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Police seize homes, arrest owners to investigate neighbor

Started by Robert, Tue 09, Jul 2013, 11:22:42

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Robert

A family is suing the city of Henderson, Nevada for violating their Third Amendment rights — the constitutional prohibition against quartering soldiers in a private home during peacetime without the owner's consent.

The Mitchell family says that's essentially what happened when Henderson police allegedly arrested them for refusing to let officers use their homes for a "tactical advantage" in a domestic violence investigation into a neighbor, according to an official complaint.

Police officers contacted Anthony Mitchell on July 10, 2011, with a request to use his house as a lookout while investigating his neighbor. When Mitchell told police that he did not wish to be involved, the complaint alleges, police decided they would use the residence anyway.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/05/lawsuit-police-seize-homes-arrest-owners-to-investigate-neighbor/

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Jess from VA

I believe they have a good civil suit for criminal trespass, unlawful use of force, destruction of property, and intentional infliction of mental distress, maybe abuse of process, but the 3d Amend claim is out there... it applies to occupying soldiers.  I wish them luck.... last I heard, your house cannot be taken over (by force) without your consent or a warrant of some kind. 

fiddle mike

Civil Rights violations, police brutality and civilian deaths are on the rise as troops  trained in places like Afghanistan come cops.  I'd like to see combat vets barred from becoming LEOs.

Momz

Quote from: fiddle mike on Tue 09, Jul 2013, 15:44:16
Civil Rights violations, police brutality and civilian deaths are on the rise as troops  trained in places like Afghanistan come cops.  I'd like to see combat vets barred from becoming LEOs.

As much as I'd like to disagree,.....you have a valid point.
Or maybe a certain "waiting period" before police training.

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NCGhostrider

While I doubt they will win on 3rd Amendment grounds.  I do understand their take on the situation.  Police forces across the nation are training and acting more like Military forces everyday. 

I am all for law enforcement, and I know someone will argue the "few bad eggs" point.  But the delineation of what is right and wrong is only determined by a team of lawyers and how much money someone has to spend to determine their rights... IMHO...

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Quote from: NCGhostrider on Tue 09, Jul 2013, 19:23:38
But the delineation of what is right and wrong is only determined by a team of lawyers and how much money someone has to spend to determine their rights... IMHO...

Craig
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The US is Supposed to be a nation of laws.

It is the job of law enforcement to enforce those laws.

They should do so without breaking the law.

These officers, should know that the law says they can only enter a person's home without a warrant if someone's life is in emminent danger.

They should also kow that they cannot "commandeer" someones home for the purpose of spying on their neighbors.


I don't know about the 3rd amendment argument, I would think that others would be more appropriate.

What I do know is that a great number of "wrongs" were committed here.

Every officer involved should have known that what they were doing was wrong.

Therefore every officer involved should be fired, charged and criminally tried.

The classic war crime defense of, "I was just following orders", does not hold water.

Every military member knows that they are required to refuse to follow an order if it is an "unlawful" one.

Police officers should at least be held to the same level of accountability.
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Liberty Bell

We are becoming a police state..
everyday it seems there is another report of such abuse....
I wonder how many go totally unreported.

I understand that police have a dangerous job, I respect that...
My problem is when the police treat EVERYONE like they are a criminal instead of with the respect they are due as a law abiding citizen.
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Robert

Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed By The President

I posted only a few relating to health care professionals and the revealing of your personal information for the purpose of back ground checks. full article http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
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Robert

 NSA is quietly writing code for Google's Android OS
Tech giants listed as part of the National Security Agency's Prism spying program have gone to some lengths to convince the world they aren't in bed with the U.S. government. Google   has filed a request with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court asking permission to disclose more information about the government's data requests. So there's a certain irony that NSA programmers are now refining code that Google has approved for the company's mobile operating system, Android. Google spokeswoman Gina Scigliano confirms that the company has already inserted some of the NSA's programming in Android OS. "All Android code and contributors are publicly available for review at source.android.com," Scigliano says, declining to comment further.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-07-03/security-enhanced-android-nsa-edition
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