this is why you should post about what you know....

[musclehead]

you won't catch me opining about subdural hematomas, or schindleria praematurus. why? because I'm not a neural surgeon or a marine biologist (but I am a YES fan  )

people that know virtually nothing about firearms feel the need to open their collective mouths and insert their foot as far as humanly possible

I read this and had to share;

The Gun George Zimmerman Used To Murder Trayvon Martin

George Zimmerman used a Kel Tec Pf 9, 9mm, semi-automatic pistol to kill Trayvon Martin.  As I've stated before, the gun is a "double-action only," which means the chamber must be pulled fully in order to fire it.  And, you do have to rooster the chamber when you first load a round from the magazine into the gun. See videos below of these guys cocking the Chamber in order to load the first round from the magazine into the chamber.  After that, because the gun is "Double Action only", it will fire without cocking the chamber, but only if you pull the 7 pound trigger (after the manufacture fixed some of the flaws in this gun, some people say the trigger is easier to pull).

And, like I've said, George Zimmerman would have already had to have had the gun out in order to have cocked the chamber, in order to load the first bullet into the chamber, and fire it.  And, The Kel Tec 9 pistol manuel states that bullets should not be loaded into the gun if you are not going to use it. (This is because "no" there is no safety mechanism on the Kel Tec 9, because it is double action. That was my own mistake, because I was thinking of the single action pistol-which does have a safety on it.) And, because Zimmerman had planned on shooting Martin, or some other black man walking around in the neighborhood that night-he already had the chamber loaded, and ready-there is no other possible way.  So, Zimmerman's claims that he pulled his gun out of his holster and shot Martin, because Martin saw his gun and grabbed it is complete b.s. The Kel Tec 9 is small, and designed for concealment.  And, both Zimmerman's gun and holster were black.  And, it was so black outside that night, that most of the witnesses on further questioning had to admit that they could hardly see both Zimmerman and Martin in the dark, much less see who was on who, or even who had the gun. 


there is more but it goes on a racist tangent and therefore not worth the read

[9Ball]

These people and their ilk don't care about the facts or even learning them before stating their opinion.

It's really not worth the time trying to educate them because their conclusions are firmly in hand long before knowing the actual details.

[musclehead]

These people and their ilk don't care about the facts or even learning them before stating their opinion.

It's really not worth the time trying to educate them because their conclusions are firmly in hand long before knowing the actual details.

you know that's pretty much true, I replied to a anti gun youtuber once, told him I'd like to take him out shooting sometime to educate him. all I got in return was a curse filled rant about what a low-life red necked scum I was. pffft 

[alph]

Yesterday I was in Winona Mn. doing a college tour with my daughter.  I saw I black kid, wearing a hoodie sweet shirt with long jeans on.  My first thought was he wanted to "look" like travon martin to intimidate people, or to make a statement that wearing a hoody is tough.

Some of you might have been in LaCrosse at INZANE on Thursday, it was 97* in Winona that day!!  I'm thinking that kid's brains had gotten fried!!

I wonder how many more "travon-wannabee's" will be walking around with hoodies in this summer heat?

[FLAVALK]

Have you been reading the Huff & Puffington Post again?

[musclehead]

Have you been reading the Huff & Puffington Post again?

reading something liberal  but not the huff post 

[Chrisj CMA]

Holy crap...I guess I just am looking for a person to shoot too.  I carry a revolver, fully loaded and there is no safety.  So the fact that its loaded means I want to shoot someone, and they can tell that Z wanted to shoot a black person specifically just by how his gun was loaded.....JUST WOW

[Varmintmist]

Ya know, that is a awfully busy chamber on that PF9. I wonder what the cycle of fire looks like on that. Gotta be pretty quick, mine seems to work pretty normally.

Its grey and black, so it might be a self proclaimed grey area....... hmmm.

[john]

                  " what a low-life red necked scum I was " 
                            ???                         
   anti gun youtuber ...           
               brain dead Kool-Aid drinkers ...
luv the keltecs ... I have three ... they all have a round chambered
       its called draw and fire ...
              not draw and dick around with the pistol
my opinion ... I thought the shooter would hang ...
                             he is the instigator

[Regis]

No but they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night !

[musclehead]

draw and fire is the optimal response. not draw .... hang on a sec.... there we go BANG!