Some Obama Care Provisions By The Page Number

[DIGGER]

MEDICARE AT AGE 76
IMPORTANT PLEASE READ - ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THIS IS TRUE CAN DOWNLOAD THE NEW OBAMA CARE AND LOOK UP THE PAGES MENTIONED. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.....................

PLEASE PASS THIS OUTRAGE TO EVERYONE ON YOUR LIST!!! THIS should be read by everyone, especially important to those over 75......

If you are younger, then it may apply to your parents....

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for It! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor it is treated as Outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the Iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happen in this year and 2014!

Age 76 today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B-12 shot that I have been getting for a number of years. The nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled and ready to go then looked at the computer and got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes
care of it.

She said, that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. About it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in.

She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very Sorry!!

Please for the sake of many good people. . . ..be informed please .

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...

At age 76 when you most need it most, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.
Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number

THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB 3200 Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. Residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individuals' bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. This is what they do in Sweden too. I know because Alf's daughter Ann is an OBGYN, and her husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patients' age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling.)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.


HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn't apply to them!!! HOLY TOLEDO !!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP TO WASHINGTON.....NOW! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!

Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls, Texas

All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

[MP]

Ahh!  But it is soooo good for you!  All the Progressives have told us that, so it MUST be true.  The Annointed One told us today that all the negative talk is because of dislike and racism directed at HIM!  The bill is great.

MP

[FLAVALK]

Well, THEY passed it and now WE get to find out whats in it.

Snopes says this is false but I believe about half of what they say

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/kithil.asp

[bentwrench]

We are at a strange impass in america today.It's too late to do anything at the ballot box and too early to start shooting these bastards.(paraphrasing Claiure Wolfe)
BW

[DIGGER]

My Brother, age 55,  went to his doctor last week and my brother asked the doc how he thought it was going to go down.      The doc said that to begin with that your personal insurance is going to double in price right off the bat.  Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests and jobs due to Obamacare setting the doctors prices.  Specialty doctors that generally charge more will become a thing of the past as they are not going to accept getting the same pay as a general practitioner as Obamacare says. 

We'll see.

[musclehead]

"this is the democrat plan for you at age 76, if you get sick die, and die fast"

I'd like to read through this brobdingnagian bill but I have way too much to do.

[john]

                 Brob·ding·nag·i·an (br b d ng-n g-n) adj. Immense; enormous. [After Brobdingnag, a country in Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift, where everything was enormous.]         ???                   

[WayneH]

It's false, but apparently that doesn't make any difference to some folks.

[Jack]

I think 'End of Life" counseling is a good thing.

[Serk]

I think 'End of Life" counseling is a good thing.

...as long as whomever is doing said counseling doesn't have a fiduciary interest in making that end come as quickly as possible, which would be the case under this monstrosity...

[IamGCW]

Sure has the country in an uproar.  I am sick of it, will that illness be covered?

[G-Man]

"this is the democrat plan for you at age 76, if you get sick die, and die fast"

I'd like to read through this brobdingnagian bill but I have way too much to do.

But that Democrat in Florida said it was the Republicans that want to throw Granny off of the cliff.   

[G-Man]

I think 'End of Life" counseling is a good thing.

Not if it's mandatory.

[Patrick]

This is good to read again, but, for those of us that have read some of the whole package [ I thinks its up to about 2200 pages now] we knew this some time ago. From everything I've read, it ain't gonna be good, especially for us responsible legal folks. Time will tell.

[G-Man]

One thing is true, Medicare has cut reimbursements to physicians and other care providers, labs, radiology centers, etc. buy about 20% over the last 3 years.  Part of that pay for 10 for 6 years of service.  The healthcare industry has already taken their hits with more to come once the law is fully in effect. 

My parents have already seen the effects in the land of senior citizens... Delray Beach, Florida.  (from Goodfella's: "It's like ya died and woke up in Jew heaven").  They and their group of friends attend the same seminars and talks about Medicare and the co-insurances (Medicare never covers everything) and the HMO's that they can assign over their coverage to, etc.  It's mind boggling the amount of info.  They all wind up choosing the same, based on the "salesman's" recommendations.  3 years ago, one of the friends had a knee replaced and was "allowed" to go to a rehab facility in the neighborhood where they live.  Last year, due to the new law,...this was according to the co-insurance they have, Dad had to go to a rehab facility 10 miles away in not so nice of a neighborhood.  I was there for a about a week, but then Mom had to rely carservice at $30 each way or rely on one of their friends to take her back and forth. 

Because EVERYBODY wants EVERYTHING, and the Democrats believe that half of the country should give them EVERYTHING, we are ALL gonna suffer, most of all our senior citizens who played along with the system that is now turning against them.  I can see if they/we had a choice.  Pay in and you get what they give.  Opt out and keep that money for when you need it.  But there was no choice given to folks who believed in the system, and are now getting shafted. 

