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Ohio death row inmate: Doctor couldn't find veins....

Started by Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005, Fri 01, Nov 2013, 15:29:33

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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

I've got a suggestion .... Use the big end of a baseball bat on him then take the nasty end and beat his brains out.






COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A prison doctor couldn't find veins in the arms of a death row inmate during a pre-execution checkup, the inmate said Friday by video in rare court testimony.

Condemned child killer Ronald Phillips said the doctor could only find a vein on his right hand following an examination Oct. 18 at the medical center at Chillicothe Correctional Institution south of Columbus.

"I guess the Lord hid my veins from them," Phillips said, referring to a comment he made that day after the checkup ended.

Phillips, 40, testified under questioning by his attorneys that the doctor said he was not part of the state's lethal injection process when asked to do the checks. A prison nurse also participated.

Phillips said he had a fear of needles dating from childhood when he said his parents would sell drugs and let addicts shoot up in their kitchen in a tough Akron neighborhood.

Phillips, wearing glasses and a white prison shirt over a black T-shirt, testified by video hookup from death row for more than an hour. He is scheduled to die Nov. 14 for raping and killing Sheila Marie Evans, the 3-year-old daughter of his girlfriend, in 1993 in Akron.

Phillips testified as part of a lawsuit brought by his attorneys to delay his execution while they gather evidence against the state's new execution policy, which includes a never-tried, two-drug injection process.

The Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction announced the new policy last month and said Monday it would use that process, a combination of a sedative and painkiller.

Phillips' attorneys say the department's announcements came too close to the execution date to allow a meaningful challenge. The state says nothing is substantially different about the new system.

Judge Gregory Frost originally granted Phillips permission to testify in person, then switched to the video testimony when it was clear courtroom technology could handle the unusual arrangement. There are no recent examples of Ohio death row inmates testifying in person or by video in federal court cases.

The hearing Friday began by focusing on the state's decision to allow the prisons director or death house warden to delegate responsibility for changes in the execution process. That could include any deviation from the policy, down to paperwork documenting a particular step.

Ohio has walked away from that promise with the new policies, Allen Bohnert, an attorney for Phillips, told the judge.

"Close enough for government work is not acceptable in applying this death penalty protocol," Bohnert said.

An attorney for the state said Ohio is committed to carrying out the execution in a humane, dignified and constitutional manner and understands that commitment.

"The state will do what the state says it will do," said Christopher Conomy, an assistant Ohio attorney general.

Phillips' attorneys are also challenging the state's new policy for the lethal drugs it will use.

The state's first choice is a specialty dose of pentobarbital mixed by a compounding pharmacy. If that can't be obtained — as in the case of Phillips' execution — the state will use the two-drug method to put Phillips to death.

Phillips' lawyers argue in court filings that the two drugs could cause severe side effects, including painful vomiting.

The drugs Ohio is proposing to use on Phillips will cause him to stop breathing within a few minutes, an anesthesiologist said in a statement Thursday as part of a filing by the state in support of the new method.

Irreversible brain and heart damage will follow and the inmate will die a few minutes later, according to Dr. Mark Dershwitz, a University of Massachusetts anesthesiologist.

The drugs are midazolam, a sedative, and hydromorphone, a painkiller.



I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

musclehead

child killers, molesters and rapists need to have a more medieval method of capital pushiment in my view.....
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Valker

I've always advocated that the death penalty should be carried out in the same manner as the convict's victim(s) died..
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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

Quote from: Valker on Fri 01, Nov 2013, 16:02:14
I've always advocated that the death penalty should be carried out in the same manner as the convict's victim(s) died..
That's what I'm screamin'... Use the big end of the baseball bat on him then take the nasty end and beat his brains out with it.... That little girl was 3 years old  :'(


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

fudgie

The drugs are midazolam, a sedative, and hydromorphone, a painkiller.

Wow, thats all?  :o crap, we carry 'better' stuff then that on our trucks! We have stuff that stops the heart, for only a few sec hopefully, and stuff that will completely knock out your respiratory drive so you will not breathe.

We use midazolam for seizures.

I fig they would use harder stuff to kill a inmate. But then that would be to cruel.  :uglystupid2:



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Quote from: musclehead on Fri 01, Nov 2013, 15:46:40
child killers, molesters and rapists need to have a more medieval method of capital pushiment in my view.....

+ 1 on that. 
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Skinhead

Put him in general population, they'll find a vein.

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Patrick

We certainly can't put someone to death with a drug that could cause vomiting or brain damage !  Geeez, what are they thinking !
What ever happened to a good ole drawing and quartering or even a well publicized hanging in the public square ?
This is America and these things should be done right.

A 3 year old little girl, how does someone rape a 3 year old girl. Joe's ball bat should be shoved so far up that guys butt that he ends up choking on it.

Moonshot_1

guillotine. On PBS. The ratings would be phenomenal. Enhance the deterrent effect.

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old2soon

Rope Pistol Rifle Knife Sword Push him out of a helicopter from a 1000' up. Let a bull dozer run over him. Couple concrete blocks around his neck with a rope dump him in the lake. Or put him in general population like some one else suggested and make damn sure they ALL know what he did and how old that little girl was. Oh-big air bubble introduced into an artery. Shove a hand grenade up his ass and pull the pin. This piece of work deserves zero sympathy. RIDE SAFE.
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Thulsa Doom

Allow the little girls family the opportunity to choose the method and carry out his execution. No doubt they've suffered much and need closure.
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6jugzz

I am sure 30 days in the electric chair would do it!!! :cooldude:
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cookiedough

I'd hate to waste a precious bullet now that they are scarce, but the mother or father of that killer should be allowed to pull the trigger if they desire.
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Gavin_Sons

Public hanging at the town square. I believe that would stop over half the crimes if criminals see someone hang. Our system has gotten too soft. If you convicted of a crime you go to the hanging block in 24 hours.

fudgie

Quote from: Gavin_Sons on Sat 02, Nov 2013, 06:36:01
Public hanging at the town square. I believe that would stop over half the crimes if criminals see someone hang. Our system has gotten too soft. If you convicted of a crime you go to the hanging block in 24 hours.

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Quote from: Gavin_Sons on Sat 02, Nov 2013, 06:36:01
Public hanging at the town square. I believe that would stop over half the crimes if criminals see someone hang. Our system has gotten too soft. If you convicted of a crime you go to the hanging block in 24 hours.

Yup. You get folks who rob, steal, rape and murder with total abandon and when arrested they face a warm bed, air conditioning in summer, heating in the winter, three good meals a day, free health care and hang out with their friends.

Scary prospect for the criminal element to be sure. ???
(Extreme sarcasm font) I don't know why that level of deterrent fails to work. (Extreme sarcasm font)
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da prez

  You folks are all to cruel! An electric chair on trickle charge.
  Nail his tallywacker to a gas soaked log , light it on fire and give him a very dull razor blade before the electric chair tho!

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Xtracho

I have never favored the electric chair....give me electric bleachers anyday.

And capital punishment as a deterrent? Perhaps... as a secondary benefit....but the key word here is "punishment." Murder someone deliberately and, as far as I am concerned, you have forfeited your privilege to continue breathing the same air as I do.

I'm sure our liberal colleagues would favor something more along the lines of giving them better libraries than our kids have in school and rehabilitating them as productive members of society.
Mark

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