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Any rumor to the truth?

Started by Thunnar, Mon 11, Nov 2013, 04:34:16

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Thunnar

Sorry, just too lazy to do a search of old posts on the subject.  The truth is the Honda Valkyrie is one classic motorcycle.  Does anyone know of any rumors that Honda would ever consider an "Anniversay Re-Issue" of this mechanical marvel?

I'm almost sure my 98 Tourer has a soul because I find myself talking to "her" on a regular basis.
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Patrick

I kinda hope not. I keep hoping the Valk becomes the classic I think it will and increase in price. I would think a re-issuance would hurt that.

Serk

I'm pretty sure at this point they've scrapped/re-used the tooling, and the factory itself has been shutdown. Financially all indications are the Valkyrie was a failure, so I don't see a lot of incentive for them to go through the massive re-tooling to re-start production on a bike that wasn't that popular, for better or for worse.

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Didn't they recently release the CB1100 remake?   Ya never know.....
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alph

it's a good possibility that Honda would reintroduce the Valkyrie.  heck, chevy reintroduced the NOVA!!  although, it was exactly like my old Toyota  ;D

I was thinking the other day what people think when they check out our cycles and they see it's a Honda, then they go to their Honda dealer and ask about wanting to buy a Valkyrie, what the dealer thinks.....
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solo1

While the Valkyrie was a failure as far as how many were sold, it was a huge success for reasons that we all know, especially when customizing.

I think that it's very doubtful that it will ever come back. Honda very seldom has ever reintroduced a model, and then only briefly.  The new 1100F classic might be an exception but that's doubtful.

On the other hand Kaw and Yammy have kept low production models like the VMax, KLR650, and the Concours around.  I would think that the KLR has seen a surge in production as it's one great Adventure tourer and is much cheaper than BMW offerings in the same class.

The Suzuki has reintroduced the Vstrom DL1000, we'll see how that goes.

Thunnar

If the "never comin back" crowd is right then the value shoul eventually climb.  But if it did make a comeback . . . I just hope it would look the same.  Not like the T-Bird that Ford modernized into oblivion.
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cookiedough

highly doubtful it will happen since most Honda engineers nowadays are too young to remember the bike from the late 90's.  Most designs are going all plastic tupperware or even aluminum to reduce weight whether cycles or vehicles. 

I also agree our bikes might not climb in price, but be very similar to the 80's honda magna's which I also owned.  I bought my 1984 magna in 1989 used for 1500 bucks got an excellent deal on it snatched it up ASAP and sold it in 1997 nearly 10 years of owning it for same 1500 price tag.  If I would've kept it in good shape, that same honda magna today still fetches near 2 grand, a slight increase in price from 1989 or 1997. 

The issue is same as for older ATV's kept in good shape.  The price of the new ATV's or cycles are becoming wickedly expensive keeps going up and up and up therefore the pricing of good used cycles/ATV's are holding their value over a longer period of time.

I fully expect my 8K purchase price 2001 Valkyrie I/S to maintain at least 7K in resale for many years to come if still in good shape and all and probably never fall below 6K in resale pricing ever even with 80K+ miles on it.  You can't find a good used bigger ATV or full dresser cycle for much under 6K nowadays since the price of new cycles are topping 20K and above while ATV's new are 11 grand on up for a similar design model only say 5 years old still worth 6 grand. 

Patrick

I'm just hoping that the Valk is still in the family a century from now and worth what a 100 year old bike is worth.

solo1

If the Valk was lighter and had reverse, I would still have it but, then again, the world is full of IF'S!  :)

cma1

i have heard dealers refer to them as "the 57 chevy of the bike world" i don't know if they will ever re release it, but i buy all the mechanical parts i can get my hands on, i have two of them  but one is triked so from the seat back its car parts, OMG i ride the darkside -- twice, one on both sides !!

saddlesore

Are there any estimates on how many Valkyries are still out and about?   If they don't redo them and the numbers keep going down the Valkyrie  will become extinct, just like us, fellow dinosaurs. ;)
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alph

