past 5 years ?

Valkorado

Quote from: Patrick link=topic=55238.msg530399#msg530399 date=1368627971

Hasn't he ' shat ' on his supporters [and non-supporters
for the past 5 years?

He has.  I meant literally, not figuratively.
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musclehead

the honeymoon will never be over between obama and his sycophantic press lap dogs.

there might be a lovers spat every now and then but they really DO love each other :roll:
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Varmintmist

Quote from: musclehead on Wed 15, May 2013, 10:09:04
the honeymoon will never be over between obama and his sycophantic press lap dogs.

there might be a lovers spat every now and then but they really DO love each other :roll:
A lot of the press and Administration workers are related, some by marriage so as long as they are happy, I guess it is a love affair.
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Fudd

Quote from: Varmintmist on Wed 15, May 2013, 12:14:50
Quote from: musclehead on Wed 15, May 2013, 10:09:04
the honeymoon will never be over between obama and his sycophantic press lap dogs.

there might be a lovers spat every now and then but they really DO love each other :roll:
A lot of the press and Administration workers are related, some by marriage so as long as they are happy, I guess it is a love affair.


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Daddie O

#20
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage over the justice dept. looking at AP phone records now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

..

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:15:02
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.

Democracy haters?

Which democracy? The USA is a Republic.

As to whether on not the Federal Government is lying to its citizens. That depends entirely upon the morals you are willing to live by in your life and how you expect your Federal Government to behave.

If you'd been around; you weren't  so really have no idea what you are talking about re forum members; you would have seen dissatisfaction with Bush's policies.

Patrick

Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Daddy-o, yep, I agree.

Valkorado

Now you are the judge of who is of "import or power"?  All hail the mighty Daddy-O!
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Psychotic Bovine

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:15:02
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage over the justice dept. looking at AP phone records now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.

I am going to be blunt here.  Your unconditional love, admiration and near deifying of "President" Obama makes me sick.  In your mind, he can do no wrong, whatsoever.  You spout how we are enjoying more prosperity than America has ever had, more freedom, more of everything, but you give zero reasons how "Dear Leader" has made this happen.  I have heard of people under this kind of spell for a "leader".  The followers of Jim Jones come to mind.  
I am convinced he could commit murder on live tv and you would continue to support him any way you could.  When I read your posts I am reminded of juvenile posters on youtube that try to say the most outrageous things to get a rise from people; things they don't really believe.  However, I think you do believe this stuff and that frightens me.  Greatly.
"I aim to misbehave."

MAD6Gun

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:15:02
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage over the justice dept. looking at AP phone records now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.

You are the one that does not get it. Bengazi IS A BIG DEAL. FOUR DEAD AMERICANS IS A BIG DEAL. I dont give a crap about the freeking talking points. They tried to cover up the FACT that they LET four Americans DIE. PERIOD. If this had happend on Bush's watch YOU would be calling for his head just like every other liberal. It would be all over the Lame streem media. The liberal did the same thing all During Bush's time in office. But because the messiah King Obama did it they let him get a pass just like every other shady thing he has done.

Oh and get your facts straight on Clinton. He was not Impeached bacause he got a blowjob in the Whitehouse. HE WAS Inpeached because HE LIED ABOUT IT UNDER OATH. He should have at least lost is licence to practice LAW. You see Lying under Oath is frowned apon among lawyer types.

Hillary Clinton for Pres. Give me a break. Really.

fudgie

Quote from: musclehead on Wed 15, May 2013, 05:50:22
I liked clinton and voted for him once, however he got in office and immediately began acting like just anthoer politician. he was going to stop government waste, pfft please! whenever I hear that now I know they are lying

Thats why I dont let it bother me. Another political scandal? Gee, thats unheard of.  :uglystupid2:


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Daddie O

#27
The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

None of these appear to be a big deal in conservative circles, but the 4 in Bengazi is HUGE news right?  How many soldiers and civilians died in the trumped up war in Iraq by the way.  Yeah that's what I thought.
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:54:25
The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

None of these appear to be a big deal in conservative circles, but the 4 in Bengazi is HUGE news right?  How many soldiers and civilians died in the trumped up war in Iraq by the way.  Yeah that's what I thought.

Which of those incidents did the Federal Govt at the time lie about?

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Daddie O are you of the belief that Sadam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction?

Daddie O

Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:40:59
Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:15:02
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage over the justice dept. looking at AP phone records now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.

I am going to be blunt here.  Your unconditional love, admiration and near deifying of "President" Obama makes me sick.  In your mind, he can do no wrong, whatsoever.  You spout how we are enjoying more prosperity than America has ever had, more freedom, more of everything, but you give zero reasons how "Dear Leader" has made this happen.  I have heard of people under this kind of spell for a "leader".  The followers of Jim Jones come to mind.  
I am convinced he could commit murder on live tv and you would continue to support him any way you could.  When I read your posts I am reminded of juvenile posters on youtube that try to say the most outrageous things to get a rise from people; things they don't really believe.  However, I think you do believe this stuff and that frightens me.  Greatly.

