He won't stop until we are unarmed

[Serk]

Just answer this, say something like this was in the process of happening. Would you as an American, let the government march in your home and take away your guns peacefully?

Nope, I wouldn't.

But I also will fight tooth and nail at the earliest signs that there are those who want to move in that direction, to do whatever I can to put a halt to it BEFORE it gets to that point.

Are you saying we should just sit back and wait until it comes to the point that violence is the only way to defend our few remaining rights while they're kicking in our doors?

[Reb]

Just answer this, say something like this was in the process of happening. Would you as an American, let the government march in your home and take away your guns peacefully?

Nope, I wouldn't.

But I also will fight tooth and nail at the earliest signs that there are those who want to move in that direction, to do whatever I can to put a halt to it BEFORE it gets to that point.

Are you saying we should just sit back and wait until it comes to the point that violence is the only way to defend our few remaining rights while they're kicking in our doors?

No, I would do the same damn thing you would, so wouldn't everyone else in the US (at least I hope they would), which is why I cannot for see the government ever trying to attempt doing such. The US has the largest free standing militia in the world.

[hotglue #43]

No, I would do the same damn thing you would, so wouldn't everyone else in the US (at least I hope they would), which is why I cannot for see the government ever trying to attempt doing such. The US has the largest free standing militia in the world.

Hope we can keep it that way!.  Would hate to have to depend on the government to watch after our rights.

[Serk]

Just answer this, say something like this was in the process of happening. Would you as an American, let the government march in your home and take away your guns peacefully?

Nope, I wouldn't.

But I also will fight tooth and nail at the earliest signs that there are those who want to move in that direction, to do whatever I can to put a halt to it BEFORE it gets to that point.

Are you saying we should just sit back and wait until it comes to the point that violence is the only way to defend our few remaining rights while they're kicking in our doors?

No, I would do the same damn thing you would, so wouldn't everyone else in the US (at least I hope they would), which is why I cannot for see the government ever trying to attempt doing such. The US has the largest free standing militia in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

[Reb]

All that I was wanting to get at during this debacle is that  US citizens out number any standing army, even our own branches combined. The government cannot and will not take it to that level, it would be suicide. Why the hell would they even want to? Everything about this doomsday, going to turn the American people into slaves crap pisses me off... It makes me feel like folks honestly are scared of the government. If that offended anyone I will apologize in person to you.

To think something like that is even remotely plausible is ridiculous IMHO.

[john]

                       " I could go on and on. But you keep telling yourself it's all make believe. Who is the real idiot? "             

      some people consider this bum a hero            
          they are wasted on the kool-aid       
              and I mean brain dead ...     
                he is not an american ... he loves not america
                  he is muslim brotherhood in the white house
                     are you crap'in me ... thirty million illegal immigrants is
                        not a work force ...  they are vote swingers  ...
                             its a  f u c k I n g  invasion ....
                           
                                      W A K E  U P !

[Serk]

To think something like that is even remotely plausible is ridiculous IMHO.

To think it's not remotely plausible is, unfortunately, very naive. It's not only possible, in the long run it's highly probable if it's not fought very resolutely at the tiniest infraction NOW, before it gets to the tipping point.

So that's why I kick and scream at the tiniest little motion towards tyranny, to stop it, or at least do what I can to stop it, before it gets a chance to get too much of a foot hold.

But of course... they'll never take our guns...

Oh wait...



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/it-begins-new-yorks-bloomberg-sending-out-gun-confiscation-notices/

[Reb]

Looks like ruff crap paper to use

[Clark]

Looks like ruff crap paper to use

oh Rebby.. I 4got to tell you NO BLOVIATING.. whats your REAL  semi intelligent response to that??

[Reb]

Looks like ruff crap paper to use

oh Rebby.. I 4got to tell you NO BLOVIATING.. whats your REAL  semi intelligent response to that??

How long is the assault rifle band going to last after Obama is out of office?

I understand your aggression towards it and I don't blame you, but they still aren't knocking down your doors and taking your guns

My actual intelligent answer? Don't buy registered guns bud.

[Serk]

It makes me feel like folks honestly are scared of the government.

My actual intelligent answer? Don't buy registered guns bud.

If you're not "scared of the government" then why would you feel the need to only buy "unregistered" firearms?

[Clark]

It makes me feel like folks honestly are scared of the government.

