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Why Kennedy was killed

Started by Robert, Sun 27, Oct 2013, 19:44:43

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Robert

No Congress, no President has been strong enough to stand up to the foreign-controlled Federal Reserve Bank. Yet there is a catch - one that President Kennedy recognized before he was slain - the original deal in 1913 creating the Federal Reserve Bank had a simple backout clause. The investors loaned the United States Government $1 billion. And the backout clause allows the United States to buy out the system for that $1 billion. If the Federal Reserve Bank were demolished and the Congress of the United States took control of the currency, as required in the Constitution, the National Debt would virtually end overnight, and the need for more taxes and even the income tax, itself. Thomas Jefferson was concise in his early warning to the American nation, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
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Kennedy was trying to go back into the silver standard and the first thing Johnson did on the plane to assume power before the pres was dead was repeal this act. We could alter the course of the US O care wouldn't be a issue taxes wouldn't be a issue all the current issues would pretty much be gone.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Oss

stay out of convertibles Robert 
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

donaldcc

Quote from: Oss on Sun 27, Oct 2013, 19:52:16
stay out of convertibles Robert 

  agree. what the heck did you copy and paste this from?

  whatever it was, don't go there again.

Don

fudgie

A Jackson was prez we had no debt.


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And we welcome all you sheep...

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RP#62

I only know what I've read, but I was under the impression it was a foreign relations issue.  JFK pissed off the wrong Cubans and RFK pissed off the wrong Italians.

-RP
 

Robert

#5
In 1971, the US completely abandoned the gold standard. The US defaulted on its promise to foreign central banks that paper dollars could be redeemed in gold. The original default on the dollar really occurred in 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created, allowing the Federal Reserve to print more Federal Reserve Notes than physical gold was in the US Treasury. Alternatively, the default occurred in 1933 when President Roosevelt said that US citizens could no longer redeem their paper dollars for gold and that US citizens were not allowed to own gold.

The Hunt brothers were the sons of a wealthy oil billionaire. They started investing in silver as a hedge against inflation. When they started buying silver, it was still illegal to own gold. They chose silver as their inflation hedge.

Central banks have huge reserves of gold. The world's central banks confiscated the world's gold supply in 1933. Since the default on the dollar, central banks have been slowly selling off their gold reserves to keep the price down. Central banks also own some silver, but not as much as they own gold. The price of gold and silver are used as a benchmark for the devaluation of fiat money. It is important to make a gold and silver investment look bad. This makes fiat money look good.

It was important to bankrupt the Hunt brothers. People who speculate in gold or silver are betting against fiat money. Bankrupting the Hunt brothers made the dollar look strong in comparison. When the price of silver crashed, it created the false impression that the dollar had appreciated in value.

Cornering a commodities market is only immoral/illegal in the context of negative real interest rates combined with defective margin rules that mark your position to market. In a truly free market, a corner is not profitable. Other investments would always be more attractive. Buying up the last bit of commodity to get a complete corner would be prohibitively expense. At some point, you'd be investing a lot of capital in a commodity that would just be sitting in a warehouse. It is *ONLY* state manipulation of the market that makes a commodity corner possible. Instead of fixing the defects in the monetary system, the government declares it illegal to attempt a corner.

http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2008/02/hunt-brothers-silver-corner.html


THE STORY OF
JONATHAN MAY
Jonathan May attempted to free us from the shackles of the Federal Reserve by
creating an alternate banking system with instruments backed by land, raw
materials, mineral deposits, oil, coal, timber, and other wilderness holdings.
Jonathan aided Governor Connolly and the Hunt brothers in their effort to
corner the silver market. The silver would have been used to create a "Bank of
Texas" issue of "real" money. This would have destroyed the Federal Reserve
had the Hunts been successful. When the world bankers realized what was
happening, they destroyed Connolly, the Hunt brothers, Jonathan May, and
Texas.
The federal Reserve entrapped Mr. May by intentionally routing his credit
instruments through the Federal Reserve, against the terms clearly stated
upon those instruments, instead of through Mr. May's alternate system.
Jonathan May was illegally arrested, illegally tried, and illegally imprisoned
in the Federal Prison at Terre Haute, Indiana. The world power structure has
stolen Mr. May's idea, which will be used as the banking system of the New
World Order and is known as the World Conservation Bank. Jonathan has
served four years of a fifteen-year sentence.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Oss

so are you saying those bullets were only meant for Connolly?
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