Quote from: solo1 on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 13:45:56
If the Valk was lighter and had reverse, I would still have it but, then again, the world is full of IF'S!  :)

can't help with the weight issue, but you can get the reverse set up off of a ('98 I think) Goldwing and get it to work on the Valk.  I've also been told that all Valkyrie transmissions come with the "reverse" gear in the transmission. (that's what I've been told from a fellow Valk rider that is putting in the reverse mechanism when he trikes it out) 
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Quote from: alph on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 15:19:12
Quote from: solo1 on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 13:45:56
If the Valk was lighter and had reverse, I would still have it but, then again, the world is full of IF'S!  :)

can't help with the weight issue, but you can get the reverse set up off of a ('98 I think) Goldwing and get it to work on the Valk.  I've also been told that all Valkyrie transmissions come with the "reverse" gear in the transmission. (that's what I've been told from a fellow Valk rider that is putting in the reverse mechanism when he trikes it out)  

I believe that the Valkyrie version that they sold in asia had reverse.  

Honda Valkyrie with reverse
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Rams

Quote from: Thunnar on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 10:52:16
If the "never comin back" crowd is right then the value shoul eventually climb.  But if it did make a comeback . . . I just hope it would look the same.  Not like the T-Bird that Ford modernized into oblivion.

Value?   Increase?   I personally doubt it but, what do I know.   Not much.   But, if a re-production were to be brought to us, as long as they stayed true to the classic power cruiser styling, hooked up a bigger flat six and gave us the option to personalize it, I'd be headed to the bank.   Wouldn't be trading my Fat Lady in but, would borrow a boat load of money to get a newer version.   

But, I sincerely doubt I need to worry about that.   I doubt it's gonna happen.   It's all about dollars and has little to do with motorcycling.
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There's a ton of riders (myself included) that would be interested in a 1832cc flat 6 fat lady  ;D

But Honda has brought out nothing but unimaginative blah since they cancelled the original Valkyrie and then the VTX 1800 that also didn't sell enough to warrant continuation.

OnaWingandaPrayer

  Dont forget the Rune . another low seller .  But honestly I couldnt stand the look of it . I felt it was more of a what if we could,   design exercise .

Willow

It was a good business decision by Honda.

If I understand it correctly they were hoping to cut into some of the cruiser market owned by the competition.  What they discovered was that in a large part they cut into the market of their own more expensive wing.

Valkyries didn't actually sell as well as they had hoped.  Although you and I find them to be among the finest motorcycles ever produced, not enough riders were willing to own one.  Years after they were discontinued you could still find them in the crates at some Honda dealers.

It was a good business decision for Honda to discontinue the line, but wasn't it a great motorcycle while they made it?   :cooldude:

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Quote from: Willow on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 21:06:31
It was a good business decision by Honda.

If I understand it correctly they were hoping to cut into some of the cruiser market owned by the competition.  What they discovered was that in a large part they cut into the market of their own more expensive wing.

Valkyries didn't actually sell as well as they had hoped.  Although you and I find them to be among the finest motorcycles ever produced, not enough riders were willing to own one.  Years after they were discontinued you could still find them in the crates at some Honda dealers.

It was a good business decision for Honda to discontinue the line, but wasn't it a great motorcycle while they made it?   :cooldude:
Yeah I guess we are lucky they made as many as they did.

cma1

with two of them, both with less than 50K on the clock, and me at S/S age, i'm good till i croak, or get raptured.

Thunnar

Quote from: cma1 on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 21:22:43
i'm good till i croak, or get raptured.

Would that then entail hernia surgery?  :D
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MP

Quote from: Willow on Mon 11, Nov 2013, 21:06:31
It was a good business decision by Honda.

If I understand it correctly they were hoping to cut into some of the cruiser market owned by the competition.  What they discovered was that in a large part they cut into the market of their own more expensive wing.

Valkyries didn't actually sell as well as they had hoped.  Although you and I find them to be among the finest motorcycles ever produced, not enough riders were willing to own one.  Years after they were discontinued you could still find them in the crates at some Honda dealers.

It was a good business decision for Honda to discontinue the line, but wasn't it a great motorcycle while they made it?   :cooldude:

And, it is STILL a great motorcycle, long AFTER they quit making it!

MP

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