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Started by Patrick, Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47

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Patrick

Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

old2soon

Keep uppermost in yer noggin dat da gubmint ONLY wants to help!!  :roll: RIDE SAFE.
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Quote from: Patrick on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47
Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

There were 4 security consultants that testified on capital hill that they wouldn't use it at all.........
Stanley "Steamer"

"Ride Hard or Stay Home"


bassman

Quote from: Stanley Steamer on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 08:57:09
Quote from: Patrick on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47
Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

There were 4 security consultants that testified on capital hill that they wouldn't use it at all.........

And one of them stated his company could have built a SECURE and functioning site for the G'ment for $5-10M.....and a fifth and separate computer expert agreed his company could have done the same thing for $5-10M also.....

Patrick

Quote from: Stanley Steamer on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 08:57:09
Quote from: Patrick on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47
Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

There were 4 security consultants that testified on capital hill that they wouldn't use it at all.........



I think John McAfee was the first to talk against this complete mess.

Serk

Quote from: bassman on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 09:20:06
Quote from: Stanley Steamer on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 08:57:09
Quote from: Patrick on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47
Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

There were 4 security consultants that testified on capital hill that they wouldn't use it at all.........

And one of them stated his company could have built a SECURE and functioning site for the G'ment for $5-10M.....and a fifth and separate computer expert agreed his company could have done the same thing for $5-10M also.....

But HIS company isn't run by ole' college buddies of Moochelle's... So those companies aren't qualified to do anything for the current regime...
Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



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Patrick

Quote from: Serk on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 10:41:25
Quote from: bassman on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 09:20:06
Quote from: Stanley Steamer on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 08:57:09
Quote from: Patrick on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 07:53:47
Website security ? Its laughable. California's exchange has just been caught giving [or selling] personal info to private firms.
Not only is the federal site not secure, at least one state is now giving out personal info. Isn't this nice !
I feel for the people that have to deal with this.

There were 4 security consultants that testified on capital hill that they wouldn't use it at all.........

And one of them stated his company could have built a SECURE and functioning site for the G'ment for $5-10M.....and a fifth and separate computer expert agreed his company could have done the same thing for $5-10M also.....

But HIS company isn't run by ole' college buddies of Moochelle's... So those companies aren't qualified to do anything for the current regime...




Just another instance of the news media not doing its job and playing nerf ball with this administration. I've not heard one word of 'moochelle's' incompetent best friend being given this job without any other companies being allowed bids.
I watched part of obama's last interview, you know, the one by chris matthews. All I heard were nerf questions, nothing of substance.

john

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G-Man

Quote from: old2soon on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 08:12:40
Keep uppermost in yer noggin dat da gubmint ONLY wants to help!!  :roll: RIDE SAFE.

That's right, they meant well.  It's all about intention and not about experience and results.  When you speak out about the ACA, you hit the brick wall of "But something had to be done and the other guys didn't do it".  That makes it all OK.  The other guy didn't do anything, so we changed the timing of all the traffic lights and completely messed up rush hour and cause hundreds to be late and at least 4 accidents each day.  But we meant well and everyone will just get used to it.   :uglystupid2:

98 T

That's right, they meant well.  It's all about intention and not about experience and results.  When you speak out about the ACA, you hit the brick wall of "But something had to be done and the other guys didn't do it".  That makes it all OK.  The other guy didn't do anything, so we changed the timing of all the traffic lights and completely messed up rush hour and cause hundreds to be late and at least 4 accidents each day.  But we meant well and everyone will just get used to it.  

Gary, that's a pretty accurate way of looking at it... intentions, not actual results is part of what went into the ACA bill... that and an insane amount of  government control over our lives were the driving factors.... I don't think actual health CARE was ever the prime goal..  CONTROL was the main idea.

As they said in Jurassic Park III..." some of the most horrific things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"...

God help us all
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Clark

what say you ADVIL????  we need words of WISDOM here

Daddie O

Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Clark

Quote from: Daddie O on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 18:45:07

if yer talkin hate for lies and bull$hit it flows quite well thru me.. if yer claimin racial hate BS then yer wrong

Clark

my first choice for our next president is col. Allen West

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wiggydotcom

Quote from: Clark on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 19:25:29
my first choice for our next president is col. Allen West

We could do MUCH worse than Allen West. I'd vote for him over anybody from the Left.
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Serk

Quote from: wiggydotcom on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 21:31:40
Quote from: Clark on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 19:25:29
my first choice for our next president is col. Allen West

We could do MUCH worse than Allen West. I'd vote for him over anybody from the Left.