My actual intelligent answer? Don't buy registered guns bud.

If you're not "scared of the government" then why would you feel the need to only but "unregistered" firearms?

DOH!!!!!!!!

[donaldcc]

. . . BLOVIATING . . .

 Clark you keep using this word.  It's like a synonym, homonym, antonym, BSym or what?  

[Clark]

-UCK I don't know.. heard it on FOX...just like the sound of it

[donaldcc]

   

[Serk]

[john]

           liberal babble

           Bloviation is a style of empty, pompous political speech particularly associated with Ohio due to the term's popularization by United States President Warren G. Harding, who described it as "the art of speaking for as long as the occasion warrants, and saying nothing".[1] The verb "to bloviate" is the act of creating bloviation. In terms of its etymology, according to one source, the word is a "compound of blow, in its sense of 'to boast' (also in another typical Americanism, blowhard), with a mock-Latin ending to give it the self-important stature that's implicit in its meaning."[2]

        its what they do ... they run their mouth ... r u n   t h e i r   m o u t h   

[donaldcc]

  Serk, I am chuckling.   

[Willow]

I've observed that both sides of this argument tend to speak in extremes that are largely unsupportable and probably not specifically true.

I wonder how the people of Australia and England behaved as it happened to them?

I personally don't think it will happen quickly.  I think it will happen and along the lines of the frog in the water in the pot experiment.   really don't think as many of us who claim to will fight to the death over our guns.  They didn't in Australia, did they?

[The Anvil]

Serk, I was thinking that very thing this morning. Also, that it's being used as if the person using it just discovered it and thought it sounded cool. "Hmm, that word will make me sound smart." That person might also have very little self awareness because that person is kind of doing the exact same thing. Though we could probably all be accused of doing it when backed into a corner.



Willow, I will be the first to tell you that I am not willing to sacrifice myself for many causes. It's not about me either. I have a wife, two young children and a disabled mother who depend on me. I am not about to take arms against my government over things like drone spying, over taxation etc. I also believe that violence of any kind is an absolute last resort to solving conflict. Despite my fondness for firearms and shooting I am no hawk. But here's the thing; if they actually come to take my guns by force then that means things have gotten so bad in America that push has come to shove and shove I must. Please keep in mind also that I am far less trigger happy and extreme in mindset than most gun owners you will meet. But I am well armed and I am prepared.

With that said, I do not believe this is ever going to happen, at least not that way. If our guns are taken it will be through slow erosion of rights through legislation. I don't think it's going to be the Fed either. I think it's the vastly overrated State's Rights that we have to worry about. Check this out:

http://www.thebangswitch.com/katrina-gun-confiscation-my-experience/

That's from a VERY pro-gun website (the blog run by the Military Arms Channel's founder). The writer's credentials have been verified.

[GiG]

Trust me, I would love to sign Chicago over to Michigan. 

Reb - You owe me an apology!
It's bad enough as it is that the enire mass of humanity from Chicago rudely shoves their way into MI every weekend - but we sure as hell don't want 'em, or their politics, here permanently!     

[Xtracho]

Wait....Vastly overrated...and in the same breath we have to worry about it? The disarming of this country, if it occurs, will be orchestrated by the federal government. Colorado, for example. State legislators there found out quick and fast that anti-gun legislation from the state level brings consequences to career politicians. Arms manufacturers and supporting ancillary businesses, along with the people, stood up and forced a recall on 2 anti-gun politicians and forced another to resign in order to preserve a liberal majority in the Senate.

Further, stereotyping "most gun owners" as "trigger happy" is, once again, another mantra spouted by the anti-gun crowd.

And Willow's "frog in the pot" analogy is applicable.

[ptgb]

Reb - You owe me an apology!
It's bad enough as it is that the enire mass of humanity from Chicago rudely shoves their way into MI every weekend - but we sure as hell don't want 'em, or their politics, here permanently!     