Only the gov't can foul a ponzie thing like insurance and gambling like OTB.  When was the last time you heard of an insurance company going broke or a casino not making money?  Only when run by the gov't. 

[Daddie O]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

[musclehead]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

I tell you what, why don't you go read it and tell us what it says?

instead of just listening to CCN to explain it to you 

[musclehead]

                 Brob·ding·nag·i·an (br b d ng-n g-n) adj. Immense; enormous. [After Brobdingnag, a country in Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift, where everything was enormous.]         ???                   

I once use that word in proper context to the owner of the trucking company I was working for at the time. his eyes got a little big 

(I read a lot, an AWFUL lot, seems like I should be using bigger words but I like to keep it simple)

[Daddie O]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

I tell you what, why don't you go read it and tell us what it says?

instead of just listening to CCN to explain it to you 

What is CCN?  Do you mean CNN?  I don't really watch the news on tv, since it is never really facts, just a bunch of opinionated people editorializing while shouting over each other.

[Serk]

brobdingnagian bill

I'll admit using that word here really put a smile on my face. Never thought I'd see such verbiage here!

Doubly entertaining since one of my favorite musical acts is the sadly now defunct Brobdingnagian Bards - http://thebards.net/

[musclehead]

brobdingnagian bill

I'll admit using that word here really put a smile on my face. Never thought I'd see such verbiage here!

Doubly entertaining since one of my favorite musical acts is the sadly now defunct Brobdingnagian Bards - http://thebards.net/

[musclehead]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

umm we are broke. or aren't we borrowing 40+ cents of every dollar spent?

[G-Man]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

I'm not sure what you are replying to.  I never mentioned anything about anything going broke, or what part of this is that.  I just stated the FACT (prove me wrong) that medicare has cut reimbursements by 20% already and seniors are seeing the effects.

I also gave examples of how gov't fails at something that should make tons of money.

Not sure what all the part a and part b is about and really don't care cause it didn't add anything.

No, 10 miles isn't the end of the world, but your dramatics was cute. However, for seniors in their late 70's, on a fixed income with a moderate savings, to fork out $60, usually twice a day,  7 days, and then more as now she has to do the errands as well, is a lot, don't you think?  And the added expense is due to Medicare's decreased re-imbursement to the facilities because of the law.  This is what the insurance company told us and something I have experience with.  Where's the dispute? 

You say the law didn't go into effect.  Where have you been?  The decreased reimbursements and some taxation kicked in immediately and additional taxes kick in every year since it was signed.  Kids covered until 26 is in effect (my daughter is 19 and we just signed her up).  It was in effect at the stroke of a pen.  

[musclehead]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

I'm not sure what you are replying to.  I never mentioned anything about anything going broke, or what part of this is that.  I just stated the FACT (prove me wrong) that medicare has cut reimbursements by 20% already and seniors are seeing the effects.

I also gave examples of how gov't fails at something that should make tons of money.

Not sure what all the part a and part b is about and really don't care cause it didn't add anything.

No, 10 miles isn't the end of the world, but your dramatics was cute. However, for seniors in their late 70's, on a fixed income with a moderate savings, to fork out $60, usually twice a day,  7 days, and then more as now she has to do the errands as well, is a lot, don't you think?  And the added expense is due to Medicare's decreased re-imbursement to the facilities because of the law.  This is what the insurance company told us and something I have experience with.  Where's the dispute? 

You say the law didn't go into effect.  Where have you been?  The decreased reimbursements and some taxation kicked in immediately and additional taxes kick in every year since it was signed.  Kids covered until 26 is in effect (my daughter is 19 and we just signed her up).  It was in effect at the stroke of a pen.  

the taxes have been front loaded for years now, that alone is a drag on the economy.

[BF]

You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.

[WayneH]

Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests...

Like what?  Auto mechanic?  Day trader?  Working in a 7-11?

[Novavalker]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/nadeem-esmail/canada-free-health-care_b_3733080.html

Look north. Our health isn't cheap either.

Far too many North Americans are eating their way into a health crisis. Don't expect the health system to sort you out. You did it to yourself.

[DIGGER]

Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests...

Like what?  Auto mechanic?  Day trader?  Working in a 7-11?

Doctors have a lot of college behind them........i find it hard to believe they couldn't  find a job in the job market that pays well.....or go to another country where they can get paid well.

[WayneH]

Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests...

Like what?  Auto mechanic?  Day trader?  Working in a 7-11?

Doctors have a lot of college behind them........i find it hard to believe they couldn't  find a job in the job market that pays well.....or go to another country where they can get paid well.

I was just trying to understand where this "mass exodus" of doctors was going to.

They are going to be hard pressed to pull down the kind of coin that they get as doctors.

http://www.physician-salary.org/

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XFY_yYc75y8/UQwrpOzXH6I/AAAAAAAAADw/7QGR9JdZXVE/s1600/salary+following+experience.jpg

And they will be very hard pressed to get anything near US salaries were they to move overseas.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0MbXYJVptU/TnF8vi2caZI/AAAAAAAAAx8/brAhBsMtzAc/s640/crsdoctors.jpg

[musclehead]

Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests...