But you see, if you support a black conservative like Colonel West, Herman Cain, Dr. Ben Carson or any of the others, that just PROVES you're racist against blacks... (Gotta love liberal logic...)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/29/janeane_garofalo_racist_republicans_support_herman_cain.html
Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



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MP

Now, Melissa Perry on MSNBC says the word "Obamacare" is racist, just like the N word!  Made up by rich old white men, to denigrate the black President.

They are desperate!

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

Daddie O

Desperate?  Let's see, dems control the Senate, the White House, and have appointed and confirmed two new young Supreme Court Justices.  Yeah that sounds like a horrible position to be in  :uglystupid2:

You must think Obama is the worst, most horrible, incompetent person to ever serve in governmental office.  His approval rating has dropped to the 40's.  How do people view the Republicans in Congress?  They have a 9% approval rating.  91% of Americans do not approve of Congress.  So lets see...the Republican would have to be 4 times as popular as they are now to even approach Obama's approval rating.  Even with a terrible ACA rollout Obama is 4 times as popular as Congress.

Col West?  You mean the guy forced to pay a fine and retire from the military to avoid court martial?  Please pick him as your nominee!  Pretty please!
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

G-Man

Quote from: MP on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 04:51:05
Now, Melissa Perry on MSNBC says the word "Obamacare" is racist, just like the N word!  Made up by rich old white men, to denigrate the black President.

They are desperate!

MP

But, but, but,....... during one of the debates, Romny called it Obamacare, caught himself and kind of nodded over towards Barry and he clearly stated that he didn't mind the ACA being called Obamacare.  He was perfectly OK with it.  Was he lying about it?  Not Barry!

You're right, they ARE desperate, ... to get out of the way of this derailing train.  There are many democrats whose seats are up in 11 months and they are all scared to be associated with this.  The very people they claim to help are the ones getting hurt the most.  Young, middle class Americans are gonna get raped to pay for the elderly, the poor, and the leeches.  A young guy who really should just be getting away with a catastrophic plan that covers emergencies now has to have a plan that covers everything.  To lower the premiums and co-pays the deductible is astronomical.  ON TOP OF ALSO HAVING TO PAY S.S., FICA, and medicare withholding taxes.
Most of these young folks are the ones who got what they voted for and are sinking into voters remorse. 

You'll have to pass it to see what's in it.   :uglystupid2:   

Serk

Quote from: G-Man on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 11:16:57
Young, middle class Americans are gonna get raped to pay for the elderly, the poor, and the leeches.  A young guy who really should just be getting away with a catastrophic plan that covers emergencies now has to have a plan that covers everything.  To lower the premiums and co-pays the deductible is astronomical. 

http://nypost.com/2013/12/07/the-medicaid-time-bomb/

And to make it even better, the young, healthy people that were supposed to line up like bleating sheep and take it on the chin (Among other places of their anatomy) to finance the old and sick, are staying away in droves...

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



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Clark

not to mention Barry had FAR MORE skeltons in HIS closet and got elected TWICE

Patrick

Desperate?  Let's see, dems control the Senate, the White House, and have appointed and confirmed two new young Supreme Court Justices.  Yeah that sounds like a horrible position to be in 
end quote


Holy Cow ! You've finally said something I agree with !  This is a horrible position we're in !
I think as you age and gain some more experience, you'll figure this life thing out. I like to be a glass half full kinda guy.  :)

MP

Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 09:35:29
Desperate?  Let's see, dems control the Senate, the White House, and have appointed and confirmed two new young Supreme Court Justices.  Yeah that sounds like a horrible position to be in  :uglystupid2:

You must think Obama is the worst, most horrible, incompetent person to ever serve in governmental office.  His approval rating has dropped to the 40's.  How do people view the Republicans in Congress?  They have a 9% approval rating.  91% of Americans do not approve of Congress.  So lets see...the Republican would have to be 4 times as popular as they are now to even approach Obama's approval rating.  Even with a terrible ACA rollout Obama is 4 times as popular as Congress.

Col West?  You mean the guy forced to pay a fine and retire from the military to avoid court martial?  Please pick him as your nominee!  Pretty please!

Yeah, the same Colonel who stuck a gun in a terrorists face, demanding that he tell him where the roadside bombs were planted, so that US troops did not get blown up.

I see you are more worried about scaring a terrorist, than keeping our troops safe.  Good for you.  We know who you stand with.  I, and a lot of us here, will stand with Col. West, and protecting our troops.