Yeah, you guys have Detroit.... so you have enough to worry about 

[Clark]

           liberal babble

           Bloviation is a style of empty, pompous political speech particularly associated with Ohio due to the term's popularization by United States President Warren G. Harding, who described it as "the art of speaking for as long as the occasion warrants, and saying nothing".[1] The verb "to bloviate" is the act of creating bloviation. In terms of its etymology, according to one source, the word is a "compound of blow, in its sense of 'to boast' (also in another typical Americanism, blowhard), with a mock-Latin ending to give it the self-important stature that's implicit in its meaning."[2]

        its what they do ... they run their mouth ... r u n   t h e i r   m o u t h   

WHAT HE SAID

[Clark]

Serk, I was thinking that very thing this morning. Also, that it's being used as if the person using it just discovered it and thought it sounded cool. "Hmm, that word will make me sound smart." That person might also have very little self awareness because that person is kind of doing the exact same thing. Though we could probably all be accused of doing it when backed into a corner.



Willow, I will be the first to tell you that I am not willing to sacrifice myself for many causes. It's not about me either. I have a wife, two young children and a disabled mother who depend on me. I am not about to take arms against my government over things like drone spying, over taxation etc. I also believe that violence of any kind is an absolute last resort to solving conflict. Despite my fondness for firearms and shooting I am no hawk. But here's the thing; if they actually come to take my guns by force then that means things have gotten so bad in America that push has come to shove and shove I must. Please keep in mind also that I am far less trigger happy and extreme in mindset than most gun owners you will meet. But I am well armed and I am prepared.

With that said, I do not believe this is ever going to happen, at least not that way. If our guns are taken it will be through slow erosion of rights through legislation. I don't think it's going to be the Fed either. I think it's the vastly overrated State's Rights that we have to worry about. Check this out:

http://www.thebangswitch.com/katrina-gun-confiscation-my-experience/

That's from a VERY pro-gun website (the blog run by the Military Arms Channel's founder). The writer's credentials have been verified.

TIME OUT ADVIL.. I am not certain you have the right to enter into another debate without putting closure to  you last WEAKS debate.. I STILL haven't seen any backup to your claims..and I DID NOTICEwith the BOMBBARDEMENT of evidence against your claim towards the end of the argument..you just slipped away into the darkness

[Reb]

It makes me feel like folks honestly are scared of the government.

My actual intelligent answer? Don't buy registered guns bud.

If you're not "scared of the government" then why would you feel the need to only buy "unregistered" firearms?

I don't "only" buy unregistered firearms. I have a few hand me down on the shelf (I figured most folks do.) The assault rifle band will be the same as in 1994, It will fade away again. Clinton didn't march into your homes and take anything away. The same will happen with Obama. I may be wrong, but isn't Dianne dumbass Feinstein and Carolyn McCarthy, the one that pushed for the band renewal in 2004, and 2013. Is it possible to permanently enact a band? probably so. Will it happen? probably not. The NRA will not let it happen. Sleep easy, it's the typical political parties that bounce this crap back and forth as leaders change in the oval office.

All gun band enactments started after some sort of mass domestic shooting. It's a political game to show the do gooders of America that the democratic party is doing something... it's a kiss-ass game. Has anyone on this board had to turn in a weapon to law enforcements yet? If you have please shed some light on the subject. I would actually like to know how you went through the procedures to have to do so.



The last thing I'm scared of is the government taking away any firearm of mine.

[Reb]

Trust me, I would love to sign Chicago over to Michigan. 

Reb - You owe me an apology!
It's bad enough as it is that the enire mass of humanity from Chicago rudely shoves their way into MI every weekend - but we sure as hell don't want 'em, or their politics, here permanently!     

My apologize Gig!

[Clark]

YO Rebby  if ya wanna see a "band"  watch the ohio state Michigan game this weekend.. ohio state has the BEST  DAMN BAND in the nation.. 

[9Ball]

YO Rebby  if ya wanna see a "band"  watch the ohio state Michigan game this weekend.. ohio state has the BEST  DAMN BAND in the nation.. 

I was wondering when someone would point that out...

[GiG]

Uh, Clarkee? Time to Wake up, Buddy...
That game was LAST week. ohio won by 1 point. - Merry Christmas! You got a gift "fumble" turnover for TD, not to mention the 2 point stocking stuffer, (M stupid call)...
Shoulda been a different result, but don't forget, our band taught your band how to spell the script, DUH

[Clark]

Uh, Clarkee? Time to Wake up, Buddy...
That game was LAST week. ohio won by 1 point. - Merry Christmas! You got a gift "fumble" turnover for TD, not to mention the 2 point stocking stuffer, (M stupid call)...
Shoulda been a different result, but don't forget, our band taught your band how to spell the script, DUH

GOOD CATCH GIGI..I MEANT mich state

[GiG]

True enough.
So, how DID Cleveland's bankruptcy work out? Not trying to be funny, seriously.
See what the past 60 yrs of that type of cronyism gets ya??? Detroit's been politically fupped duck for at least that long...
Hey, They don't call Cleveland the "Mistake by-the Lake" for nothing! 

