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I see so many bikes wobbling and weaving down the road.

Why oh why can't they keep a straight line on a straight road.

I imagine these are the same people who find it impossible to keep in the center of the lane whilst driving their car around a curve.

old2soon

Quote from: Britman on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:17:43
I see so many bikes wobbling and weaving down the road.

Why oh why can't they keep a straight line on a straight road.

I imagine these are the same people who find it impossible to keep in the center of the lane whilst driving their car around a curve.
I am truly surprised and saddened by how close people get at an "event" when riding in what is supposed to be a staggered formation.  :crazy2: And a very emphatic NO did NOT have this problem at Inzane. RIDE SAFE.
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check.  1964  1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
VRCCDS0240  2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion

Raider

I don't ride a HD, but I am all over the lane.  I use whichever part of the lane will give me the best picture of the road ahead and put me in the best place to be noticed by other motorists. 

Oh, and I get pissed when riding a staggered formation, and someone is right on my fender.  Had to swerve to miss a cage that crossed teh double yellow, and BARELY missed the rider who was WAY within the one second margin. Ridiculous.

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Quote from: Raider on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:38:18
I don't ride a HD, but I am all over the lane.  I use whichever part of the lane will give me the best picture of the road ahead and put me in the best place to be noticed by other motorists. 

Oh, and I get pissed when riding a staggered formation, and someone is right on my fender.  Had to swerve to miss a cage that crossed teh double yellow, and BARELY missed the rider who was WAY within the one second margin. Ridiculous.

I too use all the lane as needed. That's not the problem. It's the doofus (doofi?) who can't keep a bike straight when there's nothing to warrant a change in direction.


Otus

I have a friend that I ride with once in a while and too many times I looked over and his front tire was next to my rear tire. I now insist that he leads

cookiedough

I try to not follow too closely as well since like me, am sure most don't like tailgaters.  However,  on a few rides with other bikers, I have had a tendency to follow too closely at times certain riders who say, for example, slow down really too much for corners, and I am not a speed burner by any means.  Everyone has different levels of riding skills and habits of how they feel comfortable riding and that can get us all into trouble. 

I see a ton more HD riders staggered with mere feet between them and that scares me, surprise it doesn't scare them at all though. 

solo1

Some think that the two second rule applies to how fast they can down a shot of Jack Daniels.

old2soon

Quote from: solo1 on Mon 09, Sep 2013, 09:41:56
Some think that the two second rule applies to how fast they can down a shot of Jack Daniels.
Been on 1 or 2 poker runs like that.  :-\ Don't do them kinda poker runs no mo.  :cooldude: RIDE SAFE.
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check.  1964  1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
VRCCDS0240  2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion

Tx Bohemian

Quote from: Otus on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:45:33
I have a friend that I ride with once in a while and too many times I looked over and his front tire was next to my rear tire. I now insist that he leads

I too have a friend that does that, but he likes to do the "Chips" thing where he will ride right up even with me!!  First time or two he did that I thought he was pulling up to tell/ask me something.  But oh no, he wanted to ride like that!!
Freaks me out something terrible!!  Had to tell him that ain't gonna work, either you lead or I will, but not both!!
Remember, if you are on a bike and wreck with a car no matter how "in the right" you are you are going to lose. RIDE LIKE EVERBODY IS OUT TO GET YOU!!
Al

Rebyl

Quote from: Raider on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:38:18
I don't ride a HD, but I am all over the lane.  I use whichever part of the lane will give me the best picture of the road ahead and put me in the best place to be noticed by other motorists. 

Oh, and I get pissed when riding a staggered formation, and someone is right on my fender.  Had to swerve to miss a cage that crossed teh double yellow, and BARELY missed the rider who was WAY within the one second margin. Ridiculous.
Right on the money Raider, you aren't a member of I.A.M are you ?.
It's what is taught IAM is Institute of Advanced Motorists. More people including those who believe they are good riders should take these courses. I been riding over 30 years now and loved the courses and learnt a lot, also run courses here in NZ on Motoman Jerry's system of slow bike control, it amazes me how many riders cannot turn a bike on the flat let alone go round a real corner correctly...I never stop learning... I ride a Harley and a Valkyrie...both awesome bikes

Michael K (Az.)