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

Clark

Quote from: MP on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 12:44:39
Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 09:35:29
Desperate?  Let's see, dems control the Senate, the White House, and have appointed and confirmed two new young Supreme Court Justices.  Yeah that sounds like a horrible position to be in  :uglystupid2:

You must think Obama is the worst, most horrible, incompetent person to ever serve in governmental office.  His approval rating has dropped to the 40's.  How do people view the Republicans in Congress?  They have a 9% approval rating.  91% of Americans do not approve of Congress.  So lets see...the Republican would have to be 4 times as popular as they are now to even approach Obama's approval rating.  Even with a terrible ACA rollout Obama is 4 times as popular as Congress.

Col West?  You mean the guy forced to pay a fine and retire from the military to avoid court martial?  Please pick him as your nominee!  Pretty please!

Yeah, the same Colonel who stuck a gun in a terrorists face, demanding that he tell him where the roadside bombs were planted, so that US troops did not get blown up.

I see you are more worried about scaring a terrorist, than keeping our troops safe.  Good for you.  We know who you stand with.  I, and a lot of us here, will stand with Col. West, and protecting our troops.

MP
x1,000,000,000 :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:

old2soon

Proud to stand with an Officer or Enlisted man that has his troops best interests at heart. Been my Extreme Honor to have served with both at one time or another BOT NOT always the case. RIDE SAFE.
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wiggydotcom

Quote from: Serk on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 21:43:40
Quote from: wiggydotcom on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 21:31:40
Quote from: Clark on Sun 08, Dec 2013, 19:25:29
my first choice for our next president is col. Allen West

We could do MUCH worse than Allen West. I'd vote for him over anybody from the Left.


But you see, if you support a black conservative like Colonel West, Herman Cain, Dr. Ben Carson or any of the others, that just PROVES you're racist against blacks... (Gotta love liberal logic...)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/29/janeane_garofalo_racist_republicans_support_herman_cain.html


Actually, Serk, I'll use the quote someone else came up with to prove I'm not racist. "I dislike the job Joe Biden is doing also!"
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PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL.  

Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 09:35:29

You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.




Quote from: MP on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 04:51:05
Now, Melissa Perry on MSNBC says the word "Obamacare" is racist, just like the N word!  Made up by rich old white men, to denigrate the black President.

They are desperate!

MP


Are we gonna have to start calling it the O word now?   :roll:   :2funny:
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I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
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I might not give the answer that you want me to



Patrick

Didn't someone here get mad because we called it obamacare ? Seems to me someone did, so, we changed to be more politically correct and probably to appease someone. No matter how often some prove a point, some just won't believe it.

Jess from VA

ZEROCARE seems to be an accurate name.   Other than it may imply that it's cheap.

..

Why do we pander to the willingly ignorant trolls?

Patrick

Quote from: Britman on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 16:35:50
Why do we pander to the willingly ignorant trolls?


I don't know. It is best to just ignore them, but, we cave.

Clark

Quote from: Britman on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 16:35:50
Why do we pander to the willingly ignorant trolls?
cause we like to tellem how STUPID they are??? ;D

Patrick

Quote from: Clark on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 16:44:53
Quote from: Britman on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 16:35:50
Why do we pander to the willingly ignorant trolls?
cause we like to tellem how STUPID they are??? ;D



How many stupid people know they are ?  :(

Daddie O

Irony:  The denizens of the VRCC that lack intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense, calling others ignorant and stupid.

Yes you Britman and Clark.  ;D
Light moves faster than sound.  That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

..

Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:10:21
Irony:  The denizens of the VRCC that lack intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense, calling others ignorant and stupid.

Yes you Britman and Clark.  ;D

Hoist by your own petard!

Ah, the simplicity of it.

The pot calling the perfectly shiny kettle black.

Reading comprehension is such a gift.

I get attacked once more by one of those who profess to be so even minded.

Guess you're feeeling a little guilty about something  :D



jmann

Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:10:21
Irony:  The denizens of the VRCC that lack intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense, calling others ignorant and stupid.

Yes you Britman and Clark.  ;D

God I wish you hadn't bought a valkyrie.

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Quote from: jmann on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:24:51
Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:10:21
Irony:  The denizens of the VRCC that lack intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense, calling others ignorant and stupid.

Yes you Britman and Clark.  ;D

God I wish you hadn't bought a valkyrie.

Imagine how much more bitter one could be without a Valkyrie in ones life!

Xtracho

Quote from: jmann on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:24:51
Quote from: Daddie O on Mon 09, Dec 2013, 21:10:21
Irony:  The denizens of the VRCC that lack intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense, calling others ignorant and stupid.

Yes you Britman and Clark.  ;D


God I wish you hadn't bought a valkyrie.

Claims he owns a gun too...don't mean he knows how to use either one.
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