[Clark]

dunno..I left that God forsaken place in 1970..

[ptgb]

Yeah, you guys have Detroit.... so you have enough to worry about

True enough.
So, how DID Cleveland's bankruptcy work out? Not trying to be funny, seriously.
See what the past 60 yrs of that type of cronyism gets ya??? Detroit's been politically fupped duck for at least that long...
Hey, They don't call Cleveland the "Mistake by-the Lake" for nothing!  

Oh, no argument here.... at least Detroit never had their river catch on fire. I mean, how messed up does water have to be to catch on fire?

Detroiters do it the right way, they catch houses on fire.

P.S. - I'm not from Cleveland, I live in Youngstown. Youngstown makes Cleveland look like the French Rivera.  

[.]

I MAY be wrong. but.. I cant recall ANY thread that has shed a negative light on the potus where you haven't stuck up for him advil..me thinks the koolaid has had an effect.. not tryin to start an argument here.. just an observation

I'm not sticking up for the President. I'm sticking up for calming the f**k down and trying to see both sides of an argument.

If you'd like an observation here's one for you; around here you cannot disagree with a line of thinking without being labeled a "liberal" or an "Obama lover" or some other epithet. I toe no line with regard to ideology and while there's a lot I don't like about this guy, I don't think he's Satan incarnate either.  

And I had nothing to offer in his "defense" over his handling of the Syria mess.

P.S. I can't remember any thread that hasn't shed a negative light on the President.

A quick read of just a few of the political threads posted here will show that Anvil is 100 percent correct. I've never gotten from any post that Anvil is liberal in his political leanings but he has certainly been called so for not toeing the line around here.

[The Anvil]

Serk, I was thinking that very thing this morning. Also, that it's being used as if the person using it just discovered it and thought it sounded cool. "Hmm, that word will make me sound smart." That person might also have very little self awareness because that person is kind of doing the exact same thing. Though we could probably all be accused of doing it when backed into a corner.



Willow, I will be the first to tell you that I am not willing to sacrifice myself for many causes. It's not about me either. I have a wife, two young children and a disabled mother who depend on me. I am not about to take arms against my government over things like drone spying, over taxation etc. I also believe that violence of any kind is an absolute last resort to solving conflict. Despite my fondness for firearms and shooting I am no hawk. But here's the thing; if they actually come to take my guns by force then that means things have gotten so bad in America that push has come to shove and shove I must. Please keep in mind also that I am far less trigger happy and extreme in mindset than most gun owners you will meet. But I am well armed and I am prepared.

With that said, I do not believe this is ever going to happen, at least not that way. If our guns are taken it will be through slow erosion of rights through legislation. I don't think it's going to be the Fed either. I think it's the vastly overrated State's Rights that we have to worry about. Check this out:

http://www.thebangswitch.com/katrina-gun-confiscation-my-experience/

That's from a VERY pro-gun website (the blog run by the Military Arms Channel's founder). The writer's credentials have been verified.

TIME OUT ADVIL.. I am not certain you have the right to enter into another debate without putting closure to  you last WEAKS debate.. I STILL haven't seen any backup to your claims..and I DID NOTICEwith the BOMBBARDEMENT of evidence against your claim towards the end of the argument..you just slipped away into the darkness

If you don't have to prove that you're not driving around in your windowless van with a comic book and a Hershey bar on the end of a fishing line then I don't have to prove my points either. I'm not explaining that whole "burden of proof" thing to you again. Now go back to your regularly scheduled day of casing elementary schools. 

[Clark]

WEAK

[The Anvil]

WEAK

Well then add more NyQuil to the punch and your odds may improve. 

[Trynt]

[/quote]

A quick read of just a few of the political threads posted here will show that Anvil is 100 percent correct. I've never gotten from any post that Anvil is liberal in his political leanings but he has certainly been called so for not toeing the line around here.

[/quote]

Surely you jest!

[john]

               "And Willow's "frog in the pot" analogy is applicable."     
                  how we is go'in down