damn frickin Post orifice sux

[Oss]

 Raul I do appreciate the effort for "sending " the fog lite button to me

Unfortunately the envelope had a hole in it where I betchya the button got caught on a machine
and pulled that button right out of the envelope  I got the note though   

Ya gots to have such hand cancelled if ever the occasion arises again

Thanks for trying though

[MarkT]

Yep.  They just misdelivered my red dot sight from Midway for my Ruger 10/22 - said it's delivered but nada here.  Probably the mail carrier, she's really sloppy - misdelivers mail all the time.  I think they modelled Cliffy on Cheers after her.

[biguglyman]

So Mark, the mailer doesn't package the item properly and the PO sux? Really??? Letter envelopes go through high speed LETTER sorting machines. I see this at work all the time. Should be sent as a large envelope with sufficient reinforcement or as a parcel. The window clerk at your local PO should be able to help with that. Oss...I don't know what to tell you. Carriers are under a lot of pressure these days to do more and more in less time. Sounds like somebody scanned it delivered when it wasn't ant that's not right. Got to your PO and ask to see a delivery supervisor. I've been with the USPS for more than 25 years, have operated all the machines they ever had as well as worked as a retail associate. If you're at Inzane I'll entertain you with some horror stories...

[gregk]

Sorry but I'll have to back up the biguglyman here as I've witnessed the P.O in very close operation for 41 3/4 years. I've seen a sloppy rural carrier casual (part timer)but the scope should be insured. Go see the Post master asap.  You cannot just put pins in an envolope without some cardboard to protect it an then it becomes a flat. The P.O. is verry efficent and those Machines that read the mail are extremly fast. Times are changing due to restructureing. Carriers here now are carring a meter that shows where they are at, Happy to be retired.

[eric in md]

Sorry but I'll have to back up the biguglyman here as I've witnessed the P.O in very close operation for 41 3/4 years. I've seen a sloppy rural carrier casual (part timer)but the scope should be insured. Go see the Post master asap.  You cannot just put pins in an envolope without some cardboard to protect it an then it becomes a flat. The P.O. is verry efficent and those Machines that read the mail are extremly fast. Times are changing due to restructureing. Carriers here now are carring a meter that shows where they are at, Happy to be retired.

YEA what they said  on my side i may add. please hey oss you the man miss ya .. ok back to po i drive a mail truck for 17 years now.. i hear it all the time also postage keeps going up for 46 cents to mail a letter across country , o wait get it there in 2 days also .. do us a favor you take just one letter see how much it cost you ? .i bet it cost a lot more then 46 cents .then 4 or 5 days later you might get it there,, heck take it across town still going to cost you more the 46 cents ..    also mail carrrier are really delivering your mail to your office (well maybe just to see your women) for free.. i said free.. if everyone in the usa would pay 5 dollars a year to usps for your mailman to deliver to your house/mailbox/ porch/ we would be in great shape.  i love my job

[cookiedough]

The man thing I dislike about our local post office is the 2 hour lunch break they get from 12:30 to 2:30.  Why anyone needs 2 hours for lunch is beyond me?  Maybe part of that though is the govt. cutting back hours at some local post offices but I bet they get paid for those 2 hours probably.   Not saying it is a gravy job by any means, but the benefits and pay is pretty darn good. 

[MarkT]

A red dot scope IS NOT in an envelope.  This is from Midway, they know how to package product.  I suffer the loss of my package and you attack me.  Any attempts for service at the local postal window have been fruitless and result in the customer being subjected to attitude.  The local postmaster and his crew are the epitome of the expression "going postal".  I avoid using them as much as possible but can't prevent some incoming pkgs from coming through that place.  I have instructed on my website for my customers to PLEASE not send me anything of value through the mail. The office needs to be closed and folded into another town's office.  I have written letters but nothing gets done.  FYI my carrier regularly misdelivers in our neighborhood.  I'm betting that's what happened.  It will be up to an honest neighbor to redeliver it, probably.  She delivered one of my neighbor's retirement checks to my box, I hand carried it to him.  NOTHING wrong with the address, she just SNAFU'd it.  He's like 90 and on fixed income, would have been big hardship if he hadn't had an honest neighbor.  I see mail misdelivered by her regularly.  They refuse to deliver packages to my house because they say it's 1/4 mile from the box.  It isn't, it's 300 yards.  We have had to tolerate a horrible local P.O. for years - have been neighborhood meetings about it.  I have had mail smashed and lost, dropped behind cabinets at the P.O., have tested them for speed and they are hopeless. You might be a career mail guy - but you don't know about the Franktown P.O. - don't tell me Franktown P.O. and the postmaster Frank Parker doesn't suck.  I have battled with that jerk several times and have reported him to his superiors in the USPS but he's still there last time I checked.  And I'm not alone in this. I'm not impressed with the USPS and so their situation is not surprising to me.  And I know it's not all malfeasance and mismanagement but much of their burden is due to age and momentum and politics and legacy issues.  I won't be able to get any recovery from the P.O. -I have already contacted Midway and if they don't fix it I will stop payment through Visa and buy the scope elsewhere.  Meanwhile I don't have my scope but I HAVE paid for it.

[biguglyman]

NOT attacking you MarkT! The envelope thing was about the button. Sounds like your local PO needs a good house cleaning. There are good and bad in every organization. I suggest going over their heads. Start by calling the 1-800-ask-usps #. The USPS also has a consumer advocate. Contact: The Consumer Advocate, U.S. Postal Service, Washington, D.C. 20260-6320. Or phone: 1-202-268-2284. As far as the 2 hour "lunch" break goes: no, they are not paid for that. They do it so the office can stay open earlier or later and still have the one person assigned there get all the other work done. I've been assigned to these types of offices and it's no picnic. They want the mail worked first thing in the morning and the window open until 5. They're answer: schedule you there from 7-5 with a two hour unpaid lunch. Sorry about your local problems, Mark. Believe me the majority of postal workers are good, hard-working people who have endured some real crap over the last few years.

[IamGCW]

Having seen first hand USPS employees in their best form (sleeping, whining, crying) at offices across the nation, well you can call and waste more of your time.  Best message is just use another method.  The smaller the Post Office the better the ethic, however that is not always the case.  The presort houses really make the USPS look weak. They are private and don't have the unions and pension.  They can do the same work in one third the time and actually do it correctly. 

Sounds like your package was too thick for the machines.  The machine should have kicked it out and if it did not the operator should have hand picked it from the buffer/feeder.  Either way it was a USPS employee that failed the system, operator or ET (tech).  Ask yourself, if the USPS employee is so good then why does their Police secretly monitor them from hidden rooms with two way mirrors, cameras and microphones?  We could help the budget by dropping the USPS and privatizing the mail.

[Master Blaster]

Some Postmasters are petty beaurocrats, sadly like tons of public leaders.  You know big frogs in a small pond.   Mine leans that direction, but the route and counter people are super, and I try to let them know that.  I also think its a business that faces tremendous challenges in this electronic age with declining profits and liberal benefits, especaily with this pro union adminestration. 

[MarkT]

ANOTHER package misdeliverd TODAY.  Tracking says it was at the Franktown P.O. this morning, and out for delivery.  A coil for my Honda tractor from Heartland Honda.  Flagged the mail carrier down to tell her about yesterday - and she had already misdelivered this one today.  USELESS.  INCOMPETENT.  WHY THE HELL DOES SHE STILL HAVE A JOB?  Because it's deliberate thanks to that a-hole Frank Parker.