Like what?  Auto mechanic?  Day trader?  Working in a 7-11?

Doctors have a lot of college behind them........i find it hard to believe they couldn't  find a job in the job market that pays well.....or go to another country where they can get paid well.

I was just trying to understand where this "mass exodus" of doctors was going to.

They are going to be hard pressed to pull down the kind of coin that they get as doctors.

http://www.physician-salary.org/

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XFY_yYc75y8/UQwrpOzXH6I/AAAAAAAAADw/7QGR9JdZXVE/s1600/salary+following+experience.jpg

And they will be very hard pressed to get anything near US salaries were they to move overseas.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0MbXYJVptU/TnF8vi2caZI/AAAAAAAAAx8/brAhBsMtzAc/s640/crsdoctors.jpg

why go into a specialty as a doctor when your going to be paid the same as a GP?

[Serk]

Also, there will be a mass exodus of the doctor profession as they can make more money in other interests...

Like what?  Auto mechanic?  Day trader?  Working in a 7-11?

Early retirement when they can, or find a government job before those are all gone (Like my PCP did a few years ago. Best doctor I've ever had, he saw the writing on the wall, got a job with the county prison system and shut his private practice down.) I'm currently seeing a specialist surgeon to try to get needed surgery done while our nation still has a health care system. He's built a very successful practice over the years, he is VERY good at what he does. Told me as the provisions of Obamacare have begun kicking in his practice has fallen by half in the last year or two. If this continues he'll have to close his practice down too.

Yeah, you can find the occasional rose-colored glasses report, but if you wanna see what we're talking about, give this a look see:

https://www.google.com/search?q=doctor+shortage#q=doctor+shortage&tbm=nws

[DIGGER]

Some doctors will probably just not take obamacare and medicare patients.   Maybe they will just take patients that have private insurance or cash.    I don't know, just trying to reason this all out .

at Big Bend National Park a couple yrs ago I met an older gentleman from England.     I asked him what Socialized medicine was like, what was good and what was bad.     He said if you have a life threatening problem, like a heart attack that at the hospital they would get right to you.    If it was non threatening you had to wait about 3 months to get a doctors appointment......or......go to a private doctor and pay for it with personal insurance or cash.    If you needed surgery or a treatment of some kind you had to line it out about 3 months ahead.......or pay for it yourself at a private doctor.  His overall opinion was not bad,  just that you have to be willing to wait to get things done.

[Serk]

Sometimes ya' have the choice of laughing or crying... I choose to laugh...

Remy: Obamacare Video Contest Song

[Jeff K]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

umm we are broke. or aren't we borrowing 40+ cents of every dollar spent?

As I understand, as of today every dollar spent the rest of this year is borrowed money.

[musclehead]

With you guys in so much of an uproar over false information I think I know what's best to do.  I'm gonna buy some stock in kleenex, and call y'all a waaaaambulance.

The Facts
First of all, there are four parts to Medicare: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage — private plans for parts A and B), and Part D (prescription drug plans).
When asked for evidence of Medicare going broke, a Romney spokesman pointed us to news articles about the latest Medicare trustees report, showing that the Part A trust fund would be exhausted by 2024.
So, in other words, we are not talking about all of Medicare, just the part that covers hospital visits, hospice care, nursing facilities and the like. Part B, which involves seeing a doctor, is paid out of general funds and premiums.
Moreover, though the fund would be "depleted," it would NOT be "penniless" or "broke." That is because the government could still cover 87 percent of estimated expenses in 2024 — and 67 percent in 2050. So, yes, there would be a shortfall, but it doesn't mean that the fund is bankrupt.
There are various ways that Congress could deal with this problem. Already, in the Obama health care law, a surtax was added that would hit wealthy Americans, which extended the "insolvency" date by 12 years. . (This is why Biden can claim that repeal of the health care law would make Medicare go "bankrupt" sooner.)  Congress has also moved some functions from Part A to Part B to extend the life of the fund, in which was basically a book-keeping maneuver.
It's also important to remember that the Part A fund has from its inception been on the brink of going "broke." Page 4 of a useful report by the Congressional Research Service, titled "Medicare: History of Insolvency Projections," shows that in 1970 it was due to go "broke" in 1972.

Your dad had to go a whole 10 miles to a rehab center.  Oh my gosh!  The horror!  All due to a law that didn't even take effect yet?  Amazing.  You know in England your dad would have to see the cashier upon arrival at the doctor.  In order to be reimbursed for travel expenses of getting to and from his health care.  Thats the function of the cashier over there.  They pay far less for their healthcare and they have better outcomes.  Tell me more about how we "have the best health care system in the world".

umm we are broke. or aren't we borrowing 40+ cents of every dollar spent?

As I understand, as of today every dollar spent the rest of this year is borrowed money.

oh well, thats ok then  as long as china has money to loan