Now Holder and the "Just Us" dept. is looking at the Zimmerman case.

[John Schmidt]

Now they're trying to decide if they want to go after him under different pretense. Apparently just because one court finds a person not guilty, the Feds can come in, put a different label on it and try him again. Just because it has a different name, to me it seems like he would be tried all over again for the same crime. That's not fair in my book.

[WamegoRob]

That's not fair in my book.

See, here's the thing... they're using a different book now.

[Cotton Mouth]

Have the Feds finished (or even began to)  prosecute the  blacks that have seriously injured or murdered people because of their skin color (white)???

[Tx Bohemian]

That's not fair in my book.

See, here's the thing... they're using a different book now.

Maybe this "different" book will allow the past of TM to be presented so the whole truth can come out!!

[Jess from VA]

It is not a violation of 5thAmend. double jeopardy to try someone for a State crime and then a Fed civil rights violation for the same conduct.  Been done before, with Fed convictions following State acquittals.  When civil rights marchers were murdered and no conviction could be secured in any State court, at least some perps were able to be given a few years in jail for murder under Fed civil rights laws. 

First, for criminal prosecution purposes, the Fed and a State are separate sovereigns, and this is well established law (though the Fed has traditionally been reluctant to retry an identical charge for which a defendant was acquitted under State law).  Second, while the conduct underlying each trial would be the same, murder/manslaughter under Fl (or any State) law, is not the same offense (crime) as a Fed violation of civil rights.  

However, given the clear facts of this case (self defense), a decision by Comrade Holder to press a civil rights case will be nothing more than a political-persecution-witch-hunt, further showing the US DOJ is nothing more than an enforcement arm for socialist policy, and a bag of crap worthy of contempt.  

[Patrick]

If this does happen, its just more proof that this admin is just a bunch of dim-wits.

[musclehead]

remember the video of the voter intimidation that came out of the '08 election? ( I'm at work and can't access youtube) the new black panthers caught on tape shouting racial slurs outside a polling place went unpunished for openly violating civil rights.

it IS a new playbook

[FLAVALK]

Holder will be speaking to the NAACP today in Orlando and they (NAACP) will be leaning on him hard to get the feds involved. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he does 

[MP]

I do not think they could win, but I believe Holder will pursue it, just to appease the black voting block.  The same reason that, after the local DA and police decided Zimmerman acted in self defense, they brought in outsiders to prosecute him.  And then lost.

It amazes me to hear all the calls to overturn self defense laws!  Libs want to change, so that there is no self defense allowed!  No shooting blacks who are beating you to death.  You MUST let them beat you to a pulp, or go to prison!  Amazing.

As all this cr=p goes on, I am LOSING my tolerance for blacks.  No matter what is said or done, it is all the crackers fault.  And, as they say, cracker is NOT a racial thing.  Of course, n===er is!

All that they are doing is widening the divide between blacks and whites, not closing it.

Sharpton, Jackson, et al, are NOT civil rights leaders, they are AGITATORS, plain and simple.

MP

[Master Blaster]

All the race baiters have to do this, its their only means of support/power/priviledge.  Sharpton is in his glory, getting face time on national tv.  If it wasnt for trumped up BS, they would fade into oblivion.

[Tx Bohemian]

I do not think they could win, but I believe Holder will pursue it, just to appease the black voting block.  The same reason that, after the local DA and police decided Zimmerman acted in self defense, they brought in outsiders to prosecute him.  And then lost.

I agree

As all this cr=p goes on, I am LOSING my tolerance for blacks.  No matter what is said or done, it is all the crackers fault.  And, as they say, cracker is NOT a racial thing.  Of course, n===er is!

A little side note on the "cracker" thing:
I heard that the term cracker comes from the guy who used to whip the slaves was called a "cracker" because he "cracked" the whip.
Don't know how true that is but in light of recent events it kinda makes me proud...

All that they are doing is widening the divide between blacks and whites, not closing it.

Sharpton, Jackson, et al, are NOT civil rights leaders, they are AGITATORS, plain and simple.

MP

I have to, unfortunatley, agree with you here too.

[musclehead]

I do not think they could win, but I believe Holder will pursue it, just to appease the black voting block.  The same reason that, after the local DA and police decided Zimmerman acted in self defense, they brought in outsiders to prosecute him.  And then lost.

