Oil addatives

[saddlesore]

   
  I was hearing positive reviews about Energy Release.  I bought some but in doing some more research it seems there are opposing views including that it can damage the engine.
  I know there is a lot of debate about the oil but I'm wondering about experiences with additives.

  The site for Energy Release.....
http://www.energyrelease.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.pbv.v1.tpl&product_id=52&category_id=7&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=48
 
 

[Jess Tolbirt]

if you have to add an additive to your oil, you are using the wrong oil..

[Joe Hummer]

Hey saddlesore,

Because our bikes have a wet clutch, you have to be REALLY careful about additives in the oil.  If it has ANY friction modifiers in it...you do not want to put it in.  You will be replacing the clutch shortly after running it. 

Joe

[Pepmyster]

That is a big debate for sure.  I use additives only for my small motors , ie. lawn mower, snow blower..  When I use them , they have to work hard then sit for a long time. I don't believe there is a right or wrong way to think about it.

[dreamaker]

The way I see it Honda makes some good products, why do you need additives.  You use additives when the engine is on it last legs.  Honda makes great engines and good oils to go with it, don't fix things that are not broke. Some people don't like the prices they pay for products, but the way I see it, you can pay a little up front or go cheap and pay a whole lot in the end.

[Big Al of Tennessee]

It most likely has an active ingredient called Molybdenum.

Slickest stuff on the planet.

After about 100 miles you will be replacing the clutch.

That is the stuff they put in car oils less than 10W40 to make your care last longer and

get better gas mileage.

Don't use it.

10w-40 anything would be better. The book says 8 thousand between oil changes and a filter

every other time. Anything better than this interval should make it last longer.

Snake Oil is sold everywhere, and this is another instance of Snake Oil. i.e. Look up Snake Oil.

[Clark]

from the demos I have seen, I do believe its a good product.. but NOT in a mc.with  in which the clutch gets lubed by the engine oil.. like Big Al said..DONT USE IT IT YER VALK!!!

[Robert]

I am in agreement with Al on this one more than likely Molybdenum, but it doesn't say that. No label to tell you what you are buying just the hype. Its a marketing ploy because there are many products that are out there already. I use liqui moly products and have for some time. Their moly products are really good I use them like others for engines, small engines and its especially good on rear ends and power steering units. It definitely would not be good on motorcycle wet clutches. Moly is what is recommended on the drive shafts of our bikes. I am not a big additive fan but I have really liked what I found in this kind of additive. But it doesn't replace a good oil it adds to it. In engines remember that the oil insulates metal to metal contact so moly or any additive is not really a silver bullet but when on starting its the thing that really helps. On ps units or rear ends oil is supposed to insulate but it does break down easier so the moly sits on the surface and helps in metal to metal contact. Some will say that moly smooths the surface fills in the cracks so everything works easier but that is not really verifiable. I have found when put in rear ends with a good rear oil it will actually improve mileage and rear temp. Nothing replaces a good oil but moly in the right oil will help preserve your engine and increase milage but will not extend oil life. I dont know how much that costs but you can buy Lubra Moly for about 12 dollars and that is about right for most of this kind of additive. I think Guard Dog also has a engine oil additive of moly so if you pay to much more than that you are lining someones pockets.

[saddlesore]

  Thanks for the replies.   I should have done more research first.  One of the sources that told me about this is a Valkyrie owner, the other a stealer.  NOT going in my  Valkyrie!