Mobile Mayor

Without a doubt, it is all about the money.  Consider this:  The U.S. is hundreds of billions of dollars in debt to China, among others.  When the housing(ponzi)scam hit, the Chinese economy took one hell of a blow, as did other markets that were pumping the monkey on the housing stampede.  Everyone was going to get rich! Poor(er) nations and their rich investors were going to profit from the taking of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.  Everyone was going to get rich, just as they did during the .com internet speculation of the mid to late '90's.  Our jobs,, our homes,, our industry, are nothing other than an element which can be manipulated by the new order, for the sake of the order.  I once, in the past was looking at apples on display in the local Super Wally World, and was about to buy some... Until I saw a label that said "product of China".  I live in south central Pennsylvania, where you can get some of the best locally grown apples that you can get anywhere.  Our local fruit growers are being beaten down on a yearly basis by international interests that feel that they can justify shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of apples, and apple concentrate from countries such as china, and various south american countries.  Some of our fruit growers were in danger of bankruptcy, and had to sell some of their holdings.  Guess whom the land was being sold to.   The mega developers who are or were part of the money making machine.   I PITCHED THE CHINESE APPLE INTO THE DISPLAY, SPLATTERING IT AND SEVERAL OTHERS WHICH WERE IN THE IMPACT AREA, AND LOUDLY ANNOUNCED, that I did not appreciate the crap that wally world was passing on to us, and that I did not feel that wally world gave a damn about local producers or the well being of it's customers.  Security and management showed up, but I would not back down.  I said that wally world was was being disloyal to the people by introducing sub standard produce to consumers.  Enough other shoppers saw this and were in obvious agreement,  that security and management backed down and wrote the whole thing off as a minor problem.  END OF RANT.  IT IS TIME TO STAND UP, AND TAKE BACK WHAT WE HAD!  If not for the greatest generation,my parents, many interests that are presently trying to take down the United States would be a footnote in history.

alph

I am an odd person.

I don't have a "love" of material things the way some people do.  I could never "kill" someone for any "thing" and it floors me when I think that many people can and do.  it seems to me that the more you want something, the harder it is to get it.  to kill a president because he wants to free the people from enslaving debt?  to me that's just ludicrous, but, then again, people have done some amazing things.....
Promote world peace, ban all religion.

Ride Safe, Ride Often!!  :cooldude:

Patrick

This is actually the third time we have had a Fed. The 2 previous were shut down after the war debts were paid. The current one was setup in secret and should have been shut down years ago. The recessions/depression would not have lasted as long as they have/did if it had been.

musclehead

weird! a chinese apple in walmart :uglystupid2:

not saying I don't believe you but that's a hell of a long way for produce to go and stay 'fresh'

I always look to see where the produce I'm buying is coming from, I hauled some of it in my time....

(don't buy eurofresh tomatoes, they are hot house, tasteless, and nasty)
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

Chaosandconfusion

Quote from: alph on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 08:29:04
I am an odd person.

I don't have a "love" of material things the way some people do.  I could never "kill" someone for any "thing" and it floors me when I think that many people can and do.  it seems to me that the more you want something, the harder it is to get it.  to kill a president because he wants to free the people from enslaving debt?  to me that's just ludicrous, but, then again, people have done some amazing things.....

When they say its not about the money, then you know, its about the money.


Ride Long and contemplate

BF

Quote from: Robert on Sun 27, Oct 2013, 21:00:37
In 1971, the US completely abandoned the gold standard.

In 1971, the only things I was concerned with was girls, cars, bikes and Led Zeppelin.   :angel:
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



tonyfan70

Quote from: BF on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:14:40
Quote from: Robert on Sun 27, Oct 2013, 21:00:37
In 1971, the US completely abandoned the gold standard.

In 1971, the only things I was concerned with was girls, cars, bikes and Led Zeppelin.   :angel:

Today, the only things I was concerned with was girls, cars, bikes and Led Zeppelin.   :angel:

I fixed it for me. In 1971 I was, well, 1.

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Robert

#14
On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed by President John Fitzgerald Kennedy with the intention to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. This matter has been exhaustively researched by the Christian Common Law Institute through the Federal Register and Library of Congress, and the Institute has conclude that President Kennedy's Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid. Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued.

When John Fitzgerald Kennedy, author of Profiles in Courage, signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically to the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -- money -- without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury" [the full text is displayed below]. This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held therein. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. Although $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated, they were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated.

Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy's attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11,110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm

It has always made me wonder we are the producers the bankers charge interest to represent the US so much so that we are in real debt. Congress has the right to print money so whats the problem to do this?
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

BF

I don't know if any of that is true, however, I wouldn't discount it. 

What I do believe, is that the worlds banks are the ones that actually pull the strings of what we think are governments. 
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to