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I installed my new A/C heat pump package unit.... (See video)

Started by BigBF, Mon 27, May 2013, 04:42:24

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Tundra

Wow,  Great Job, how long did it take you? I wish I had your skill and knowledge.
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BigBF

Quote from: Tundra on Mon 27, May 2013, 05:51:08
Wow,  Great Job, how long did it take you? I wish I had your skill and knowledge.

Thanks
About a week mostly work at night and sometime I got stuck need something from home depot so I wait next day then again and again ha ha... It's not like most HVac do that way they just slap and be done with it less than half day... I'm sure there's great chance it has air leak into or out... As you can see ton of dust in there meaning they are not sealed right. I often wondering if I'm wasting my electric bill in summer time. Now with new A/C and sealed, I will find out this summer to see the history.

bscrive

How big is your house that you need a 4 ton a/c unit?  Mine is a 2 ton and I cool 1800sq ft really well.  I hope you did not over size it or you may have problems because short cycling in an a/c unit is not good for it.  Good job though.



If global warming is happening...why is it so cold up here?

musclehead

Quote from: bscrive on Mon 27, May 2013, 14:45:35
How big is your house that you need a 4 ton a/c unit?  Mine is a 2 ton and I cool 1800sq ft really well.  I hope you did not over size it or you may have problems because short cycling in an a/c unit is not good for it.  Good job though.

BigBF might need those extra 2 tons considering his location  :cooldude:
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cookiedough

wow, that thing must weigh a ton, literally.  I sure hope the roof supports it but the frame you built looks well built.  Good job.

Should be good to go for another 20-30 years until you are old and ready for retirement. 

BigBF

Quote from: bscrive on Mon 27, May 2013, 14:45:35
How big is your house that you need a 4 ton a/c unit?  Mine is a 2 ton and I cool 1800sq ft really well.  I hope you did not over size it or you may have problems because short cycling in an a/c unit is not good for it.  Good job though.

Yes little bit over size but I'm in Phx AZ and my friend had 5 ton was way too big for their house and never had problem since 2003. My old one was 3.5 now 4 tons is not too bad. The unit only weight little under 500 lbs and it sit on three truss instead of two truss. As for electric heater I only use it when it's below 30-35 degree so it's off by switch until need to use it in winter time. FYI 4 tons is not the weight I'im not sure why they use "ton" i did find in google 4 tons in btu so mine is 48,000 BTU. Anyway I guess what you have 2 tons with high humidly in Canada , it is good and it get colder than dry.

BigBF

Quote from: cookiedough on Mon 27, May 2013, 16:53:26
wow, that thing must weigh a ton, literally.  I sure hope the roof supports it but the frame you built looks well built.  Good job.

Should be good to go for another 20-30 years until you are old and ready for retirement. 

Thanks.. It sure does look like a ton of weight LoL... It sit on three truss and should be fine even I'm 300 lbs and roof hold me up LoL... Oh yeah many more years... I think I better start my retirement tomorrow  :uglystupid2:

Jess from VA


bscrive

We can get some really hot days here in Ottawa with high humidity.  Although we don't get the sustained heat that you get in Arizona.  We do hit 90 to 105 in the summer but only for a few days at at time.  I was just a little concerned because my cousin is a HVAC guy and when I was thinking of changing my a/c unit a couple of years ago I saw a 3 ton unit on sale and he told to not go too big or you will have just as much problems as too small of a unit.  He did a load calculation and found out that a 2 ton unit was optimal for my house.  He ended up being able to fix mine so I dodged the bullet at the time from having to shell out cash for a new one.



If global warming is happening...why is it so cold up here?

sandy

Bill, is there no end to your talents? I had a new 4 ton put on my 1500 sq ft home a year ago. The bills went down about $40 a month.

BigBF

Quote from: bscrive on Mon 27, May 2013, 20:10:03
We can get some really hot days here in Ottawa with high humidity.  Although we don't get the sustained heat that you get in Arizona.  We do hit 90 to 105 in the summer but only for a few days at at time.  I was just a little concerned because my cousin is a HVAC guy and when I was thinking of changing my a/c unit a couple of years ago I saw a 3 ton unit on sale and he told to not go too big or you will have just as much problems as too small of a unit.  He did a load calculation and found out that a 2 ton unit was optimal for my house.  He ended up being able to fix mine so I dodged the bullet at the time from having to shell out cash for a new one.

Yeah high temp is no problem with high humidity... Out here is very dry and hardly have humidity in summer time unless rain come here then it go away fast. I saw the info on calculation from online and it said I need 3.0 tons. I'm pretty sure it will be fine with 4.0 tons.  :cooldude:

BigBF

Quote from: sandy on Mon 27, May 2013, 20:13:15
Bill, is there no end to your talents? I had a new 4 ton put on my 1500 sq ft home a year ago. The bills went down about $40 a month.

Even thought with no experienced and still be able to figure out and do it. The key is use common sense. Lucky I have all kind of skill that I can do...

Yeah, I figure it should be about $40 to $60 a month to save... What SEER do you have on your unit?