I'm sorry you are frightened.  Maybe grab your blankie, crawl under your bed, and suck your thumb until the mean liberal leaves you alone.  I have admiration for President Obama, but unconditional love and deification?  Hardly.  Because I disagree with you I must be juvenile, and following a cult like Jim Jones' right?  You see, you are frustrated and sickened because you cast everything as black and white, and the world doesn't work like that.  You believe one thing and if someone disagrees they must be an idiot right?  If someone sees things the president has done right that must mean they think he can do no wrong and they then worship him like a diety?  Your logic fails and your frustration ensues.
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Daddie O

#31
Quote from: Britman on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:01:56
Daddie O are you of the belief that Sadam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction?

Which of those incidents did the federal government lie about?  Lets see, how about IRAQ off the top of my head. 

Most of the world has weapons of mass destruction, but I don't see you advocating invading them all. The truth is you and I don't know anything about what Saddam had or didn't have, except for what we have been told.  We do now know that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Powell fed congress false intel.  I am of the opinion that Saddam had absolutely no means to do any harm to America, and there had never been an Iraqi terrorist prior to our second invasion of Iraq.  We were fed false info, we attacked a sovereign nation and lost thousands of American lives.
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Skinhead

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:54:25
The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.Who lied about it?

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
[size=200pt]Who lied about it?[/size]

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.
WHO LIED ABOUT IT?

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
WHO LIED ABOUT IT?

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.WHO LIED ABOUT IT?

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.WHO LIED ABOUT IT?

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.WHO LIED ABOU IT?

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

None of these appear to be a big deal in conservative circles, but the 4 in Bengazi is HUGE news right?  How many soldiers and civilians died in the trumped up war in Iraq by the way.  Yeah that's what I thought.

I got tired.  DO you get it yet?  It is all about Lying to us. the people that elected/hate him.  

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Daddie O

Here is the part that you don't get.  You weren't lied to.  Obama did not lie to you.  No matter how big you make your CAPS it won't change the facts.  We can agree it is a tragedy that 4 Americans lost their lives.  It's not the first time, nor will it be the last.  Maybe you can urge your local republican representative to vote yes for more embassy security funding.  Direct your rage at them for denying it.
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Skinhead

The video was responsible?  What was that?  A fairy tale?  From now on he should open with "Once upon a time..." if he doesn't want people to call him out on his lies.  Embassies are supposed to be protected by Marines, why was this one farmed out to towel heads?

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Psychotic Bovine

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:02:11
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:40:59
Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 15:15:02
Here is a newsflash, and it may come as a shocker.  Nobody of import or power really gives a crap about Bengazi and why talking points were changed.  Nobody gives a crap about the IRS looking more closely at tea party applications for tax exempt status.  You sure didn't care when the Bush administration was listening in on your phone calls without a warrant, so your feigned outrage over the justice dept. looking at AP phone records now feels shallow.  You democracy haters just can't get over losing an election, so you dig dig dig trying to find something, anything, that your delusional mind thinks can be "the downfall" of the Obama administration and the start of some impeachment process.  You. Lost. The Election.
 
A president getting a blowjob in the White House got far more interest because heck, it's a blowjob.  Since you couldn't get over the fact you lost that election you tried to impeach an acting president about lying about a blowjob.  Really, that's what you did.  An assistant director of the CIA changing a paragraph that mentions Al Quaeda in some talking points in order to not jeopardize an ongoing FBI investigation?  Can't you hear the collective American people's yawn?

Some of the wiser of the conservatives in this forum have it pegged right.  This will all fade away in a few weeks or less if something more interesting comes up.  In the 24hr news cycle they need something, and nothing but positive economic news doesn't have the ratings that "controversy" or tragedy has.

In the meantime, let's all enjoy the prosperity that comes with the Obama administration, and look forward to it's continuance under President Hillary Clinton.

I am going to be blunt here.  Your unconditional love, admiration and near deifying of "President" Obama makes me sick.  In your mind, he can do no wrong, whatsoever.  You spout how we are enjoying more prosperity than America has ever had, more freedom, more of everything, but you give zero reasons how "Dear Leader" has made this happen.  I have heard of people under this kind of spell for a "leader".  The followers of Jim Jones come to mind.  
I am convinced he could commit murder on live tv and you would continue to support him any way you could.  When I read your posts I am reminded of juvenile posters on youtube that try to say the most outrageous things to get a rise from people; things they don't really believe.  However, I think you do believe this stuff and that frightens me.  Greatly.