It amazes me to hear all the calls to overturn self defense laws!  Libs want to change, so that there is no self defense allowed!  No shooting blacks who are beating you to death.  You MUST let them beat you to a pulp, or go to prison!  Amazing.

As all this cr=p goes on, I am LOSING my tolerance for blacks.  No matter what is said or done, it is all the crackers fault.  And, as they say, cracker is NOT a racial thing.  Of course, n===er is!

All that they are doing is widening the divide between blacks and whites, not closing it.

Sharpton, Jackson, et al, are NOT civil rights leaders, they are AGITATORS, plain and simple.

MP

hey ya cracker! I wonder if it would be ok for white guys to call each other crackers since the black guys call each other,..... well you know

[czuch]

As the price of a slave was just about $600.00/1500.00 at the time when the average city house hold income was 400.00 a year. They were, albiet wrong, the price of a tractor.
They werent whipped like pack mules.
that is largley myth that has been by perpretraited by the baiters. Sensationalism sells.
The DOJ has no real biz in this.
Boy am I gonna get it now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[musclehead]

As the price of a slave was just about $600.00/1500.00 at the time when the average city house hold income was 400.00 a year. They were, albiet wrong, the price of a tractor.
They werent whipped like pack mules.
that is largley myth that has been by perpretraited by the baiters. Sensationalism sells.
The DOJ has no real biz in this.
Boy am I gonna get it now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

when they tried to run away to freedom they were whipped to make an example of them. slavery is wrong, every few years there were slave uprisings that were pretty brutal but I don't blame them.

there is a lot of our history that has been rewritten....

[Patrick]

History has been rewritten, but, its also largely not been known. Slavery in this country was started by a free black land owner suing 'his' black indentured servant at the end of his indenture contract. The practice then spread like wildfire.

[PAVALKER]

I do not think they could win, but I believe Holder will pursue it, just to appease the black voting block.  The same reason that, after the local DA and police decided Zimmerman acted in self defense, they brought in outsiders to prosecute him.  And then lost.

It amazes me to hear all the calls to overturn self defense laws!  Libs want to change, so that there is no self defense allowed!  No shooting blacks who are beating you to death.  You MUST let them beat you to a pulp, or go to prison!  Amazing.

As all this cr=p goes on, I am LOSING my tolerance for blacks.  No matter what is said or done, it is all the crackers fault.  And, as they say, cracker is NOT a racial thing.  Of course, n===er is!

All that they are doing is widening the divide between blacks and whites, not closing it.

Sharpton, Jackson, et al, are NOT civil rights leaders, they are AGITATORS, plain and simple.

MP

hey ya cracker! I wonder if it would be ok for white guys to call each other crackers since the black guys call each other,..... well you know

In a derogatory use you would end the word (either the N or C word) with an R.... However, I have been told that in a non derogatory, kind of affectionate brotherly use that the N word is ended with an A vice an R.  

So, you might call me Cracka.... but don't ever call me Cracker......   and heaven forbid you call me late for dinner or lunch.  

[musclehead]

I do not think they could win, but I believe Holder will pursue it, just to appease the black voting block.  The same reason that, after the local DA and police decided Zimmerman acted in self defense, they brought in outsiders to prosecute him.  And then lost.

It amazes me to hear all the calls to overturn self defense laws!  Libs want to change, so that there is no self defense allowed!  No shooting blacks who are beating you to death.  You MUST let them beat you to a pulp, or go to prison!  Amazing.

As all this cr=p goes on, I am LOSING my tolerance for blacks.  No matter what is said or done, it is all the crackers fault.  And, as they say, cracker is NOT a racial thing.  Of course, n===er is!

All that they are doing is widening the divide between blacks and whites, not closing it.

Sharpton, Jackson, et al, are NOT civil rights leaders, they are AGITATORS, plain and simple.

MP

hey ya cracker! I wonder if it would be ok for white guys to call each other crackers since the black guys call each other,..... well you know

In a derogatory use you would end the word (either the N or C word) with an R.... However, I have been told that in a non derogatory, kind of affectionate brotherly use that the N word is ended with an A vice an R.  

So, you might call me Cracka.... but don't ever call me Cracker......   and heaven forbid you call me late for dinner or lunch.  

maybe it's spelled like this "crackah"