BigBF

Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 27, May 2013, 19:55:53
Nice job Bill.   :cooldude:

Stay off MY roof.  ;D

Thanks

There's no A/C on your roof it's on side of house and inside the closet  :D But good don't ask me to do the roof job ha ha ha... I don't like working on roof shingle :uglystupid2: but if I have to do it on my roof then I will bec I was shocked that my friend just had roof shingle replace and they asked for $12,000 oh my gawd... What a rip off then I found out other companies does that price too jeez. I already replaced mine in 1998. In about 5 year I may have to replace again  :tickedoff: I'm not looking forward for that.

jimmytee

Oversizing can be a big issue,however being that you're in Arizona, as long as the ductwork will handle the air volume needed for the increased tonnage, it would be less of an issue than where there is high humidity. One of the repercussions of oversizing A/C equipment is that without capacity control, it can have the ability to drop the "dry bulb" temperature too fast not allowing for proper dehumidification. The dry bulb temperature is the temperature you read on a traditional thermostat or thermometer. It does not take into account the amount of moisture in the air that we know as humidity. In climates with moderate to high humidity,  oversizing can result in the conditioned space feeling clammy or humid and warm. Most will try to combat an oversized situation by driving the set point down on the thermostat, resulting in increased energy consumption and possible equipment failures.  :coolsmiley:
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Jess from VA

Quote from: BigBF on Mon 27, May 2013, 21:43:31
Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 27, May 2013, 19:55:53
Nice job Bill.   :cooldude:

Stay off MY roof.  ;D

Thanks

There's no A/C on your roof it's on side of house and inside the closet  :D But good don't ask me to do the roof job ha ha ha... I don't like working on roof shingle :uglystupid2: but if I have to do it on my roof then I will bec I was shocked that my friend just had roof shingle replace and they asked for $12,000 oh my gawd... What a rip off then I found out other companies does that price too jeez. I already replaced mine in 1998. In about 5 year I may have to replace again  :tickedoff: I'm not looking forward for that.

$12K is nutz, thou I guess it depends on the house size.  Few years back, I got my 1500sqft, two peaked roof redone, pulling off THREE old shingle jobs (my PO was an idiot), using a 40-yr shingle, replacing 10 plywood sheets, redoing the main furnace stack, and new gutters and covers for $2500.

BigBF

Yah my A/C is good and cold while over 120 degree outside... I'm so spoiled with A/C. Oh yeah my parents raise me in A/C LOL...  :uglystupid2:

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Atl-Jerry

BBF,

Can you access that Honeywell thermostat directly from your smart phone/IPad or do you have to pay for an annual subscription?  I'm looking to install 2 units and am leaning towards the NEST, but $500 for a pair is kinda steep!

AJ

BigBF


BigBF

Quote from: Atl-Jerry on Thu 04, Jul 2013, 09:57:54
BBF,

Can you access that Honeywell thermostat directly from your smart phone/IPad or do you have to pay for an annual subscription?  I'm looking to install 2 units and am leaning towards the NEST, but $500 for a pair is kinda steep!

AJ
Yes see at the end of video it's ipad2. No monthly fee at all. Yes u can add both u can access and pick one or two to adjust the temp. $500? I forget how much I got mine I think $119 each.

Atl-Jerry

BBF,

I was looking at their top model, it's $249 each, not sure what it will do that yours won't.  I was looking at the URL on your IPAD and I see it's connecting back thru Honeywells servers and not directly to your IP or a DDNS service.  Usually they "give" you the first year of service, then there's an annual fee to connect to your own equipment.  I recently installed a Sears garage door opener where you can log in via a smart phone or IPAD to monitor/open/close it.  The first year is free, then it's $20 per year.  So far I've installed 3 IP cameras and I can connect directly to them without going thru anyone else.  As an absentee homeowner, I can keep an eye on things from far away.

Great job on that install, I bet an AC contractor wouldn't have done a better job!

AJ 

BigBF

Quote from: Atl-Jerry on Thu 04, Jul 2013, 21:26:53
BBF,

I was looking at their top model, it's $249 each, not sure what it will do that yours won't.  I was looking at the URL on your IPAD and I see it's connecting back thru Honeywells servers and not directly to your IP or a DDNS service.  Usually they "give" you the first year of service, then there's an annual fee to connect to your own equipment.  I recently installed a Sears garage door opener where you can log in via a smart phone or IPAD to monitor/open/close it.  The first year is free, then it's $20 per year.  So far I've installed 3 IP cameras and I can connect directly to them without going thru anyone else.  As an absentee homeowner, I can keep an eye on things from far away.

Great job on that install, I bet an AC contractor wouldn't have done a better job!

AJ 
Thanks...

Yeah I can connect directly but the problem if cable modem drop then back on sometimes IP address will be different. Had to find the right ip to get it. But I don't see Honeywell offer free for one year? Maybe I miss it in book of course I don't read em all. I just get it to work then figure out that way I can remember better than read book over and over... Yeah I have 8 security camera connect Lorex server it's free from Lorex no fee so far I had it since 4-5 years.

Jess Tolbirt

Quote from: jimmytee on Mon 27, May 2013, 22:04:37
Oversizing can be a big issue,however being that you're in Arizona, as long as the ductwork will handle the air volume needed for the increased tonnage, it would be less of an issue than where there is high humidity. One of the repercussions of oversizing A/C equipment is that without capacity control, it can have the ability to drop the "dry bulb" temperature too fast not allowing for proper dehumidification. The dry bulb temperature is the temperature you read on a traditional thermostat or thermometer. It does not take into account the amount of moisture in the air that we know as humidity. In climates with moderate to high humidity,  oversizing can result in the conditioned space feeling clammy or humid and warm. Most will try to combat an oversized situation by driving the set point down on the thermostat, resulting in increased energy consumption and possible equipment failures.  :coolsmiley:
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