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obama and democrats tax increases. thank you low information voter

Started by 98valk, Mon 28, Oct 2013, 09:26:07

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98valk

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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

musclehead

most of us do realize that when we patronize a business we pay part of the tax burden that business has.

more tax = higher cost to consumers

the options to businesses are limited to remain viable and profitable. lower costs or raise prices and that's about it.
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

Patrick

I find it pretty obvious that there are more low information voters than well informed voters. It shows every day.

czuch

An uninformed voter is more dangerous than an armed psycho.
Aot of guys with burn marks,gnarly scars and funny twitches ask why I spend so much on safety gear

Serk

Didn't you get your Obamacare talking point memo? Higher taxes is really a reduction in taxes. Decrease of choice is an increase of choice. Lower quality of health means higher quality of health. Loss of freedom is an increase of freedom. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



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musclehead

Quote from: Serk on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 11:13:18
Didn't you get your Obamacare talking point memo? Higher taxes is really a reduction in taxes. Decrease of choice is an increase of choice. Lower quality of health means higher quality of health. Loss of freedom is an increase of freedom. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. We have always been at war with Eastasia.



:D :D left is right, right is wrong, up is down.  :D :D

welcome to bizarro world :2funny:
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

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But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

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Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

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Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

You can either agree or disagree.

Disagree and you show your morals and standards are as scuzzy as the liar in chief.

As to your head hurting. Take an Aleve.

.

Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:06:26
Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

You can either agree or disagree.

Disagree and you show your morals and standards are as scuzzy as the liar in chief.

As to your head hurting. Take an Aleve.

Britman, that is definitely uncalled for.

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Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

Here's some information for you.

Fast & Furious
Amnesty for illegal law breakers
SEAL Team 6
Obamacare would save the avg family $2500 per year
Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs
Obamacare web site-cronyism
NSA acting as Obama enforcers
17 Trillion in debt
Lies about Benghazi
Voter fraud
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during govt shutdown
Blocking veterans from seeing their own memorials
Allowing illegals on mall during govt shutdown
Shutting down 'The Peoples House' tours
We can keep our insurance if we like it
We can keep our doctors if we like them
Military not getting their votes counted
Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood with arms and
money
DOJ spying on the free press
Not securing our borders
Spying on Americans on American soil with drones
SOLYNDRA
Cash for clunkers
IRS targeting conservatives
IRS targeting the Tea Party
Millions losing health care coverage
Increasing welfare rolls
Increasing disability rolls
Countless party's
Countless exorbitant vacations
Releasing illegal's from prison
Unconstitutional recess appointment
NO budget for 5 years
Clapper lying to congress
Holder lying to congress
Failing to prosecute the New Black Panther
Reading our e-mail
War on women
Promoting race war
War between makers and takers
A123 Systems

Agree or disagree I don't give a damn.

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Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:10:28
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:06:26
Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

You can either agree or disagree.

Disagree and you show your morals and standards are as scuzzy as the liar in chief.

As to your head hurting. Take an Aleve.

Britman, that is definitely uncalled for.


Why is it SO DIFFICULT to communicate with some???

Please clarify what is uncalled for?


Calling the president a liar? It's true.

Take an Aleve? That would help your hurting head.

.

Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:14:58
Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

Here's some information for you.

Fast & Furious
Amnesty for illegal law breakers
SEAL Team 6
Obamacare would save the avg family $2500 per year
Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs
Obamacare web site-cronyism
NSA acting as Obama enforcers
17 Trillion in debt
Lies about Benghazi
Voter fraud
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during govt shutdown
Blocking veterans from seeing their own memorials
Allowing illegals on mall during govt shutdown
Shutting down 'The Peoples House' tours
We can keep our insurance if we like it
We can keep our doctors if we like them
Military not getting their votes counted
Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood with arms and
money
DOJ spying on the free press
Not securing our borders
Spying on Americans on American soil with drones
SOLYNDRA
Cash for clunkers
IRS targeting conservatives
IRS targeting the Tea Party
Millions losing health care coverage
Increasing welfare rolls
Increasing disability rolls
Countless party's
Countless exorbitant vacations
Releasing illegal's from prison
Unconstitutional recess appointment
NO budget for 5 years
Clapper lying to congress
Holder lying to congress
Failing to prosecute the New Black Panther
Reading our e-mail
War on women
Promoting race war
War between makers and takers
A123 Systems

Agree or disagree I don't give a damn.

I'm not getting into a tit for tat with you regarding politics. I'm sure we agree on some points and disagree on others but the line you drew in the sand regarding my morals and character as measured against someone else you obviously don't agree with tells me that when it comes to politics you are a much more unpleasant person than I care to spend time with. At no point have I attacked you, your character, your morals, or anything else about you. And at no point will I because we are done.

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Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:21:03
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:14:58
Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

Here's some information for you.

Fast & Furious
Amnesty for illegal law breakers
SEAL Team 6
Obamacare would save the avg family $2500 per year
Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs
Obamacare web site-cronyism
NSA acting as Obama enforcers
17 Trillion in debt
Lies about Benghazi
Voter fraud
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during govt shutdown
Blocking veterans from seeing their own memorials
Allowing illegals on mall during govt shutdown
Shutting down 'The Peoples House' tours
We can keep our insurance if we like it
We can keep our doctors if we like them
Military not getting their votes counted
Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood with arms and
money
DOJ spying on the free press
Not securing our borders
Spying on Americans on American soil with drones
SOLYNDRA
Cash for clunkers
IRS targeting conservatives
IRS targeting the Tea Party
Millions losing health care coverage
Increasing welfare rolls
Increasing disability rolls
Countless party's
Countless exorbitant vacations
Releasing illegal's from prison
Unconstitutional recess appointment
NO budget for 5 years
Clapper lying to congress
Holder lying to congress
Failing to prosecute the New Black Panther
Reading our e-mail
War on women
Promoting race war
War between makers and takers
A123 Systems

Agree or disagree I don't give a damn.