As I do a lot of videos and still photography while riding I usually ride sweep so I can get who I'm ridin with in frame plus I have more leeway in lane floating when I need to do that. Strangely enough, all this multitasking relaxes me as compared to tensing me up! I see diverse riding styles while back there and I found that I'm lucky that I end up riding with highly competent riders most of the time. Ridden all over the country and in many terrains and weather conditions and it never gets old!! I have no problem holding my line if we're in stagger formation or bending an apex or 3 if the mood strikes. Be careful out there!
"I'd never join a club that would have me as a member!" G.Marx

PAVALKER

Quote from: Britman on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:17:43
I see so many bikes wobbling and weaving down the road.

Why oh why can't they keep a straight line on a straight road.

I imagine these are the same people who find it impossible to keep in the center of the lane whilst driving their car around a curve.

I take and use my whole lane unless at a light where I can be side by side to talk with another rider. Sometimes I intentionally "weave down the road" side to side in my lane for the pure pleasure of weaving side to side, but still staying in my lane.  It is not only fun, and helps others SEE ME, it also facilitates them giving me more space and not coming into mine or coming so close.


And as someone else alluded to... it can be called asphalt dancing, maybe maneuvering out of the way from other items on the road. 
John                           

HayHauler

After being rear ended twice, I ride tailgunner or I don't ride.  Once was while riding and the other was parked in the parking lot. 

I too ride where I have the best view if the road ahead and to give the driver on front of me the best view of ME. 

Hay 8)
Jimmyt
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Quote from: PAVALKER on Mon 09, Sep 2013, 12:50:17
Quote from: Britman on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:17:43
I see so many bikes wobbling and weaving down the road.

Why oh why can't they keep a straight line on a straight road.

I imagine these are the same people who find it impossible to keep in the center of the lane whilst driving their car around a curve.

I take and use my whole lane unless at a light where I can be side by side to talk with another rider. Sometimes I intentionally "weave down the road" side to side in my lane for the pure pleasure of weaving side to side, but still staying in my lane.  It is not only fun, and helps others SEE ME, it also facilitates them giving me more space and not coming into mine or coming so close.


As a non riding car drive if I saw a bike "weaving down the road" I would think medical emergency or out of control.

PAVALKER

Quote from: Britman on Mon 09, Sep 2013, 13:53:06
Quote from: PAVALKER on Mon 09, Sep 2013, 12:50:17
Quote from: Britman on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:17:43
I see so many bikes wobbling and weaving down the road.

Why oh why can't they keep a straight line on a straight road.

I imagine these are the same people who find it impossible to keep in the center of the lane whilst driving their car around a curve.

I take and use my whole lane unless at a light where I can be side by side to talk with another rider. Sometimes I intentionally "weave down the road" side to side in my lane for the pure pleasure of weaving side to side, but still staying in my lane.  It is not only fun, and helps others SEE ME, it also facilitates them giving me more space and not coming into mine or coming so close.


As a non riding car drive if I saw a bike "weaving down the road" I would think medical emergency or out of control.

Nah, I am pretty sure you could tell that I was having fun and keeping a rhythm in my weave.  There are times I do weave around pot holes, dead animals, or even tar snakes to avoid them.    I have not had an emergency vehicle approach in all my years of riding thinking I was having a medical emergency or out of control...

And if you ever rode in PA... you would understand the large number of pot holes, tar snakes and even dead animals.  The weave is another means to stay alert, keep my head and bike on a swivel, to stay or get in a drivers line of sight, be seen and avoid potential road hazards. 
John                           

Raider

Quote from: Rebyl on Mon 09, Sep 2013, 12:41:16
Quote from: Raider on Sun 08, Sep 2013, 20:38:18
I don't ride a HD, but I am all over the lane.  I use whichever part of the lane will give me the best picture of the road ahead and put me in the best place to be noticed by other motorists. 

Oh, and I get pissed when riding a staggered formation, and someone is right on my fender.  Had to swerve to miss a cage that crossed teh double yellow, and BARELY missed the rider who was WAY within the one second margin. Ridiculous.
Right on the money Raider, you aren't a member of I.A.M are you ?.
It's what is taught IAM is Institute of Advanced Motorists. More people including those who believe they are good riders should take these courses. I been riding over 30 years now and loved the courses and learnt a lot, also run courses here in NZ on Motoman Jerry's system of slow bike control, it amazes me how many riders cannot turn a bike on the flat let alone go round a real corner correctly...I never stop learning... I ride a Harley and a Valkyrie...both awesome bikes

No, just been blessed with good riding buddies and the Marine Corps "forces" us to take rider training (basic and advanced courses).