I'm sorry you are frightened.  Maybe grab your blankie, crawl under your bed, and suck your thumb until the mean liberal leaves you alone.  I have admiration for President Obama, but unconditional love and deification?  Hardly.  Because I disagree with you I must be juvenile, and following a cult like Jim Jones' right?  You see, you are frustrated and sickened because you cast everything as black and white, and the world doesn't work like that.  You believe one thing and if someone disagrees they must be an idiot right?  If someone sees things the president has done right that must mean they think he can do no wrong and they then worship him like a diety?  Your logic fails and your frustration ensues.

Laughable.  You skimmed my post.  I said "reminded of"...
Typical lib response, get offended but have no idea WHY you are offended.
Your praises for Obama go far beyond mere "admiration".  I think many people on this board see that.
I have quite a few people who I disagree with whom I would call friends.  But I have NEVER seen someone so blinded by their ideology that they cannot see the failings in their party.  You don't see me praising Bush unconditionally, or Reagan for that matter (Reagan is in the top 5 of best American Presidents by nearly every scholarly writing on the matter).  It's highly unlikely that Obama will even crack the top 30. I thought Reagan was awesome, and highly presidential, but he was far from perfect.  You still can't even state WHAT Obama has done that has caused the stock market to climb, the hills to sing, and rainbows and puppies to spill forth from every bodily orifice of mankind.  You basically vomit out the talking points gained from MSNBC, ABC, and CNN and call them fact, without checking if they are true.
And to answer your other comment on Benghazi, certainly there have been attacks and deaths of American embassy staff, but they weren't covered up.  And they darn well weren't allowed to happen by telling security to stand down.  Heck, the story has changed so many times that hardly anyone can keep it straight.  But, I am pretty sure that's exactly how the government wants it.
Someone once said "tell the truth the first time, since lies are harder to keep track of", or something like that.  That's advice this administration should follow.
"I aim to misbehave."

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Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:06:07
Quote from: Britman on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:01:56
Daddie O are you of the belief that Sadam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction?

Which of those incidents did the federal government lie about?  Lets see, how about IRAQ off the top of my head. 

Most of the world has weapons of mass destruction, but I don't see you advocating invading them all. The truth is you and I don't know anything about what Saddam had or didn't have, except for what we have been told.  We do now know that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Powell fed congress false intel.  I am of the opinion that Saddam had absolutely no means to do any harm to America, and there had never been an Iraqi terrorist prior to our second invasion of Iraq.  We were fed false info, we attacked a sovereign nation and lost thousands of American lives.

Did you read about the thousands of Kurds in northern Iraq that Saddam gassed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

http://history1900s.about.com/od/saddamhussein/a/husseincrimes.htm


Selective memory is not your friend on a public forum.

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Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:11:11
Here is the part that you don't get.  You weren't lied to.  Obama did not lie to you.  No matter how big you make your CAPS it won't change the facts.  We can agree it is a tragedy that 4 Americans lost their lives.  It's not the first time, nor will it be the last.  Maybe you can urge your local republican representative to vote yes for more embassy security funding.  Direct your rage at them for denying it.



Obama continued to blame the Koran video for weeks after the organized terrorist attack. Now Obama says it was a terrorist attack. So which was it or doesn't it make a difference to your moral standards?

If you aren't willing to acknowledge that Obama's protestations about the Koran video weren't lies then I can't continue to hope to have any form of reasonable discourse with one so blind.

bigguy

Quote from: Daddie O on Thu 16, May 2013, 16:11:11Maybe you can urge your local republican representative to vote yes for more embassy security funding.  Direct your rage at them for denying it.
Not according to deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security Charlene Lamb. In testimony Wednesday (May 15) before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Lamb, was asked, "Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?"
Lamb responded, "No, sir."
Here there be Dragons.

Master Blaster

Its not the lies that get me, hell I expect politicians to lie.  Its the fact that he let them die without even trying a save.  Dig deeper and it seems like they had to die to cover up what the ambassador was doing in Benghazi a CIA facility on the anniversary of 911, instead of Tripoli where the imbassy is located.  In other words, I think it is much more than talking points.  Another thing I find intresting is as he is having his various agencies attact the public intrests, he makes a major push to take our guns away.  Coincedence, I dont think so.   If we allow it to pass we will soon have a full fledged Dictator.  He has been pushing the power envelope every since he was first elected, and each time he succedes it emboldens him.  If he gets away with the abuses of power to date, it may be too late.  When he got by with fast and furious, he thought he didnt have to answer to anyone for anything.
"Nothing screams bad craftsmanship like wrinkles in your duct tape."

Gun controll is not about guns, its about CONTROLL.