I'm not getting into a tit for tat with you regarding politics. I'm sure we agree on some points and disagree on others but the line you drew in the sand regarding my morals and character as measured against someone else you obviously don't agree with tells me that when it comes to politics you are a much more unpleasant person than I care to spend time with. At no point have I attacked you, your character, your morals, or anything else about you. And at no point will I because we are done.

So you disagree the liar in chief is a consumate liar?

Proves my point.

Thanks.

.

Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:23:02

So you disagree the liar in chief is a consumate liar?

Proves my point.

Thanks.

I haven't said what I do or don't agree with, Britman. You have made a very large assumption and only an assumption. Which proves MY point-at least as much to me as your point is proven to you. Whether anyone else is buying this BS from either of us is entirely up to them.

musclehead

can we disagree without becoming disagreeable?

Shadow Dragon has been a gentleman in the discussion thus far, I have racked my memory to try and think of a personal attack that he is guilty of.
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

BF

Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:14:58
Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:54:35
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 12:17:58
But, but, but the liar in chief always proclaims he IS the friend of the middle class.

He has their best interests at heart.

He IS trying to help the economy to help them and on and onand on and on  and on and on and on and on ad nauseum.

Okay, now I'm confused. If I don't agree with you am I a low-information voter or did I have plenty of information that was intentionally misleading? If I disagree with you then  obviously (by your reasoning) I am incorrect and that I can get my mind around. But to have availed myself of a barrage of misleading information and come to an incorrect conclusion because I was lied to while simultaneously availing myself of little to no information because I am a low information voter is making my head hurt.  :2funny:

Here's some information for you.

Fast & Furious
Amnesty for illegal law breakers
SEAL Team 6
Obamacare would save the avg family $2500 per year
Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs
Obamacare web site-cronyism
NSA acting as Obama enforcers
17 Trillion in debt
Lies about Benghazi
Voter fraud
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester
Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during govt shutdown
Blocking veterans from seeing their own memorials
Allowing illegals on mall during govt shutdown
Shutting down 'The Peoples House' tours
We can keep our insurance if we like it
We can keep our doctors if we like them
Military not getting their votes counted
Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood with arms and
money
DOJ spying on the free press
Not securing our borders
Spying on Americans on American soil with drones
SOLYNDRA
Cash for clunkers
IRS targeting conservatives
IRS targeting the Tea Party
Millions losing health care coverage
Increasing welfare rolls
Increasing disability rolls
Countless party's
Countless exorbitant vacations
Releasing illegal's from prison
Unconstitutional recess appointment
NO budget for 5 years
Clapper lying to congress
Holder lying to congress
Failing to prosecute the New Black Panther
Reading our e-mail
War on women
Promoting race war
War between makers and takers
A123 Systems

Agree or disagree I don't give a damn.

And don't forget "vote for revenge". 

I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



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Quote from: musclehead on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 13:31:41
can we disagree without becoming disagreeable?

Shadow Dragon has been a gentleman in the discussion thus far, I have racked my memory to try and think of a personal attack that he is guilty of.

Ooooooooooookkkkkkkkk.

Sulks off into a corner.

Psychotic Bovine

Quote from: Serk on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 11:13:18
Didn't you get your Obamacare talking point memo? Higher taxes is really a reduction in taxes. Decrease of choice is an increase of choice. Lower quality of health means higher quality of health. Loss of freedom is an increase of freedom. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. We have always been at war with Eastasia.



Careful!  You might get hauled into the Ministry of Love and end up in room 101.
"I aim to misbehave."

Willow

Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 14:09:50
Sulks off into a corner.

Properly executed.

SD, I read your entire post.  It reminded me of something said to me by a woman to whom I was once married.

"Your problem, Michael,"  (She called me by my middle name.) "Is that you think you're always right.'

"Of course I do, dear, " I replied.  "If I thought I was wrong I'd change my mind."

I'm sure most of us believe that everyone who disagrees with us is wrong.  Some of us are right and some of us are not.  Depending upon the subject, the associations change.   ;)

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Quote from: Willow on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 16:43:02
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 14:09:50
Sulks off into a corner.

Properly executed.

SD, I read your entire post.  It reminded me of something said to me by a woman to whom I was once married.

"Your problem, Michael,"  (She called me by my middle name.) "Is that you think you're always right.'

"Of course I do, dear, " I replied.  "If I thought I was wrong I'd change my mind."

I'm sure most of us believe that everyone who disagrees with us is wrong.  Some of us are right and some of us are not.  Depending upon the subject, the associations change.   ;)

Well said, Willow. I'm going to remember that so I can use it myself.  ;D

Willow

Quote from: ShadowDragon on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 16:45:35
Well said, Willow. I'm going to remember that so I can use it myself.  ;D

I do need you to know she divorced me very soon after that.

Oh, you mean the other thing?  I have no earthly idea where that came from.   :)

Moonshot_1

Quote from: Willow on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 16:43:02
Quote from: Britman on Mon 28, Oct 2013, 14:09:50
Sulks off into a corner.

Properly executed.

SD, I read your entire post.  It reminded me of something said to me by a woman to whom I was once married.

"Your problem, Michael,"  (She called me by my middle name.) "Is that you think you're always right.'

"Of course I do, dear, " I replied.  "If I thought I was wrong I'd change my mind."

I'm sure most of us believe that everyone who disagrees with us is wrong.  Some of us are right and some of us are not.  Depending upon the subject, the associations change.   ;)

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